It's not. I remember reading same thing last time and it ended being wrong or it's not close. Guess we will see. Just 48 minutes more
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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2017 (Dec 11 - Dec 17)
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Yes, it is. Why would you compare it with other years or 3DS? Especially when it is a higher price than 3DS was........ That makes absolutely no sense........You have to look at the sales of a product for what it is in the time period that its released in.
3DS first December was the highest December ever for a platform. It wasn't supply constrained.
Never underestimate Mario under holidays.
Last year, Super Mario Maker 3DS did 315k in Week 51 (its debut week for around 160k).
Compare the price of the 2 and come back. Compare the difficulty of acquiring the parts for the Switch compared to the 3DS and come back. Compare the difference with 3DS being a handheld and Switch being a hybrid and come back. Compare 2017 to 2011 with regards to how mobile gaming has changed the landscape of gaming and come back.
No, the official Media Create numbers will arrive in 45-50 minutes.
Because historical context is important. There's only one week before Christmas every year. Of course sales should be higher in December than in for example August. The only reference we have is other Week 51s, i.e. previous years. Why would you compare it with the first year of the 3DS? Because that's also the first holiday of a Nintendo system that released around the same time of the year. Because the 3DS was supposed to be the next big thing for Japan at the time too.
yep always sucks we can never get the real demand for such occassions
imagine 1m sold in a week for japan
yes
SMM was at 700k while odyssey is over a million, smm also launched much later and has a bigger userbase to sell from, all these things affect how odyssey can top out at
people need their unhealthy dose of hate and arguing
compared to what? they are capping sales. been doing it for 9 months straight...trying to brush that off cause its not making the same other consoles that were not supply constrained is just looking for an excuse to undertalk it success.
say the guy overseeing all the context other than the final sales number. prices, era, competition, stock, awareness, etc etc etc
would this be their first Switch game or they've released something this year?
I never said 2011 was the only year to compare with. It's true that Week 51, 2011 was an amazing year, but we've seen comparisons with other years too (here's the list by Chris1964). The Switch is as expensive as a home console, like the Wii, which moved 279k units in 2006, but the Switch also is portable and (contrary to any older device since the SNES) the only flagship product Nintendo has on the market. That means that it has higher priority for Nintendo to get this thing into consumer's hands as previous devices. The stakes are higher. Since the Switch is supply constrained in Japan (not anymore in the US and Europe), it means the number we'll see today is 100% Nintendo's own responsibility. Noone else can be blamed. I think it's important to grow the install base to a level where the Switch is a no-brainer for Japanese developers, because that'll have a big effect on the western library of the system too.
Lack of serious competition on the hardware front doesn't mean Nintendo can relax, because there's still the software front that needs a boost. The supply problem in North America and Europe was solved in November. It's been 3 weeks now; it's about time they give Japan some more weight. I'll be happy with the rumoured 320k, but it's just a real shame that it isn't higher.
In a vacuum of course they are good numbers, but in context they are most definitely disappointing. If the console wasn't selling out then yeah, 260k would be a good number for such an expensive console, but it does sell out instantly still which means they could have sold quite a bit more than that if the supply was there, which is 100% a missed opportunity.
So yeah, it's a disappointment in the supply chain. If the number is 260k of course.
Oh they've had plenty so far, such as VOEZ, Kamiko, Koi DX, Deemo, etc!
There's Kamiko by Circle/Skipmore and a Dark Witch rhythm game by Circle/FHW iirc, maybe more.
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Apparently more, lol.
But comparing it to DS or 3DS or any past system is not comparing it in context............Different time, different price, different stock levels.
For the Japanese games market in 2017 260k in a week is absolutely massive, its actually insane.
I'm not even specifically talking about comparing it to those. This is the highest demand will be this whole year, and if they can only manage ~30% more stock than they shipped last week that would honestly be disappointing to me, when we know the number they could have sold is much, much higher.
We might be looking at less than 1M for the whole month, when it's likely they could have sold close to 2M if they had the stock. It's not gonna do any long term harm or anything, but it's disappointing for consumers who can't find a Switch and it's disappointing for publishers (what few there are) who want a bigger install base to buy more games around the holidays.
But hopefully the number is 320k, which would be better. Still obviously they could have sold more (true for any week really) but it would be a nicely sized increase to capitalize on the holiday demand.
That 70% increase at COMG For the game was but a warning... We love xenoLegs chronicles 2
And software publishers. Basically anyone involved with the Switch.
Yeah I said that a few words later haha
I guess it's possible that's for software numbers, but wouldn't the leaker know the hardware numbers are of much greater interest?
No publisher seems disappointed with Switch's install base...........Its fine if its disappointing to you, I would love 10 million billion sales in 3 hours as well, but people really need a dose of reality in this thread sometimes.
Picontier is still one of my most anticipated game of next year. If it's as sweet and good as Kamiko, but in adventure-like genre it's going to be glorious.
Like I said it's not that bad, it's just disappointing because we know it could've been better had Nintendo been more prepared. Publishers know this too. It's just a missed opportunity.
Again all of this assuming it's as low as the leaker seems to indicate.
Call EA.
The second shipment of Monster Hunter World PS4 Pros. xD
While it's better than nothing, I wouldn't call such a declining series a good indication of anything besides its decline.
in context is doing better than 3DS. higher recognition, better games, better price (rather than bleeding em money cause emergency price cut).
I never understood why people keep expecting the Switch to sell that much in Japan. Isn't it tracking to sell about 800k to 1m in december alone? That's pretty impressive, isn't it? Is the japanese console market that healthy that you can expect a 299 console to sell as much or even more than a cheaper portable?
Even if it isn't supply constrained, I think those numbers are pretty great. The Switch is beating the Wii U with less than 1 year in the market, I guess that's good enough.
Even if it isn't supply constrained, I think those numbers are pretty great. The Switch is beating the Wii U with less than 1 year in the market, I guess that's good enough.
Atelier on Switch will not be a good indicator of anything. This is the first main Atelier game EVER on a Nintendo platform. It is just the beginning.......Again, we will have to wait for the actual numbers, but 260k, supply constrained is a good result in Japan, even in December.
There will be a lot of games and series on Switch that in previous generations would stay PS exclusive. It's hard to use as an excuse. That's just the problem those developers are facing. While those developers are of course the one's to blame for their own mistakes (whether they could be prevented or not), the current hardware situation doesn't help at all.
And while Atelier may be a declining series, I meant to say that we can compare sales on Switch with sales on PS4 and especially Vita to get a better view of the Switch's current situation for used-to-be-PS-exclusive games.
Media Create:
Switch 269,684
PS4 50,662
New2DS LL 45,387
New3DS LL 27,947
PS4 Pro 16,595
Vita 14,041
2DS 6,992
Xbox One 687
New3DS 311
Wii U 98
PS3 40
Xbox One X 32
Mario: 209k
Yokai: 184k
Atlier: 21k (PS4, no other version charted)
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20171227091/
Switch 269,684
PS4 50,662
New2DS LL 45,387
New3DS LL 27,947
PS4 Pro 16,595
Vita 14,041
2DS 6,992
Xbox One 687
New3DS 311
Wii U 98
PS3 40
Xbox One X 32
Mario: 209k
Yokai: 184k
Atlier: 21k (PS4, no other version charted)
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20171227091/
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