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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2019 (Dec 09 - Dec 15)

ggx2ac

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Celine said:
So I'm compiling the million seller list based on shipment figure for the japanese market.
I'm just over done with the games over 3 million units.
A quick statistic about the games which shipped over 3 million units:

Nintendo (include Pokémon Co): 128.75M (30 games)
Rest (Square Enix, Capcom, Level 5): 54.17M (14 games)
Total: 182.92M (44 games)

Nintendo's share (sales-wise) is 70.39% of the total.

Note: Pokemon R/G/B and Pokemon G/S are excluded from the counting since Nintendo never gave their total shipment in Japan.
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As I said before, I found that MH3G for Wii U shipped 500k units as of March 2013 in the 2013 annual report.

Bruno MB found a platinum sellers page as of March 31, 2013 which shows that the 3DS version of MH3G sold 1.9 million units.



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December 2012 sales can't be found on the wayback machine.

Will this suffice?
 

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ggx2ac said:
As said before, I found that MH3G for Wii U shipped 500k units as of March 2013 in the 2013 annual report.

Bruno MB found a platinum sellers page as of March 31, 2013 which shows that the 3DS version of MH3G sold 1.9 million units.


December 2012 sales can't be found on the wayback machine.

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That's what I've found, I was hoping someone maybe had tracked in a spreadsheet quarter after quarter the figures in Capcom's Platinum page cause the figure as March 2013 include the western launch.
 
ggx2ac

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Celine said:
That's what I've found, I was hoping someone maybe had tracked in a spreadsheet quarter after quarter the figures in Capcom's Platinum page cause the figure as March 2013 include the western launch.
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I completely forgot that the 3DS version launched in the west.

Anyway, Bruno MB found a thread on the old forum and found that MH3G stayed at 1.6 million units as of December 2012 because Capcom did not combine the sales from the budget version to the other 3DS SKU back then.
 

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Dengeki Online Sales: Week 50, 2019 (Dec 09 - Dec 15)

01./00. [PS4] New Sakura Wars (Sega) {2019.12.12} - 145,293 / NEW
02./01. [NSW] Pokemon Sword (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 111,100 / 1,050,883
03./02. [NSW] Pokemon Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 72,965 / 712,823
04./08. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} - 46,136 / 375,703
05./03. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} - 46,085 / 383,005
06./05. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 (Sega) {2019.11.01} - 28,655 / 100,716
07./06. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} - 22,884 / 1,103,871
08./07. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} - 20,189 / 3,457,191
09./10. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.07.25} - 20,100 / 272,824
10./12. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} - 19,847 / 699,437
11./04. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield Double Pack (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 19,789 / 362,128
12./11. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} - 19,389 / 2,412,720
13./09. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} - 18,900 / 1,200,403
14./00. [PS4] Control (Marvelous) {2019.12.12} - 11,162 / NEW
15./18. [NSW] Disney Tsum Tsum Festival (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.10.10} - 11,133 / 93,115
16./14. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ (Level 5) {2019.12.05} - 10,560 / 20,821
17./30. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 10,305 / 3,136,901
18./21. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} - 6,726 / 752,847
19./20. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age S - Definitive Edition (Square Enix) {2019.09.27} - 6,068 / 467,721
20./23. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} - 6,011 / 413,882
21./13. [PS4] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 5,863 / 86,869
22./28. [NSW] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball (Konami) {2019.06.27} - 5,142 / 196,521
23./16. [NSW] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 5,103 / 59,480
24./26. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} - 5,037 / 1,880,427
25./33. [NSW] Fortnite: Darkfire Bundle (Epic Games) {2019.11.07} - 4,906 / 22,659
26./24. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 4,647 / 1,125,635
27./29. [NSW] Eiga Sumikko Gurashi: Tobidasu Ehon to Himitsu no Ko - Game de Asobou! Ehon no Sekai (Nippon Columbia) {2019.11.07} - 4,333 / 16,458
28./22. [PS4] Death Stranding (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.11.08} - 4,331 / 267,311
29./17. [PS4] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus) {2019.11.28} - 3,853 / 44,908
30./32. [NSW] Model Debut Nicola (FuRyu) {2019.11.01} - 3,806 / 14,451
31./38. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} - 3,505 / 794,516
32./25. [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.10.25} - 3,406 / 192,220
33./39. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Gakkou Seikatsu Hajimerun Desu (Nippon Columbia) {2019.07.18} - 3,194 / 13,511
34./00. [NSW] Samurai Shodown (SNK) {2019.12.12} - 3,075 / NEW
35./34. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town (Marvelous) {2019.10.17} - 3,050 / 109,621
36./15. [PS4] Citadel: Forged with Fire (Spike Chunsoft) {2019.12.05} - 2,907 / 11,569
37./31. [PS4] Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (Electronic Arts) {2019.11.15} - 2,873 / 51,814
38./43. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game (Sega) {2019.07.24} - 2,717 / 67,783
39./36. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (Nintendo) {2019.09.20} - 2,700 / 233,010
40./44. [NSW] FIFA 20 Legacy Edition (Electronic Arts) {2019.09.27} - 2,506 / 30,897
41./37. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition (Capcom) {2019.09.06} - 2,469 / 437,116
42./42. [NSW] Fortnite (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.12.13} - 2,361 / 60,750
43./45. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} - 2,122 / 905,755
44./40. [PS4] Persona 5 Royal (Atlus) {2019.10.31} - 1,863 / 240,639
45./54. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} - 1,767 / 109,339
46./53. [NSW] Ninja Box (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.09.26} - 1,661 / 18,165
47./49. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} - 1,642 / 189,779
48./19. [PS4] Onechanbara Origin (D3Publisher) {2019.12.05} - 1,633 / 7,380
49./48. [NSW] Fire Emblem: Three Houses (Nintendo) {2019.07.26} - 1,617 / 290,514
50./59. [NSW] Doraemon: Story of Seasons (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.06.13} - 1,617 / 108,556

Top 50

NSW - 39
PS4 - 11

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| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2019     | FY(%)   |
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| Switch| 635,824   | 72.6%    | 10,839,417  | 67.5%   |
| PS4   | 228,947   | 26.1%    | 4,642,517   | 28.9%   |
| 3DS   | 8,942     | 1.0%     | 365,185     | 2.3%    |
| Vita  | 2,014     | 0.2%     | 189,277     | 1.2%    |
| ETC   | 519       | 0.1%     | 27,262      | 0.2%    |
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| Total | 876,246   | 100.0%   | 16,063,658  | 100.0%  |
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HARDWARE
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| Model      | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2019     | FY(%)   |
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| Switch     | 156,100   | 60.5%    | 2,175,131   | 57.9%   |
| Switch Lite| 84,214    | 32.7%    | 871,667     | 23.2%   |
| PS4        | 11,202    | 4.3%     | 600,411     | 16.0%   |
| 3DS        | 5,778     | 2.2%     | 95,987      | 2.6%    |
| ETC        | 490       | 0.2%     | 5,970       | 0.2%    |
| Vita       | 56        | 0.0%     | 5,936       | 0.2%    |
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| Total      | 257,840   | 100.0%   | 3,755,102   | 100.0%  |
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Dengeki Online Sales: Week 49, 2019 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)
 
fiendcode

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Horii should take the opportunity with Dai and make that big budget DQ ARPG he's always wanted to.

Celine said:
I find amusing people parroting "Japan is handheld console country therefore any handheld console will sell exceptionally well" instead of thinking why Japan got such consideration in the past.
Studying history to predict the future is only helpful if you analyze the causes and the context in which they acted that brought a certain outcome.
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You'd think Vita's performance would've killed this narrative but I guess not.
 
Oregano

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fiendcode said:
Horii should take the opportunity with Dai and make that big budget DQ ARPG he's always wanted to.


You'd think Vita's performance would've killed this narrative but I guess not.
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To be fair it's still common to see people, both randoms and press/influencers, say stuff like "Vita sold well in Japan".
 
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KillerMan91 said:
you mean this console:?
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Japan is only place where it sold something.
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There's the fact that the PSP remained strong in Japan throughout its life (since it had appealing software for the market) whereas it cratered almost everywhere else after the first couple of years. The Vita selling like it did was, in addition to other factors (like smartphones), a direct result of the PSP's legacy.
 
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fiendcode said:
Bombing harder in the west doesn't mean it didn't disastrously underperform in Japan. Vita to PSP is the largest decline we've ever seen for a direct successor in the region from a major player. Even worse than N64 or PS3.
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Yeah by that logic the Wii U did decent in Japan since it cratered much much harder everywhere else.
 
ArkhamFantasy

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The vita did decent considering it had almost none of the big franchises that the other playstation systems got.

Wasnt freedom wars its biggest game other than minecraft? Maybe im forgetting.
 
KillerMan91

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fiendcode said:
Bombing harder in the west doesn't mean it didn't disastrously underperform in Japan. Vita to PSP is the largest decline we've ever seen for a direct successor in the region from a major player. Even worse than N64 or PS3.
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But it had even harder drops in US and Europe. Why was the drop in Japan lowest other than being handheld?

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Yeah by that logic the Wii U did decent in Japan since it cratered much much harder everywhere else.
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US was by decent margin biggest market for WiiU. That is opposite of Vita. in Europe it cratered harder than in other regions but before Switch Wii was only Nintendo home console selling somewhat well in Europe so it wasn't that surprising,
 
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KillerMan91 said:
But it had even harder drops in US and Europe. Why was the drop in Japan lowest other than being handheld?
US was by decent margin biggest market for WiiU. That is opposite of Vita. in Europe it cratered harder than in other regions but before Switch Wii was only Nintendo home console selling somewhat well in Europe so it wasn't that surprising,
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The drop from Wii to Wii U was also smaller in Japan than anywhere else. Your own argument's still working against you here.
 
Oregano

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ArkhamFantasy said:
The vita did decent considering it had almost none of the big franchises that the other playstation systems got.

Wasnt freedom wars its biggest game other than minecraft? Maybe im forgetting.
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I don't think Vita was missing many IPs from PSP, the obvious big ones being MonHun and Gran Turismo.
 
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KillerMan91 said:
But it had even harder drops in US and Europe. Why was the drop in Japan lowest other than being handheld?



US was by decent margin biggest market for WiiU. That is opposite of Vita. in Europe it cratered harder than in other regions but before Switch Wii was only Nintendo home console selling somewhat well in Europe so it wasn't that surprising,
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The drop from Wii to Wii U was also smaller in Japan than anywhere else. Your own argument's still working against you here.
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That's my point. The drop was more steep elsewhere than Japan, and even discounting Europe the drop in the Americas alone is massive. Had the Wii U dropped by a similar percent in Japan it would have ended fairly below 3 million.
 
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Vita didn't do that well in Japan, but it did better than other territories. It's basically a worse version of the Saturn in that regard. Sure Saturn got by the N64 in Japan but it was creamed by it in every other market and both were absolutely destroyed by the PlayStation.
 
MysticGon

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Everything about the PS Vita was expensive despite how big a leap in tech it was over PSP. Nintendo earned a lot of good will dropping the price of the 3DS 5 months after launch, even in the midst of a recession and while the country was recovering from disaster. Sony on the other hand kept the Vita it's same high launch price for 15 months. By the time Sony tried to stop the bleeding Capcom and Squeenix already had their million-sellers and that was all she wrote.

In that time Uncharted, Resistance, LBP and PS All-Stars all came out but... Lol

Sony was outgunned and out-maneuvered.
 
sfortunato

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Funny also how PSV got a pretty amazing launch line-up with more than 20 retail releases among which Uncharted, Minna no Golf, Ridge Racer, Disgaea, Dynasty Warriors, Kamaitachi no Yoru, Katamari, Dream C Club, Marvel Vs. Capcom plus new IPs from Square Enix and Konami like Lord of Apocalypse (remake of Lord of Arcana but still) and Army Corps of Hell.
 
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sfortunato said:
Funny also how PSV got a pretty amazing launch line-up with more than 20 retail releases among which Uncharted, Minna no Golf, Ridge Racer, Disgaea, Dynasty Warriors, Kamaitachi no Yoru, Katamari, Dream C Club, Marvel Vs. Capcom plus new IPs from Square Enix and Konami like Lord of Apocalypse (remake of Lord of Arcana but still) and Army Corps of Hell.
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I remember people singing the praises of the lineup when it was first revealed.
 

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This really puts it into perspective how much a launch line up means for the success of a console.
 
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Week 52, 2019 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)

{2019.12.23}
[3DS] Dragon Fang Z: The Rose & Dungeon of Time _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <RPG> (Toydea) (¥1.090)

[NSW] Jet Kave Adventure _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Circle Entertainment) (¥1.364)
[NSW] Mirror _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (SakuraGame) (¥909)
[NSW] Gunma's Ambition: You and me are Gunma _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ETC> (G-mode) (¥890)
____________

{2019.12.25}
[NSW] Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Atelier Dusk Trilogy: Deluxe Pack {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} # <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥13.800)
[NSW] Atelier Dusk Trilogy: Deluxe Pack {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} (Special Collection Box) <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥22.300)
[NSW] Atelier Dusk Trilogy {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥10.800)

[PS4] Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Atelier Dusk Trilogy: Deluxe Pack {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} # <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥13.800)
[PS4] Atelier Dusk Trilogy: Deluxe Pack {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} (Special Collection Box) <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥22.300)
[PS4] Atelier Dusk Trilogy {Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX \ Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX \ Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX} (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥10.800)
[PS4] Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition <Shadow of the Tomb Raider \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Forge \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Pillar \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Nightmare \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Price of Survival \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Serpent's Heart \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Grand Caiman \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Mother Protector> <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition <Shadow of the Tomb Raider \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Forge \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Pillar \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Nightmare \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Price of Survival \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Serpent's Heart \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Grand Caiman \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Mother Protector> (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800)

[XB1] Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition <Shadow of the Tomb Raider \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Forge \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Pillar \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Nightmare \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Price of Survival \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Serpent's Heart \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: The Grand Caiman \ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Mother Protector> _Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800)
[XB1] Natsuki Chronicles _Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Qute) (¥4.500)
____________

{2019.12.27}
[NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) (¥3.480)
[NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <HOB> (Nintendo) (¥2.680)
[NSW] Desire: Remaster Version _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Red Flagship) (¥1.800)
[NSW] Doggie Ninja Explosion! Strikers _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <SPT> (Toydea) (¥728)
[NSW] Arcade Archives: Vs. Balloon Fight _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Hamster) (¥762)

[XB1] The Clocker _Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (E-Home Entertainment) (¥1.363)
 
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ggx2ac said:
The PS4 outsold the Vita in Japan though.

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Worldwide:
PS4 = 125-130 million lifetime
Vita = 13-16 million (?)
Difference = 681% to 900%

Japan
PS4 = 9.5-10 million lifetime (?)
PSV = 5.86 million
Difference = 62% to 71%

The point still stand. (i know you was sarcastic but let's make things clear in case someone thought you was serius)
 

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KillerMan91 said:
But it had even harder drops in US and Europe. Why was the drop in Japan lowest other than being handheld?
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What a weird question. We know that PSV received decent support from Japanase publishers until recently, while US publishers including Sonys biggest Studios stopped supporting the system very early in its lifecycle. Without the Japanese support sales would have looked even worse in Japan.
 
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fiendcode said:
The drop from Wii to Wii U was also smaller in Japan than anywhere else. Your own argument's still working against you here.
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I mean yes because Wii was way more successful outside of Japan (I wonder why is that...). There was way more room to drop. I can't remember last console that had its sales skew as hard to Japan as Vita though.


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The PS4 outsold the Vita in Japan though.

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I mean yes with every third party game under the sun releasing on it. Compare the top selling games on both platforms.
 
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KillerMan91 said:
I mean yes because Wii was way more successful outside of Japan (I wonder why is that...). There was way more room to drop. I can't remember last console that had its sales skew as hard to Japan as Vita though.




I mean yes with every third party game under the sun releasing on it. Compare the top selling games on both platforms.
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Sadly you need more then just games on a home console in japan. Even if the ps4 had games like smash, Mario, splatoon and the other games Nintendo have released on wii u I couldn't see it selling over 14M. To get above that 20M mark it needs to be portable and have big games.
 
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Switch top 10 for next 4 weeks must be considered a real possibility. Everything turns around Switch these holidays.
 
ggx2ac

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KillerMan91 said:
I mean yes with every third party game under the sun releasing on it. Compare the top selling games on both platforms.
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This:
Celine said:
I find amusing people parroting "Japan is handheld console country therefore any handheld console will sell exceptionally well" instead of thinking why Japan got such consideration in the past.
Studying history to predict the future is only helpful if you analyze the causes and the context in which they acted that brought a certain outcome.
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Is still correct because the Vita didn't sell exceptionally well, the PSP sold 20 million units while the Vita has sold less than 6 million units in Japan, that's a 70% drop for lifetime sales.

You mention how PS4 had the best third party support compared to the Vita but you are actually bringing up points that support what is said in that quote from Celine.
 
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Expectations for Brain Training are very low. Price isn't high but there isn't much interest for it, from Nintendo or customers. Digital sales could be good since it's a small size game and even cheaper at eShop.
 
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KillerMan91 said:
I mean yes because Wii was way more successful outside of Japan (I wonder why is that...). There was way more room to drop. I can't remember last console that had its sales skew as hard to Japan as Vita though.
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PSP was also more successful outside Japan though. Last console that skewed as strong or stronger to Japan as Vita was probably the Saturn (over 50%). Skewing strongly towards Japan doesn't mean Vita didn't bomb in Japan though, both can be true.
 
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