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I'm not so sure, Octopath Traveler shipments were somewhere between 330 and 420k in Japan by March.
If LTD by now is close to 400k Tales won't have an easy fight.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2019 (Dec 16 - Dec 22)
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If LTD by now is close to 400k Tales won't have an easy fight.
Last known number was 310k (by March 31st 2018). At that point, it did 1.31M worldwide. Last we heard, WW it did 1.73M by March 31st 2019, so the JP number is likely to have grown by a couple of 10k as well. 350k+ seems plausible imo.
I edited my post, i completely forgot about mario sonic jo 2020 that ranks at 20 th.
Awesome numbers all around. I have a Japanese and an European account on my switch, and it seems incredible to me N Japan is still promoting vouchers, and the American side just nuke them. I am planning to buy one for Animal crossing (if applicable) and FE#SMT.
I wonder how many people are saving a voucher for Animal Crossing...
I wonder how many people are saving a voucher for Animal Crossing...
The denial some of these devs have is astounding. Not knowing how xenoblade 2 sold is also funny if they were doing a market analysis for xenosaga.
I hope this tales does well and finally elevates the series given it's history, but I can't help but wonder how he'd respond to an interviewer asking him why it sold less than xenoblade 2.
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Worldwide
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Q3 2017 - 1,06m
Q4 2017 - 0,25m / 1,31m
Q1 2018 - 0,11m / 1,42m
Q2 2018 - 0,11m / 1,53m
Q3 2018 - 0,12m / 1,65m
Q4 2018 - 0,08m / 1,73m
Octopath Traveler
Q2 2018 < 1,00m (west)
Q2-Q3 2018 - 1,08m (west)
Q2-Q4 2018 - 1,17m (west)
Until January 2018 - 1,50m (worldwide)
At Japan, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was at 310k by Q4 2017 and Octopath Traveler at 330-420k by January 2018.
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Oh yea I forgot Octopath has much higher sales than GDL's number due to shortage.
Maybe it'd be closer than I thought.
From GDL, Berseria's shipment was apparently even lower:
220,719 for PS4 version and 112,757 for PS3 version.
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If Arise has another decline in Japan the fight will be close with Octopath Traveler. In any case it won't be an easy win for Tales.
including digital as they come from Nintendo (sans OT's JP numbers)
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2016 CY {2016.01.04 - 2017.01.01} 026. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 227.924 / 227.924
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 635. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 2.773 / 230.697
2018 CY {2018.01.01 - 2018.12.30} 000. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 212 / 230.909
2016 CY {2016.01.04 - 2017.01.01} 064. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 111.024 / 111.024
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 835. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 1.429 / 112.453
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 309. [PS4] Tales of Berseria [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.06.01} (¥3.800) - 11.484 / 11.484
2018 CY {2018.01.01 - 2018.12.30} 467. [PS4] Tales of Berseria [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.06.01} (¥3.800) - 4.981 / 16.465
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 635. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 2.773 / 230.697
2018 CY {2018.01.01 - 2018.12.30} 000. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 212 / 230.909
2016 CY {2016.01.04 - 2017.01.01} 064. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 111.024 / 111.024
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 835. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 1.429 / 112.453
2017 CY {2017.01.02 - 2017.12.31} 309. [PS4] Tales of Berseria [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.06.01} (¥3.800) - 11.484 / 11.484
2018 CY {2018.01.01 - 2018.12.30} 467. [PS4] Tales of Berseria [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.06.01} (¥3.800) - 4.981 / 16.465
Do these numbers take in market share promotion? I'd be much more interested in seeing percentages. Raw numbers of software sales without considering how many consoles there are is kind of deceptive...
Userbase will have ceased to be a factor at some point this year and at this point that would imply that Switch SKUs should always sell better.
That's true, there is room for slight differences in preferences between different console owners and different buying habits, looking at raw numbers never tells the whole story.
Bullets Co., Ltd. did the trilogy on Switch but not on PS4. h.a.n.d was involved (and may have been the main team on PS4) doesn't list the Switch version on their site.
I guess I was basing it off of Piston's charts. Seems like they've been selling a lot of software below the top 30? Also, where'd you find that data out of curiosity?
Both Xillia and Zestiria are above 1M, and Zestiria by a big margin (above 1.2M is more likely thanks to the bonus of being the first Tales on Steam)
With the regular decline, 350k shipped LTD should be the expected (retail+digital, so think >250k physical), however it will be the the first proper Tales on PS4 so it could see some return to form like Xillia had by being the first proper Tales on PS3 so maybe something in the 350-500k range is doable, still too early to tell though.
Do you mean to launch exclusively? Cause Berseria launched on PS4 with the PS3 version.
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Media Create White Papers are in the archive thread.
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Xenoblade 2 sold 65k at retail in Japan in 2018, it's safe to assume shipments for it are at 350-400k too by now.
Xenoblade also benefited from the vouchers programm. We saw the game chartinh high in digital charts after the start of the programm.
Yes, first episode made for PS4 from the ground up, after a near four years break even.
Graces and Vesperia were released on PS3 as well, but neither went as high as Xillia did (>500k first week).
I would say this is a completely different situation from Xillia.
Theyve already expanded their studios to provide AA jrpgs. If it wasent for square enix they would be the Kings of it
Dengeki Online Sales: Week 51, 2019 (Dec 16 - 22)
01./02. [NSW] Pokemon Sword (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 135,874 / 1,186,757
02./03. [NSW] Pokemon Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 82,300 / 795,123
03./05. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} - 74,778 / 457,783
04./06. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 (Sega) {2019.11.01} - 55,453 / 156,169
05./04. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} - 52,465 / 428,168
06./07. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} - 40,533 / 1,144,404
07./09. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.07.25} - 38,011 / 310,835
08./08. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} - 34,161 / 3,491,352
09./12. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} - 33,583 / 2,446,303
10./10. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} - 33,289 / 732,726
11./13. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} - 31,361 / 1,231,764
12./11. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield Double Pack (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 24,944 / 387,072
13./15. [NSW] Disney Tsum Tsum Festival (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.10.10} - 21,172 / 114,287
14./00. [PS4] Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2019.12.19} - 20,542 / NEW
15./16. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ (Level 5) {2019.12.05} - 19,817 / 40,638
16./17. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 19,406 / 3,156,307
17./01. [PS4] New Sakura Wars (Sega) {2019.12.12} - 16,731 / 162,024
18./18. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} - 11,739 / 764,586
19./00. [NSW] Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2019.12.19} - 10,994 / NEW
20./20. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} - 10,939 / 424,821
21./24. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} - 8,989 / 1,889,416
22./22. [NSW] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball (Konami) {2019.06.27} - 8,739 / 205,260
23./26. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 8,183 / 1,133,818
24./00. [NSW] Terraria (Spike Chunsoft) {2019.12.19} - 7,939 / NEW
25./27. [NSW] Eiga Sumikko Gurashi: Tobidasu Ehon to Himitsu no Ko - Game de Asobou! Ehon no Sekai (Nippon Columbia) {2019.11.07} - 7,582 / 24,040
26./19. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age S - Definitive Edition (Square Enix) {2019.09.27} - 7,317 / 475,038
27./25. [NSW] Fortnite: Darkfire Bundle (Epic Games) {2019.11.07} - 7,239 / 29,898
28./30. [NSW] Model Debut Nicola (FuRyu) {2019.11.01} - 6,559 / 21,010
29./31. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} - 6,189 / 800,705
30./38. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game (Sega) {2019.07.24} - 6,106 / 73,889
31./41. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition (Capcom) {2019.09.06} - 6,006 / 443,122
32./00. [NSW] Uta no Prince-Sama: Repeat Love for Nintendo Switch (Broccoli) {2019.12.19} - 5,800 / NEW
33./33. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Gakkou Seikatsu Hajimerun Desu (Nippon Columbia) {2019.07.18} - 5,639 / 39,150
34./40. [NSW] FIFA 20 Legacy Edition (Electronic Arts) {2019.09.27} - 4,994 / 35,891
35./39. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (Nintendo) {2019.09.20} - 4,759 / 237,769
36./21. [PS4] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 3,694 / 90,563
37./32. [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.10.25} - 3,550 / 195,770
38./53. [PS4] eFootball Winning Eleven 2020 (Konami) {2019.09.12} - 3,547 / 113,498
39./28. [PS4] Death Stranding (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.11.08} - 3,431 / 270,742
40./35. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town (Marvelous) {2019.10.17} - 3,378 / 112,999
41./46. [NSW] Ninja Box (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.09.26} - 3,211 / 21,376
42./00. [NSW] Obakeidoro! (Freestyle) {2019.12.19} - 3,189 / NEW
43./47. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} - 3,165 / 192,944
44./29. [PS4] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus) {2019.11.28} - 3,131 / 48,039
45./50. [NSW] Doraemon: Story of Seasons (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.06.13} - 3,017 / 111,573
46./37. [PS4] Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (Electronic Arts) {2019.11.15} - 3,000 / 54,814
47./00. [NSW] Bustafellows (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) {2019.12.19} - 2,919 / NEW
48./00. [PS4] The Surge 2 (Oizumi Amuzio) {2019.12.19} - 2,785 / NEW
49./23. [NSW] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 2,767 / 62,247
50./42. [NSW] Fortnite (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.12.13} - 2,622 / 63,372
Top 50
NSW - 40
PS4 - 10
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Dengeki Online Sales: Week 50, 2019 (Dec 09 - Dec 15)
01./02. [NSW] Pokemon Sword (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 135,874 / 1,186,757
02./03. [NSW] Pokemon Shield (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 82,300 / 795,123
03./05. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} - 74,778 / 457,783
04./06. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 (Sega) {2019.11.01} - 55,453 / 156,169
05./04. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} - 52,465 / 428,168
06./07. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} - 40,533 / 1,144,404
07./09. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.07.25} - 38,011 / 310,835
08./08. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} - 34,161 / 3,491,352
09./12. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} - 33,583 / 2,446,303
10./10. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} - 33,289 / 732,726
11./13. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} - 31,361 / 1,231,764
12./11. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield Double Pack (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} - 24,944 / 387,072
13./15. [NSW] Disney Tsum Tsum Festival (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.10.10} - 21,172 / 114,287
14./00. [PS4] Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2019.12.19} - 20,542 / NEW
15./16. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ (Level 5) {2019.12.05} - 19,817 / 40,638
16./17. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 19,406 / 3,156,307
17./01. [PS4] New Sakura Wars (Sega) {2019.12.12} - 16,731 / 162,024
18./18. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} - 11,739 / 764,586
19./00. [NSW] Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2019.12.19} - 10,994 / NEW
20./20. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} - 10,939 / 424,821
21./24. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} - 8,989 / 1,889,416
22./22. [NSW] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball (Konami) {2019.06.27} - 8,739 / 205,260
23./26. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 8,183 / 1,133,818
24./00. [NSW] Terraria (Spike Chunsoft) {2019.12.19} - 7,939 / NEW
25./27. [NSW] Eiga Sumikko Gurashi: Tobidasu Ehon to Himitsu no Ko - Game de Asobou! Ehon no Sekai (Nippon Columbia) {2019.11.07} - 7,582 / 24,040
26./19. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age S - Definitive Edition (Square Enix) {2019.09.27} - 7,317 / 475,038
27./25. [NSW] Fortnite: Darkfire Bundle (Epic Games) {2019.11.07} - 7,239 / 29,898
28./30. [NSW] Model Debut Nicola (FuRyu) {2019.11.01} - 6,559 / 21,010
29./31. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} - 6,189 / 800,705
30./38. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game (Sega) {2019.07.24} - 6,106 / 73,889
31./41. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition (Capcom) {2019.09.06} - 6,006 / 443,122
32./00. [NSW] Uta no Prince-Sama: Repeat Love for Nintendo Switch (Broccoli) {2019.12.19} - 5,800 / NEW
33./33. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Gakkou Seikatsu Hajimerun Desu (Nippon Columbia) {2019.07.18} - 5,639 / 39,150
34./40. [NSW] FIFA 20 Legacy Edition (Electronic Arts) {2019.09.27} - 4,994 / 35,891
35./39. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (Nintendo) {2019.09.20} - 4,759 / 237,769
36./21. [PS4] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 3,694 / 90,563
37./32. [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.10.25} - 3,550 / 195,770
38./53. [PS4] eFootball Winning Eleven 2020 (Konami) {2019.09.12} - 3,547 / 113,498
39./28. [PS4] Death Stranding (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.11.08} - 3,431 / 270,742
40./35. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town (Marvelous) {2019.10.17} - 3,378 / 112,999
41./46. [NSW] Ninja Box (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.09.26} - 3,211 / 21,376
42./00. [NSW] Obakeidoro! (Freestyle) {2019.12.19} - 3,189 / NEW
43./47. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} - 3,165 / 192,944
44./29. [PS4] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus) {2019.11.28} - 3,131 / 48,039
45./50. [NSW] Doraemon: Story of Seasons (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.06.13} - 3,017 / 111,573
46./37. [PS4] Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (Electronic Arts) {2019.11.15} - 3,000 / 54,814
47./00. [NSW] Bustafellows (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) {2019.12.19} - 2,919 / NEW
48./00. [PS4] The Surge 2 (Oizumi Amuzio) {2019.12.19} - 2,785 / NEW
49./23. [NSW] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.11.28} - 2,767 / 62,247
50./42. [NSW] Fortnite (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.12.13} - 2,622 / 63,372
Top 50
NSW - 40
PS4 - 10
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) | FY 2019 | FY(%) |
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| Switch| 959,751 | 86.7% | 11,799,168 | 68.7% |
| PS4 | 138,705 | 12.5% | 4,781,222 | 27.8% |
| 3DS | 5,205 | 0.5% | 370,390 | 2.2% |
| Vita | 2,451 | 0.2% | 191,728 | 1.1% |
| ETC | 523 | 0.0% | 27,785 | 0.2% |
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| Total | 1,106,635 | 100.0% | 17,170,293 | 100.0% |
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) | FY 2019 | FY(%) |
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| Switch | 176,861 | 43.7% | 2,351,992 | 56.5% |
| PS4 | 123,176 | 30.4% | 723,587 | 17.4% |
| Switch Lite| 99,626 | 24.6% | 971,293 | 23.3% |
| 3DS | 4,886 | 1.2% | 100,873 | 2.4% |
| ETC | 409 | 0.1% | 6,379 | 0.2% |
| Vita | 65 | 0.0% | 6,001 | 0.1% |
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| Total | 405,023 | 100.0% | 4,160,125 | 100.0% |
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37./32. [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.10.25} - 3,550 / 195,770
Dengeki Online Sales: Week 51, 2018 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
31./17. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.10.12} - 5,688 / 492,597
37./32. [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.10.25} - 3,550 / 195,770
Dengeki Online Sales: Week 51, 2018 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
31./17. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.10.12} - 5,688 / 492,597
Those numbers are for October, Famitsu Digital Estimates (Sep 30 - Oct 27)
I know that. Big numbers for October but it wont be different for Nov or Dec. Ps4 games with very generous sales selling a lot.
Staggering. Though to be fair BOIIII was very successful for a COD game.
That decline in only a year is very weird. Someone mentionned that the BOPS branding is stronger in Japan so that might explain some of it. We will know next year with BOPS5.
Lol@Famitsu Digital Estimates
DQ3 nowhere to be seen despite the fact it outsold Link's Awakening in October.
It launched on the 27th Sept as well.
DQ3 nowhere to be seen despite the fact it outsold Link's Awakening in October.
It launched on the 27th Sept as well.
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Call of Duty sales this year are low comparing to several past entries, not just those named Black Ops.
I don't know yet, I'm merely raising the possibility, the series will have had a 4 years hiatus by the game release, it should be treated as the 25th series anniversary title and is the first current gen title and is making it obvious on the visual front. PS4 install base should be more than mature to allow this kind of game to perform.
We're probably more than half a year away from the release though, so we're lacking too many elements to know what the title's potential will really be, for all we know Bamco might bank fully on the west and just do the usual push in Japan for 300-350k sales, but maybe they'll try the same way they did with Xillia
Both Graces and Vesperia already had their extended rerelease for PS3 and they sold well for what they were, on that part Xillia was nothing new and didn't look like that different coming from Graces, what changed was that they really went all out on... everything outside the core game, marketing, character design, anime cutscenes and so on using the 15th series anniversary as an excuse, and it worked in spite of the game itself.
If they put a decent effort on Arise there is a possibility of raising the series potential once again, not as high as Xillia did (650k), these days are gone, but higher than the titles that came afterwards (Xillia 2 450k and Zestiria-Berseria 400k)
I'm not betting on anything yet, just leaving the window open.
Yes I know but maybe it is a cumulative effect like No BOPS + Western decline in Japan.
Although didn't that CoD do so well partly because of Monster Hunter World players were looking for another game to play? This entry of CoD sold really poorly though...
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Well see but the state of both PS4 and Tales in 2020 isn't the same with the state of PS3 and Tales in 2011.
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There won't be a rebound if Japanese developers are quicker this time with more cross platform games.
But these are all theoretical until we see price and launch line up.
The transition to digital is likely more aggressive on Western titles. Dont see how the PS5 rebounds at retail knowing what we know
With BC, every PS4 game will be cross-platform so it will be better than the PS3 -> PS5 transition in that regard. Or do you mean PS5 enhanced ?
Yeah that could explain some of it. It is weird that Acti didn't bring a BR mode in MW or at least make Blackout a separate F2P game.
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Not making PS5 enhanced versions of PS4 games means basically zero reasons to upgrade to next gen in Japan for these games.
Who wants to spend $500 to play PS4 games? If japanese developers dont differentiate their next gen games early I dont see PS5 having a strong start in Japan.
Square Enix will definitely have next gen games ready. maybe Bamco, but I think their still will all be cross-gen