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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2018 (Feb 05 - Feb 11)
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I've seen some TV ads but not very often.
I've also seen quite a lot of Youtube ads, but that might be because I watch quite a lot of Nintendo related stuff.
Bayonetta 2 was always going to be an irrelevant release in Japan but I thought it would be doing a bit more than a mere 20k.
A fair amount for what the game is being propped up as (it's still a pretty straightforward up-port, not a drastically content improved port).
The first one 銃剣 (Bayonet), the second one Boys 2 Men should be 2 Man = 20k
Bayonetta 2 opened at 33k on Wii U.
How many SKUs are there in Japan? Climax Edition + Bayonetta 2 standalone?
How many SKUs are there in Japan? Climax Edition + Bayonetta 2 standalone?
Were people expecting Bayonetta to outsell the WiiU version's first week? None of the WiiU ports did that, not even MK8D. I think expecting more than 33k was always unrealistic. I want to see its legs and if it can sell beyond the 80k of the WiiU version before saying anything like it doesn't have an audience (of course, we can confidently say that Bayonetta is a niche release, it has been since inception. I wouldn't expect much more than 1 million from Bayo 3 either, for example).
i mean we'll know fairly soon.
Unless switch got a bump, I'll assume ps4 is still higher
pokken didn't either right.
On the latter: yes, I think PS4'll be a hair ahead of Switch (50k vs. 45k or something like that). On the former: yes for MC, no for Famitsu and Dengeki.
I think it opened around half of the WiiU game.
Edit: I was wrong:
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01./00. [WIU] Pokken Tournament # <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.03.18} (¥7.200) - 69.675 / NEW <36,65%>
01./00. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} (¥5.980) - 53.395 / NEW <41,39%>
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Did you have the same reaction for every other Wii U to switch ports that opened lower than the original?
I'm quite interested in seeing how M+R fared this week. It had a very mild drop in the week before last, but then that week after it had the same drop, so it'll be interesting to see if it drops further still or will hold steady around this level in the next report.
wow. unless they mess it up, I wonder if a potential Pokken 2 will do 500k or even more.
with the framework laid, they could improve the content.
I'm guessing 2020.
It's starting to look like MHW is home console gaming in Japan, lol
No, not everyone, because not every game on Wii U bombed.
If a game on Wii U sold bad, and a port sell even worse, tell me how it is not a bad result.
I expect it to have better legs than the WiiU release. WiiU version did 80k in the end, so a 2.4x multiplier. Switch version should be able to do better, maybe a 4x multiplier or more? That should put it at around the WiiU version or above it.
That's pure speculation, of course, and we'll need to see how it sells in the weeks to come to verify.
a bit early to know
The data we currently have is a similar/ lesser opening in the UK depending on digital.
and 20k retail in japan.
and eshop rankings. Bayo 1 is #1 atm in the US, and Bayo 2 is #3.
that's all we got.
We also need to see digital sales, Bayonetta 2 Wii U only did like 3K or so.
Bayonetts 2 Switch should be able to beat that by a good margin.
There is more potential in the franchise than what it has done on WiiU. The Switch version legs will be a good indication of that. Lets see how that goes. Bayo 3 will be the real test, though.
Looking at further anecdotes: the game did really well on amazon US, and on plenty of other amazon pages as well, all noticeably better than amazon Japan. We'll have to see how well it does in the end, but I don't think a small opening in the UK and in Japan damn the game just yet.
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Bayo 1+2 will sell fine. Maybe not in Japan, but globally it should do well enough.
And ultimately, it doesn't even matter all that much, as Nintendo is clearly in it for the long haul with this IP. Now if Bayo 3 is a huge bomb globally, that could be a problem. But I'd personally be ok with the series ending as a trilogy.
And ultimately, it doesn't even matter all that much, as Nintendo is clearly in it for the long haul with this IP. Now if Bayo 3 is a huge bomb globally, that could be a problem. But I'd personally be ok with the series ending as a trilogy.
i thought uk's opening was pretty decent assuming ditigal had it match the 10k.
but maybe my expectations weren't high
I think people are overreacting a bit. Switch games tend to have legs (even games that traditionally are very frontloaded) and Bayonetta 3 has been announced so there's an incentive to pick up the first two entries as the release of the sequel approaches.
Also, beating sales of Wii U games shouldn't be the norm. Switch proved to be able to do so for both small and big games but it's not a rule. Re-release with few additional contents are not used to sell as well as original release. Sure, Switch is much more successful but Bayonetta is still a small franchise for which installed base might play a limited role. I would say that the composition of Switch demo might play a bigger role in the long-run.
Finally, people refer to the first Bayonetta as a successful game and transfer this popularity to the franchise itself. It's not automatic. There are many franchises that saw one successful release and then popularity died off for one reason or another.
Also, beating sales of Wii U games shouldn't be the norm. Switch proved to be able to do so for both small and big games but it's not a rule. Re-release with few additional contents are not used to sell as well as original release. Sure, Switch is much more successful but Bayonetta is still a small franchise for which installed base might play a limited role. I would say that the composition of Switch demo might play a bigger role in the long-run.
Finally, people refer to the first Bayonetta as a successful game and transfer this popularity to the franchise itself. It's not automatic. There are many franchises that saw one successful release and then popularity died off for one reason or another.
Bayonetta 2 may have some semblence on legs but its not going to match the original. In the same notion the Switch just needs actual releases. They dont all have to do amazing but a somewhat regular release schedule is important. That adds value here.
It sold 420k last year. PSV and PS4 SKUs should hold it fine.
We'll see if Bayo 3 can match the original. I find it funny that Platinums most successful original IP was declared by pubs to be a bomba. Kind of shows heir struggle at making original IP.
I think 200k units were the ceiling for the PSV version. It might drop 50-70k units from last year's release. PSV is, after all, in its twilight. Unless it is able to pick up some PS3 users (which should PS4 role at this time).
I personally thought Bayo would open at 25-30K so opening a bit below that isn't that surprising. To me the more interesting thing is that if it exhibits legs in Japan. Next weeks drop will be more interesting, for me personally.
I think Amazon usually provides a good idea about trends in terms of software sales, the utilization of data from several retailers can generally give us an idea about where sales will end up.
The main thing about Japan is unlike majority of other markets provides a lot of data points via the weekly/daily/hourly retailer rankings.
I think Amazon usually provides a good idea about trends in terms of software sales, the utilization of data from several retailers can generally give us an idea about where sales will end up.
The main thing about Japan is unlike majority of other markets provides a lot of data points via the weekly/daily/hourly retailer rankings.
Indeed. Bayo 3 is not looking promising going by these figures.
Would Bayonetta be the first Switch "port" to sell worse (LTD) than the Wii U version did then?
No. There were quite a few in fact : Lego City Undercover is one of them.
Rayman Legends will probably sell fewer copies too. I sense a rough pattern between first party ports and third party ports.
look at dem legs
I was shocked no one made this joke yet. Now is all normal.
That's one. Name one more at least. :P
It's interesting that over the last week Zelda has ranked higher on Amazon.co.jp than either Super Mario Odyssey and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Perhaps this speaks of the trend in terms of the type of buyers getting the Switch right now, older audience picking up the console right now compared to the holidays where more kids were getting a Switch.
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