Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2019 (Feb 11 - Feb 17)

[Marmoka]

Switch YTD Hardware Sales Comparison

Switch vs Wii (next week PS2 will join the graph)
Weekly

Accumulated

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|    |    Nintendo Wii   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  |
|    |    (2006/12/02)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              |
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|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - Wii  |
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| 101|   23.123|6.927.943|   69.472|7.317.862|       389.919|
| 102|   24.726|6.952.669|   61.280|7.379.142|       426.473|
| 103|   26.787|6.979.456|   65.958|7.445.100|       465.644|
| 104|   35.298|7.014.754|         |         |              |
| 105|   49.848|7.064.602|         |         |              |
| 106|   56.702|7.121.304|         |         |              |
| 107|   91.641|7.212.945|         |         |              |
| 108|  131.054|7.343.999|         |         |              |
| 109|  134.978|7.478.977|         |         |              |
| 110|  119.965|7.598.866|         |         |              |
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PS4 vs PS3

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|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  |
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              |
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|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 259|   23.897|7.192.593|   25.614|7.848.638|       656.045|
| 260|   25.217|7.217.810|   19.694|7.868.332|       650.522|
| 261|   26.966|7.244.776|   19.684|7.888.016|       643.240|
| 262|   22.919|7.267.695|         |         |              |
| 263|   41.069|7.308.764|         |         |              |
| 264|   34.031|7.342.795|         |         |              |
| 265|   40.668|7.383.463|         |         |              |
| 266|   44.661|7.428.124|         |         |              |
| 267|   65.119|7.493.243|         |         |              |
| 268|   75.943|7.569.186|         |         |              |
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New Super Mario Bros U comparison

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|    | NS Mario Bros. U  |NS Mario Bros. U DX|  Difference  |
|    | [WIU] (2012/12/08)| [NSW] (2019/01/11)|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | Switch – WiiU|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |  163.528|  163.528|  166.303|  166.303|         2.775|
|  2 |   71.011|  234.539|   88.840|  255.143|        20.604|
|  3 |   77.749|  312.288|   57.725|  312.869|           581|
|  4 |   57.103|  369.392|   45.879|  358.748|       -10.644|
|  5 |   50.319|  419.710|   38.482|  397.231|       -22.479|
|  6 |   12.400|  432.110|   34.541|  431.771|          -339|
|  7 |    9.598|  441.708|         |         |              |
|  8 |    6.883|  448.591|         |         |              |
|  9 |    6.338|  454.929|         |         |              |
| 10 |    5.857|  460.786|         |         |              |
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Minecraft Switch vs Minecraft Vita Edition

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|    | Minecraft Vita    | Minecraft Switch  |  Difference  |
|    | [PSV] (2015/03/19)| [NSW] (2018/06/21)|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | Switch – Vita|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 33 |    7.155|  382.419|    8.250|  590.289|       207.870|
| 34 |    7.847|  390.266|    8.308|  598.597|       208.331|
| 35 |    6.880|  397.146|    8.905|  607.502|       210.356|
| 36 |    7.182|  404.329|         |         |              |
| 37 |    8.859|  413.188|         |         |              |
| 38 |   11.179|  424.367|         |         |              |
| 39 |   17.643|  442.010|         |         |              |
| 40 |   32.129|  474.139|         |         |              |
| 41 |   62.356|  536.495|         |         |              |
| 42 |   48.222|  584.717|         |         |              |
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KH3 vs FFXV

RE2 vs RE7

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I love your charts. Keep doing the great job!
I'd like to see Smash Bros sales compared to previous releases, and I think it would be nice to see Switch numbers approaching PS4 numbers in the following weeks. I'm pretty sure we would see interesting tendencies there as well ;)

 

[Fisico]

At least it's getting closer to selling it's first shipment without heavy discounts unlike FFXV.

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The price of Kingdom Hearts 3 is already dropping at some places. For example:

https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/107002054000 (down 37% from retail)

But yeah, nothing as extreme as FFXV yet.

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Media Create
01./00. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 610.077 / NEW <79,32%>

Shipment : 769.133

Only 14k left, no problem there, probably received a second shipment even.

Famitsu
01./00. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 640.406 / NEW <60-80%>
01./01. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 81.795 / 722.201 <80-100%> (-87%)

Shipment: 800.507<x<902.751
Somewhere between 35-135k left, probably closer to the former than the latter

 

[casiopao]

Nobuna's Ambition Taishi (OG version):

[PS4] Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi - 35.027 / 56.825
[SWI] Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi - 5.786 / 5.786

https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/game-search

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There won't be any leg for Switch version sadly. But it is a late port. So i hope Koei won't be delusional to think that it will sell crazy there.

 

[Johnny]

Switch crushing it this year in Japan. And the Japanese lineup for the rest of the year is insane. Mario Maker in June will do a lot for the system's YOY comparisons.

 

[Adamska]

Japan gaming market have been missing on many PS quality release since years lol. I don't think they even know whats released on PS4 anymore nowadays.

Thats the consequences of Sony putting their eggs all on the west first over Japan. I don't think Sony will also miss Japan though. They are undisputed king of gaming ecos atm. Thats a trade any big console maker company would want to make lol.

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Ah yes, definitely. Would like to know if other asian countries have similar consumption habits to the Japanese too, since Sony sees so much more success on the rest of the world.

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

Not gonna shed a single tear over Catherine bombing on Vita, and well everywhere else because of Atlus' perplexing decision not to release it on Switch. Fuck that game and fuck the bigot behind it.

 

[ShinobiBk]

Yes we all knew Catherine on Vita was a complete waste of time.

As bad as Persona Q2 only on 3DS. A complete waste of resources when they could've sold more on other platforms

 

[Oregano]

Yes we all knew Catherine on Vita was a complete waste of time.

As bad as Persona Q2 only on 3DS. A complete waste of resources when they could've sold more on other platforms

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Persona Q2 at least had the excuse of using an engine and gameplay design that was only suited for 3DS.

Catherine was a PS3 game so a Vita port would have required quite a bit of additional work.

 

[Lite_Agent]

There won't be any leg for Switch version sadly. But it is a late port. So i hope Koei won't be delusional to think that it will sell crazy there.

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Huh? This isn't a late port. Even the original wasn't one. I think you meant "re-release" or something ;)

 

[Chris1964]

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[Chris1964]

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[Chris1964]

Monday and direct did their work for Switch.

 

[Cantaim]

Jump Force came out with a better opening then I thought it would (my guess was around 50k). Interested in seeing if it has any legs at all. Though I wouldn't bet on it. And damn Chris wasn't kidding in the last thread when he said the Vita version of Cathrine was a flop.

 

[Deleted member 2793]

Catherine bombing is the kind of small petty happiness I like to have in my mornings.

 

[Mory Dunz]

One...

Spoiler

 

[Chris1964]

Second week Famitsu posts top 10 and mentions it's top 5. Some time they'll find the error.

 

[casiopao]

Huh? This isn't a late port. Even the original wasn't one. I think you meant "re-release" or something ;)

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Ahh yes lol. I wanted to say rerelease there. Not sure why late port pop out on my head first.O_O

Ah yes, definitely. Would like to know if other asian countries have similar consumption habits to the Japanese too, since Sony sees so much more success on the rest of the world.

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I don't think other asian countries had the same habits to japan at all. The gaming DNA for rest of Asia is absolutely different vs Japan. More focus on PC more than gaming consoles like japan.

 

[Marukoban]

Ah yes, definitely. Would like to know if other asian countries have similar consumption habits to the Japanese too, since Sony sees so much more success on the rest of the world.

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Sony is bigger than Nintendo in the rest of Asia.
Having said that, both are nothing compared to PC and mobile.
MMORPG and F2P with microtransactions has been a thing here since early 2000.

 

[Sweeney Swift]

Glad to see Catherine: Full Transphobia flopping

 

[Arthoneceron]

Sony or die.

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Hope they're on talk with their morticians.

 

[Guaraná]

Glad to see Catherine: Full Transphobia flopping

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Oh, and there is that thing!
Yeah, now Im glad it failed.

 

[zroid]

Blessed of the Wild

 

[Deleted member 11008]

Evergreen titles + Direct is doing a nice work for Switch. Maybe more the former.

 

[casiopao]

Sony is bigger than Nintendo in the rest of Asia.
Having said that, both are nothing compared to PC and mobile.
MMORPG and F2P with microtransactions has been a thing here since early 2000.

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Ragnarok Online mobile have been making crazy money in all SEA lol. THere is an auction for a rideable unicorn that hit 35k USD for a single item lol. It is truly insane to see gigantic Whale come out in Indonesia lol.

 

[Lite_Agent]

Ahh yes lol. I wanted to say rerelease there. Not sure why late port pop out on my head first.O_O

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Force of habit, maybe ;)

But honestly, doubt KT is really worried. Series itself is very niche, and with how pricey the games are...

 

[HardRojo]

Nobody is stopping that Zelda climb.

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This is why you max out stamina.

 

[casiopao]

Force of habit, maybe ;)

But honestly, doubt KT is really worried. Series itself is very niche, and with how pricey the games are...

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Haha indeed.^_^ I am also so confused on KT there regarding why it won't localize Nobunaga no Yabou for Switch here. Considering that they already localize it on PC or PS4, why just ignore Switch here.T_T

 

[dabbling]

Is the Pokémon bundle still available and therefore driving these impressive switch holds?

 

[kickz]

Damn, Switch starting to hit that DS/3DS stride

 

[Simba1]

Great YoY growth for Switch and huge YoY decline for PS4 despite PS4 had 5 new releases.
Very impresive Switch numbers.

 

[Forkball]

Animal Crossing is not even out yet.

IT'S NOT EVEN OUT

 

[Lite_Agent]

14./08. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 8.905 / 607.502 (+7%)

600k, finally. Next step: 700k. Probably during H1 2019.

Is the Pokémon bundle still available and therefore driving these impressive switch holds?

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Pretty sure it's still available, but given Pokémon sales are down this week, they're not the main driving force.

 

[test_account]

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Thanks :) I guess if Vita recieves a similar bump, it should be able to cross 6 million.

With no new software switch went up? Weird.
Vita and PS4 barely budged.
Vita sales for Catherine can't have been worth the port, right? Still no clue why Atlus wanted a PS3 downport on vita in 2019

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Do we have any indication how much work that went into the port? I mean if its something out of the ordinary in terms of PS3/Vita releases. Theres many PS3/Vita multiplatform games, so maybe the porting didnt require THAT much work? Theres other games that sell less than 10k, but keeps on getting released (like visual novels), so maybe it could be worth it.

Would have been nice to see a Switch version as well though i think, just to see the sales potential.

 

[KillerMan91]

Yeah I think Switch is gonna start to recover the gap on the 3DS this year.

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While Switch sales are great and improvement from last year I don't think people always remember that 3DS still had massive sales in 2013.

First 7 weeks of the year (MC).

NSW 2019:

199.982
78.056
71.139
52.429
69.472
61.280
65.958

Total = 598.316

3DS 2013:

279.259
92.661
81.855
75.124
77.682
127.695 (DQ VII Remake)
97.971

Total = 832.247

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[DarkDetective]

Glad to see Catherine: Full Transphobia flopping

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It didn't flop...

 

[sfortunato]

Switch performance is pretty crazy considering it "only" had NSMB---point is, NSMB has been much more impactful than expected. The game is approaching 500k units really fast. Also, evergreens and Smash are pushing hardware sales.

That's kinda why I said if you were to graph out number of third party releases that chart each month, and compare it over the past few years... maybe someone makes that sort of chart already? I suppose you could also just compare the number of releases for the systems each month/year, but I feel like if you just look at the ones that are actually charting, perhaps it's a bit more honest of a number than simply all releases? And seeing each month's numbers over the course of a few years - you should see trends of systems getting more and less support?

I don't know, the whole reason I was thinking about it perhaps was because this is a single week, and there's a lot of new PS4 releases, and very few Switch ones, but I (probably incorrectly) feel, that's actually not too far off the norm?

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Switch will always have a lower amount of third party releases than PS platforms, period. It's caching up with respect to Wii U and closing the gap with respect to 3DS but it won't be able to overcome Nintendo historical difficulties in attracting third parties. And we should not even expect that---Switch has first party games which desirability is way above first party games on Sony platforms. Switch, to be successful, doesn't need to have as many third party games as a Sony platform.

 

[Principate]

While Switch sales are great and improvement from last year I don't think people always remember that 3DS still had massive sales in 2013.

First 7 weeks of the year (MC).

NSW 2019:

199.982
78.056
71.139
52.429
69.472
61.280
65.958

Total = 598.316

3DS 2013:

279.259
92.661
81.855
75.124
77.682
127.695 (DQ VII Remake)
97.971

Total = 832.247

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I remember. Those were interesting times. Post price cut the 3DS sold extremely well up until it's later years.

It didn't flop...

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I didn't do particularly well either. It's notable quite poor even in comparison to Atlus late gen ports.

 

[Mr Swine]

Wow great Switch sales! I honestly thought it would do 50-55k but 65k and it did more than last week? Whoa indeed! Best thing of all is that it's selling at a way higher price than 3DS and Vita ever did!

 

[KillerMan91]

I remember. Those were interesting times. Post price cut the 3DS extremely well up until it's later years.

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I think it did great even during its later years. it just started to hit saturation point because of massive early sales. DS and GB are kinda anomalies. DS as it it had appeal to demographics that were not traditionally audience for consoles (those are on mobile nowadays) and GB was sold for well over a decade (15 years!).

 

[dabbling]

Pretty sure it's still available, but given Pokémon sales are down this week, they're not the main driving force.

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Good point. Looking back, Pokémon sales are only ~6k higher than they were in week 4 (last week before the bundle returned, I think), so the bundle can't be the only thing. Impressive hardware sales then.

 

[Boiled Goose]

Switch selling with no new games....

Seems like money left on the table. Nintendo again has a wide open first half of the year and publishers don't take advantage of it

 

[Oregano]

Do we have any indication how much work that went into the port? I mean if its something out of the ordinary in terms of PS3/Vita releases. Theres many PS3/Vita multiplatform games, so maybe the porting didnt require THAT much work? Theres other games that sell less than 10k, but keeps on getting released (like visual novels), so maybe it could be worth it.

Would have been nice to see a Switch version as well though i think, just to see the sales potential.

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The vast majority of Switch/PS3 games were developed with Vita in mind. Catherine is a port of a game that was definitely developed with PS3/360 level hardware in mind.

 

[Chris1964]

It didn't flop...

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That's what we were thinking for Persona Q2 too.

Wait until we get sell-through first, sales have dropped like a rock at second week.

 

[zero_suit]

Switch selling with no new games....

Seems like money left on the table. Nintendo again has a wide open first half of the year and publishers don't take advantage of it

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Third party pubs have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Deleted member 1413]

Switch selling with no new games....

Seems like money left on the table. Nintendo again has a wide open first half of the year and publishers don't take advantage of it

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Switch's first half is kind of shockingly bad from Nintendo.
NSMBU and Yoshi were rumored/reported to be 2018 games but likely delayed to fill gaps, but like 3 2D platformers, all being Mario/spin offs seems like poor planning.

Compared to how stacked the second half with on average more than one game per month, I don't get how they could mess it up so much.

But at least there's some better spring 3rd party titles that might do well

 

[Chris1964]

Week 8, 2018

NSW - 39.696
PS4 - 34.775

MHW effect wares off and starting from week 9 comparisons will be much better for PS4 YOY. The problem is there is almost nothing notable releasing for the rest of the year after March and hardware will likely drop to low 10ks if Sony hasn't programmed a price drop before fall.

 

[Akita One]

Yes Mario U Deluxe...you must stay in the top 5 until June... I demand that you do!

 

[Fisico]

I didn't do particularly well either. It's notable quite poor even in comparison to Atlus late gen ports.

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Depends, below Atlus ports as far back as 2010

NDS-3DS ports/remasters/remakes

NDS Radiant Historia 34.084 75.411 Atlus 03/11/2010
3DS Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology 21.429 33.525 Atlus 29/06/2017

NDS Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor 56.689 106.997 Atlus 15/01/2009
3DS Devil Survivor: Over Clock 18.564 54.974

NDS Devil Survivor 2 62.246 99.748 Atlus 28/07/2011
3DS Devil Survivor 2: Break Record 52.368 76.504 Atlus 29/01/2015

NDS Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey [All Versions] 90.830 142.246 Atlus 08/10/2009
3DS Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux 57.725 83.747 Atlus 26/10/2017

NDS Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard [All Versions] 85.555 149.529 Atlus 21/02/2008
3DS Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight 60.123 90.588 Atlus 27/11/2014

NDS Etrian Odyssey 31.702 122.461 Atlus 18/01/2007
3DS Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl 92.566 138.808 Atlus 27/06/2013

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PS1/2 to PSP

PS2 Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of the Time 62.121 107.134 Atlus 18/12/2003
PSP Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded 24.665 37.715 Atlus 18/08/2011

PS1 Persona 2: Innocent Sin [All Versions] 170.577 278.268 Atlus 24/06/1999
PSP Persona 2: Innocent Sin 62.091 112.412 Atlus 14/04/2011

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Vanillaware port/remake

PS4 Dragon's Crown Pro 9.759 25.467 Atlus 08/02/2018
PS3 Dragon's Crown 109.031 154.769 Atlus 25/07/2013
PSV Dragon's Crown 75.506 120.292 Atlus 25/07/2013

PSV Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir 39.718 70.265 Atlus 14/01/2016
PS4 Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir 33.430 59.750 Atlus 14/01/2016
PS3 Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir 8.638 10.889 Atlus 14/01/2016
PS2 Odin Sphere 60.820 96.280 Atlus 17/05/2007

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Catherine FW numbers are around ~40% the original release, it's not very good but it's not bad either, somewhere in the middle probably on the lower end of their expectations as Full Body is not a straight port but not a full remake either
Something like 100k LTD (Japan only, digital included) should be alright for them.

 

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[casiopao]

That's what we were thinking for Persona Q2 too.

Wait until we get sell-through first, sales have dropped like a rock at second week.

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Yeah if the sell through is close enough, it will not be a flop but if it is around 40-60, it will drop like rock just like how PQ2 experience