85% sell-through is fantastic but also obvious hopefully Sega can quickly get more stock in stores.
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2020 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
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Probably, looks like everything anyone could want. Nintendo is aiming to break the top 10 with this title, Tobidase fell a little short.
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If Nagoshi put his hands on this game too we know why it ended like that. Retailers wouldn't overstock what it looks like a cheap re-release.
If that's the case why are Sony so hesitant to sell the ps4 for a fair price?
If you lower the price of your old console a lot, you make the new one less attractive by comparison.
You want people to think "If I pay a little more, I have a new console."
Thats true, but i dont think the normal Switch has a ~10k yen higher production cost compared to the Switch Lite. Not enough different parts between the two models to bring such a big price difference, in my opinion. But i expect the normal Switch version to be the most popular again once the stock situation is sorted out, so things will go back to the way they used to be in that case =)
Which accessories are more required for a Switch Lite by the way? An extra controller for two players?
Probably also because people buying old consoles cheap don't usually buy much software (or anything else with the console). if you lower the price of console by $100 in addition of extra hw sales you expect sw sales, DLC sales, subscription sales to make up for it. promotions in December greatly boosted hw sales of PS4 in japan but software was nowhere to be seen in charts.
You are also more likely to buy things like covers, which have huge margins.
It depends.
I don't know how much a PS4 costs to make. When it came out the reported cost was $381 [about 40,000yen] Source: https://gamerant.com/ps4-cost-build-manufacture/
But lets say, just as an example, now that manufacturing costs are down, it costs 15,000yen to make in 2020. And it sells for around 33,000yen. So the profit is 18,000yen per unit.
Now say Sony decides to drop the price of the console to 20,000yen. They will now have a profit of 5,000yen a unit.
I am sure there would be an early uptick in sales but would the system consistently sell more than 3 times what it sells now to account for the lost revenue?
Or how about a scenario where the PS4 only costs 10,000 to make. At the current price point there is a profit of 23,000yen. A 20,000yen PS4 would bring in 10,000yen profit. Sony would still have to sell 2.3 times as many systems.
Going the other way, let's say the system costs 20,000yen to make. In that case there is a 13,000yen profit per unit now compared to just breaking even.
Again, I pulled those numbers from my butt, but Sony knows the actual numbers and has done the math and perhaps they decided that it is indeed not going to bring in more money with a price cut or at least not enough money to risk cannibalizing sales of the PS5. Nintendo made the same decision with the WiiU.
If they had done it years ago it might have been in Sonys best interests to take a loss on the consoles to make it back in software. But at this point not much software is moving, there are no real evergreens on the system and 1st party development has mostly moved on.
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PS4 has already lost more than half of its exclusives and the rate it happens isn't slowing down.
They are not "required" but the extra pair of joy-con is more necessary if you want a full Switch experience.
Anyway, we don't know how much Switch costs to produce so the difference in price might well mirror the different in production costs.
Same as Wii U. Nintendo didn't drop the price likely because the increase in sales wouldn't have been enough to recover the loss in margins.
It's going to be 2017 all over again, isn't it. We're soon going to see just how big the remaining Lite stocks are.
Yeah, thats true. Same thing with the Switch dock, which also likely have a huge margin on it (mostly being plastic). Did Media Create White Pages report on how many plates that were sold for the 3DS by the way? To get an idea of the popularity.
Yeah, thats true. An extra controller is needed if you want to play the Switch Lite in table top mode for example, something that the regular Switch doesnt need (due to it already having two detachable controllers naturally).
And true that we dont know the production costs, but i cant see the dock (mainly plastic), extra parts regarding the controllers (some of this being mostly plastic/fabric, like the JoyCon grip and straps), a bit bigger screen, a HDMI cable and a more "advanced" USB-C port (supporting video out) having around 10k yen in production costs. That would surprise me at least.
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It's going to be 2017 all over again, isn't it. We're soon going to see just how big the remaining Lite stocks are.
Well, at least it's better than having no stock at all (I assume the stores that have re-started the lotteries didn't get any new shipment last week) :P
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It's what's going to happen honestly. The PS5 won't have incredible and Exclusive software that is relevant to Japanese gamers out of the gate. It'll have multiplat titles split between itself, the PS4, and Switch for 2-3 years. It's an issue the PS4 had at the start of this gen with the PS3.
Considering Pokemon was on preorder multiple months in advance, wouldn't that be fairly normal? Or do you mean it's 50% higher than Pokemon was with one month left until release?
People on here are expecting desperately bad ps5 sales. So 5k to 10k a week I imagine. You think a cheaper ps4 will drop it even further?
With digital, ps plus/now, MTX it's no longer as important to abandon the current gen. Sony could sell a million extra ps4's in japan if the price was right. They'd make it back through the above and have a stronger eco system. They're obviously taking a global approach unfortunately
I agree, though if anything, Sony will most likely be the company of the three to "go 3rd party" or drop out of the gaming industry before Nintendo.
Sony got lucky because of bad launches from both Xbox One & Wii U. PS5 isn't going to be like PS4 will be in terms of larger marketshare, especially with the Switch & Xbox Series X coming around with the high price tag.
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Late adopters / budget consumers might not be the same people who spend money on ps plus or mtx. They might spend money on used games...
the problem Sony seems to be having is moving new product. for as many games are release, people ain't picking up a whole lot of them.
About 1000 yen higher than most other Musou games that I can see.
Wow, I'm not sure what has gotten into Japan this week but these numbers are pretty good.
Luigi DQ and MHW in particular.
Well, the 11th was a national holiday and it always helps. There is another national holiday on Monday 24th, that probably will help too.
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Ah thanks for that. So Scramble could have a softer than normal drop for wee 2 then. I feel like this one is carrying the hopes of two companies on it's shoulders.
Where's this coming from? Has there been a comment to that affect?
EDIT: Oh duh, you meant MysticGon's comment.
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I don't think that comment meant to imply that Koei Tecmo is on the ropes
First Day Sell-through {2020.02.20}
[PS4] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers # <RPG> (Atlus) (¥8.800) - 50%
[NSW] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers # <RPG> (Atlus) (¥8.800) - 70%
[PS4] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥3.980) - 40%
[NSW] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥3.980) - 50%
[PS4] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers # <RPG> (Atlus) (¥8.800) - 50%
[NSW] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers # <RPG> (Atlus) (¥8.800) - 70%
[PS4] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥3.980) - 40%
[NSW] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥3.980) - 50%
The amount of Sony is doomed has been taken to the next level now
LOL, people have always been biased against Nintendo while always praising Sony.
The blog is fearing shortages, yeah.
He also points LTD sales might be similar to P5R.
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2020 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
01./00. [NSW] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix # <ACT> (Sega) {2020.02.13} (¥5.990)
02./03. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
03./01. [PS4] Granblue Fantasy: Versus # <FTG> (Cygames) {2020.02.06} (¥6.980)
04./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
05./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
06./05. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
07./08. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
08./06. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480)
09./00. [PS4] Death end re;Quest 2 # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2020.02.13} (¥7.600)
10./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
Top 10
NSW - 8
PS4 - 2
01./00. [NSW] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix # <ACT> (Sega) {2020.02.13} (¥5.990)
02./03. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
03./01. [PS4] Granblue Fantasy: Versus # <FTG> (Cygames) {2020.02.06} (¥6.980)
04./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
05./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
06./05. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
07./08. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
08./06. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480)
09./00. [PS4] Death end re;Quest 2 # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2020.02.13} (¥7.600)
10./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
Top 10
NSW - 8
PS4 - 2
So if I understand this, both games sold more on PS4, but the sell-through is better on Switch? Switch being understimated again I see.
Did you say that because the Switch sell-through is 70% compared to the 50% of PS4? If so, remember that the retailers are the ones ordering the units. Sega doesn't choose how many copies should be distributed, the retailers do.
Sega will let retailers order as many copies as they themselves produce and outside of Mario and Sonic they have undershipped prety much every Switch release.
Nicolas Verlet, mais sur Switch on Twitter
“1000 exemplaires de Dreams vendus en première semaine au Japon 😶”
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I don't know if this has been said before, but according to this french journalist, Dreams sold 993 units during its first week in Japan.
That's from Dengeki's top 50.Nicolas Verlet, mais sur Switch on Twitter
“1000 exemplaires de Dreams vendus en première semaine au Japon 😶”
I don't know if this has been said before, but according to this french journalist, Dreams sold 993 units during its first week in Japan.