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I'd say that most 4-5 years old know how to read at least hiragana and katakana.
Some are already learning english at that age.
Besides, first time I played pokemon, it was in english which I knew almost nothing of, and I only got stuck one time because I didn't know how to use HM's and had to ask to and older friend. Nowadays the games are much easier than the red/blue games
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So are you trying to argue that kids have never been a core component of Pokemon's demographic? Because that's objectively false.
Regardless, my definition of kid extends beyond age 6.
Usually the begging for a Switch happens months before the kid even knows about Labo. Do you think kids have no idea what Switch is? Its the next popular system and kids want it.
A diverse set of both serious and casual packages will make Labo a long seller. More serious stuff like Piano lessons or other instruments will sell like crazy. I hope Nintendo sees the potential in this and not leave it at casual software only.
I don't know a single child between ages 4-5 who can't read hiragana and katakana. Many 6 year olds can read the majority of the 80 kanji in 1st grade as well as other random kanji which appear frequently.
According to this:
https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/education.html
They start learning at 6 on the school.
That is not what i said. I believe the current fanbase is mostly the old fans.
That is why I said I was thinking of little kids under 7, which I believe is one of the main targets.
The numbers say otherwise. If the fanbase is mostly old fans you will be looking at FF numbers instead.
I assumed that because of these consistent numbers:
Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire 16.22 million
Pokémon Diamond & Pearl 17.67 million
Pokémon Black & White 15.64 million
Pokémon X & Y 16.26 million
Pokémon Sun & Moon 16.05 million
Also, the amount of preorders are some of the highest I've seen.
And as I said before, the only people I know who play the series are some old fans.
This is some Matrix reference or what lol
Personal anecdotes don't really mean anything at all.
The fanbase is steady. I.E. New people come in old people go out.
Consistent numbers in a long running series indicate a series that is able to constantly renew their demographic, rather than an entire aging demographic which continues to support it. Especially with disposable entertainment, as a current demographic ages, more will drop out of it. Very high numbers staying the same mean that they are constantly able to attract new younger audiences to replace the ones who are leaving.
You lied to meeee lol
https://medium.com/@sm_app_intel/po...g-player-mix-of-a-smash-hit-game-b9099d5527b7
https://medium.com/@sm_app_intel/po...g-player-mix-of-a-smash-hit-game-b9099d5527b7
That, and it looks like kids did not take the survey either, skewing the result.
I don't think Labo is the kind of "game" that people will rush to pre order lol.
It will sell ok at launch then if it's good, word of mouth will carry it to millions sold.
If it doesn't sell, at least Nintendo can recycle it.
We love an environment conscious corporation.
It will sell ok at launch then if it's good, word of mouth will carry it to millions sold.
If it doesn't sell, at least Nintendo can recycle it.
We love an environment conscious corporation.
Well, i know for a fact that this can't be too accurate because i know a lot of 12 or less who played the game. ;P
Pokemon Go is definitely played by older audiences, many of which aren't necessarily Pokemon fans or have any consoles to play other Pokemon on. My mom plays Pokemon Go pretty obsessively, and she has never played a Pokemon game in her life. Me and sis are constantly baffled, but she has her own community of friends who play it and seems pretty happy. It's weird!
Ummm........i dont know here but kids nowadays is damn smart lol. Even 2 year old kids is usually able to talk quite well.
Go is different beast lol. It is the game that brought many older fans back to Pokemon. The mainline is combination of both old and new fanbase coming and go.
That has nothing to do with your original claim:
Pokémon Go, is a f2p title that has been downloaded 600+ million times on a platform that the majority of young kids wouldn't own.
Meanwhile, the following is what's sales related:
My favourite moment of the craze must have been seeing an 80/90 year old woman in McDonalds playing Pokémon Go on an iPad attached to one of those bag-on-wheels things old people have.
Pretending that those people are also the Pokémon audience on DS, Switch or watching the anime is ridiculous lol. It's kids under 12.
Maybe just the mobile gaming demographic.
It's a social thing I feel. The game fits the social lifestyle of women more than men. Social expectations, etc. There are exceptions but women are more likely to feel open to hanging out with female friends and just chatting/chilling while playing a social app, than a guy hanging out with male friends. At younger demographics the gender likely matters less, but older demographics are more self-conscious about that stuff.
Ok Thank youuuu lol
Now, serious question.
Do we have any data about the demographics of the Gba, DS and 3DS games??
Social lifestyle of women? Your explanation seems a bit exaggerated if not stereotypical.
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June 28th for Ys VIII (Switch) in Japan. 6 980 Yen, includes DLC.
http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/8593
http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/8593
Societal perceptions are stereotypical though. That's the point. It affects how people behave in social context. Do you think we live in a society where what men and women do are seen equally and that no one's preference is defined by how they see others act and what they think people expect of them?
You can google it yourself lol. If you can find that Go numbers, u should be able to find the Pokemon demographic numbers which Iwata talked about in the past.^_^
I can't remember where i read the article but it is mention that female is more accepting toward newer trends especially social trend and they are often the one who stays on that platform longer than the males.
Instagram is right now easily filled by many female social demographics.
The PS4 version was 6800 yen + tax at launch. The NSW version includes the DLC.
And we can't say charging full price for late ports is something weird for the Japanese market. I'm not surprised at this price and I doubt it will have a very negative impact on the sales.
Planet Alpha by Planet Alpha ApS (Team 17) for PC (Q3 2018), PS 4, Xbox One, Switch, using Unreal Engine.
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Two more Switch games:
- Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai -Library Party- (Visual Novel), July 26th, 6 800 Yen
http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/8599
- Lode Runner: Legacy (platform/puzzle), Spring, 1 112 Yen. Already available on Steam, btw.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201803/13153367.html
After seeing how good The Snack World looks on Switch, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up on 3DS + Switch, with 3DS as the 'base' platform.
It will mostly be bought by people who want the game on Switch over other platforms, the real question is just how big that group is because they'll account for the vast majority of sales. I don't think there'll be many people discovering the game now that it's on Switch, at least in Japan. In the west, on the other hand, game should do well if games like Disgaea 5 and co. are anything to go by.
- Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai -Library Party- (Visual Novel), July 26th, 6 800 Yen
http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/8599
- Lode Runner: Legacy (platform/puzzle), Spring, 1 112 Yen. Already available on Steam, btw.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201803/13153367.html
After seeing how good The Snack World looks on Switch, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up on 3DS + Switch, with 3DS as the 'base' platform.
It will mostly be bought by people who want the game on Switch over other platforms, the real question is just how big that group is because they'll account for the vast majority of sales. I don't think there'll be many people discovering the game now that it's on Switch, at least in Japan. In the west, on the other hand, game should do well if games like Disgaea 5 and co. are anything to go by.
Comgnet Pre-order Comparisons For Resetera: World
As of March 13th, 2018
[NSW] Kirby: Star Allies - 118pt
[3DS] Kirby: Triple Deluxe - 188pt
[3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot - 60pt
[PS4] Super Robot Wars X - 55pt + 32pt = 87pt
[PSV] Super Robot Wars X - 45pt + 20pt = 65pt
[PS4] Super Robot Wars V - 62pt + 32pt = 94pt
[PSV] Super Robot Wars V - 40pt + 30pt = 70pt
[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4 - 18pt + 13pt = 31pt
[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles Remastered - <= 17pt
[NSW] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm for Nintendo Switch - 17pt
[PSV] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm - <= 17pt
[PS4] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm HD Edition - 15pt
[NSW] Attack on Titan 2 - 20pt
[PSV] Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom - 24pt*
[NSW] PriPara: All Idol Perfect Stage - <= 11pt
[3DS] PriPara Mezase! Idol Grand Prix No.1! - 25pt
[3DS] PriPara Mezameyo! Megami no Dress Design - 18pt
[3DS] Idol Time PriPara: Yume All-Star Live! - <= 15pt
[NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - <= 11pt
[WIU] Hyrule Warriors - 18pt + 15pt = 33pt
[3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends - 25pt
Note: in the past few years, the ratio between preorder points and thousands of units sold have costantly decreased, and the past few months saw several examples of a much lower ratio than usual for several games (i.e. more actual thousands sold per preorder point), considering their platforms and genres (The Last Guardian, Poochy and Yoshi's Wolly World, Nioh, Final Fantasy XV as the first major examples).
* the original Attack on Titan from KT displayed a very high actual sales / final COMG preorder pts ratio: the Vita version ended with 30pts (regular version), the PS4 one with 24pts (regular version) at best, buth both SKUs debuted at over 60,000 copies in their first week. This might've happened due to advertising impacting on-the-spot purchases; there is no certainty we're going to see a similar phenomenon with AoT2, which means we could see a lower purchases / preorders ratio.
Last week's edition
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5238068/
As of March 13th, 2018
[NSW] Kirby: Star Allies - 118pt
[3DS] Kirby: Triple Deluxe - 188pt
[3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot - 60pt
[PS4] Super Robot Wars X - 55pt + 32pt = 87pt
[PSV] Super Robot Wars X - 45pt + 20pt = 65pt
[PS4] Super Robot Wars V - 62pt + 32pt = 94pt
[PSV] Super Robot Wars V - 40pt + 30pt = 70pt
[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4 - 18pt + 13pt = 31pt
[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles Remastered - <= 17pt
[NSW] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm for Nintendo Switch - 17pt
[PSV] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm - <= 17pt
[PS4] Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm HD Edition - 15pt
[NSW] Attack on Titan 2 - 20pt
[PSV] Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom - 24pt*
[NSW] PriPara: All Idol Perfect Stage - <= 11pt
[3DS] PriPara Mezase! Idol Grand Prix No.1! - 25pt
[3DS] PriPara Mezameyo! Megami no Dress Design - 18pt
[3DS] Idol Time PriPara: Yume All-Star Live! - <= 15pt
[NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - <= 11pt
[WIU] Hyrule Warriors - 18pt + 15pt = 33pt
[3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends - 25pt
Note: in the past few years, the ratio between preorder points and thousands of units sold have costantly decreased, and the past few months saw several examples of a much lower ratio than usual for several games (i.e. more actual thousands sold per preorder point), considering their platforms and genres (The Last Guardian, Poochy and Yoshi's Wolly World, Nioh, Final Fantasy XV as the first major examples).
* the original Attack on Titan from KT displayed a very high actual sales / final COMG preorder pts ratio: the Vita version ended with 30pts (regular version), the PS4 one with 24pts (regular version) at best, buth both SKUs debuted at over 60,000 copies in their first week. This might've happened due to advertising impacting on-the-spot purchases; there is no certainty we're going to see a similar phenomenon with AoT2, which means we could see a lower purchases / preorders ratio.
Last week's edition
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5238068/
FWIW, the aging audience of Pokémon has been brought up by GF at least twice and one of their aims has been to bring back younger gamers. Which I think they're terrible at but alas...
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2014: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/01/pokemons-audience-growing-older/
2017: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/290666/Nintendo_says_Pokemon_players_are_now_older_than_ever.php
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2014: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/01/pokemons-audience-growing-older/
2017: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/290666/Nintendo_says_Pokemon_players_are_now_older_than_ever.php
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This is developed by O-Two, same studio who did Spelunker World (PS4/Vita) and Spelunker Party (NSW). I guess the latter did well enough for Tozai to start selfpublishing on Switch. Hopefully they decide to port R-Type Dimensions too.
With the way they design their games, you'd think they're trying to dump their older audience than accommodate them as well
From that Siliconera chart, it still shows the majority of Pokemon audience is still young audience though.
Very true but the Gamasutra article from 2017 shows that they haven't been able to revert a trend. I don't think the franchise is in dire straits or anything, not with the 16m it pulls on every mainline release, but GameFreak, TPC and Nintendo are thinking very long term here. Let's not forget that Pokémon is nearing its 20th anniversary in the West.
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