The pad issue isn't that bad. I used 6 button for MK and SF mostly, and I don't want to play these versions ever again. SoR3 and Comix Zone were slightly better with it, you were essentially using shortcuts, but not unplayable with 3.
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Megadrive mini PAL version to have two 3 buttons pads (instead of 6 buttons like the JP one), no single pad option either - 70£/80€
- Thread starter Eolz
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List of 6-button pad compatible titles:
Mega Drive
Mega Drive
- Aerobiz Supersonic
- Art of Fighting
- AWS Pro Moves Soccer
- Ballz
- Batman Forever
- Beyond Oasis
- Boogerman: A Pick and Flick Adventure
- Brutal: Paws of Fury
- Chou Kyuukai Miracle Nine
- Clay Fighter
- Coack K College Basketball
- College Football's National Championship
- College Football's National Championship II
- Comix Zone
- Contra: Hard Corps
- Cutthroat Island
- Davis Cup Tennis
- Desert Demolition Starring Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote
- Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls
- Dragon Ball Z: Buyuu Retsuden
- Duke Nukem 3D
- Dyna Brothers 2
- Eternal Champions
- F1 World Championship Edition
- Fatal Fury 2
- Fever Pitch Soccer
- FIFA Soccer 96
- FIFA Soccer 97
- FIFA Soccer 98: Road to the World Cup
- Garfield: Caught in the Act
- Gouketsuji Ichizoku (Primal Instinct)
- Greatest Heavyweights
- International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
- Jammit
- Judge Dreadd
- Justice League Task Force
- King of the Monsters 2
- Lemmings 2: The Tribes
- Lord Monarch: Tokoton Sentou Densetsu
- Marsupilami
- Mega Turrican
- Midway Arcade's Greatest Hits
- MiG-29 Fighter Pilot
- Mortal Kombat
- Mortal Kombat 3
- Mortal Kombat II
- NBA Action '94
- NBA Action '95 Starring David Robinson
- NBA Live 96
- NCAA Final Four Basketball
- NFL '95
- Nightmare Circus
- Phantom 2040
- Pier Solar and the Great Architects
- Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
- Primal Rage
- Ranger-X
- Rise of the Robots
- Samurai Shodown
- Saturday Night Slam Masters
- Shaq Fu
- Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
- Skeleton Krew
- Spider-Man & Venom: Maximum Carnage
- Spider-Man & Venom: Separation Anxiety
- Street Fighter II': Special Champion Edition
- Streer Racer
- Streets of Rage 3
- Sub-Terrania
- Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
- TechnoClash
- The Death and Return of Superman
- The Great Circus Mystery Starring Mickey & Minnie
- The Lion King
- The Lost Vikings
- ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron
- True Lies
- Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
- Urban Strike
- Virtua Fighter 2
- Virtua Racing
- VR Troopers
- WeaponLord
- World Heroes
- World Series Baseball '95
- World Series Baseball '96
- WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game
- WWF Raw
- WWF Royal Rumble
- Yuu Yuu Hakusho: Makyou Toitsusen
- Zombies Ate My Neighbors
- B.C. Racers
- Battlecorps
- Brutal: Paws of Fury
- Eternal Champions: Challenge From the Dark Side
- Fatal Fury Special
- Mortal Kombat
- Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
- Samurai Shodown
- Soul Star
- Wing Commander
- WWF Rage in the Cage
- B.C. Racers
- Darxide
- Doom
- Golf Magazine: 36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples
- Metal Head
- Mortal Kombat II
- Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
- Primal Rage
- Sangokushi IV
- Shadow Squadron
- Spider-Man: Web of Fire
- Star Wars Arcade
- Stellar Assault
- Virtua Fighter
- Virtua Racing Deluxe
- WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game
I know it's not a popular opinion to have, but I prefer the three-button controller for most Genesis games. I even prefer it for the Mortal Kombat games, aside from the fact that you can't seem to perform Kung Lao's second fatality in Mortal Kombat II with the three-button controller.
What are the chances that this will work?
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I was curious about that myself, here's the list according to segaretro.org:
- AWS Pro Moves Soccer
- Art of Fighting
- Batman Forever (Mega Drive)
- Brutal: Paws of Fury
- Chou Kyuukai Miracle Nine
- College Football's National Championship
- College Football's National Championship II
- Comix Zone
- Davis Cup Tennis
- Desert Demolition Starring Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote
- Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls
- Dragon Ball Z: Buyuu Retsuden
- Duke Nukem 3D (Mega Drive)
- Dyna Brothers 2
- Eternal Champions
- Fatal Fury 2
- Fever Pitch Soccer
- Gouketsuji Ichizoku
- Greatest Heavyweights
- Justice League Task Force
- Lemmings 2: The Tribes
- Lord Monarch: Tokoton Sentou Densetsu
- Mega Turrican
- MiG-29 Fighter Pilot
- Mortal Kombat
- Mortal Kombat 3
- Mortal Kombat II
- NBA Action '94
- NBA Action '95 Starring David Robinson
- NFL '95
- Nightmare Circus
- Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
- Primal Rage
- Ranger-X
- Samurai Shodown
- Shaq Fu
- Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
- Street Fighter II': Special Champion Edition
- Streets of Rage 3
- Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
- The Death and Return of Superman
- The Great Circus Mystery Starring Mickey & Minnie
- The Lion King
- The Lost Vikings
- The Story of Thor: A Successor of the Light
- ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron
- True Lies
- Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
- Virtua Fighter 2 (Mega Drive)
- Virtua Racing
- WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game
- World Heroes
- World Series Baseball '95
- World Series Baseball '96 (Mega Drive)
- Yuu Yuu Hakusho: Makyou Toitsusen
That's a possibility, though I'm sure M2 could just force three-button mode in software or something to get around that. That said, I prefer the three-button controller, anyway.
I can understand being disappointed in getting just the 3-button controller but I don't get why some people consider it a deal breaker. They're not going to include anything that plays like shit with a 3-button, like Street Fighter II. And even though the original 6-button had a better d-pad than the 3-button, there's no reason for that to automatically be the case with the minis. It's unlikely the controllers will feel exactly like the originals.
What an unfortunate thing to wake up to this morning. The 6-button D-pads were the direct precursor to the Saturn pads, they were perfect and the less-bulky form factor of the controller was a plus too.
My hope is that the 8 button wired USB controllers that Retrobit recently released will be compatible with the Mini because they are officially licensed through Sega, but perhaps that's asking too much.
Nudged it down to confirmed games while some (if not all) of the rest have a high chance of making it in based on past Genesis collections / mini-systems. VF2 SO better not be there but since they're forcing Altered Beast down our throats again I feel like they want us to suffer... ~_~
I had a 3 and 6 button controller back in the day and the 6 button one overall was a straight upgrade even if most games didn't make use of the extra buttons, the dpad and buttons just felt much better. The placement of the Start button was also muuuuuch better. Plus all this talk of M2 magic and bonus features and whatnot, who's to say they aren't implimenting some neat use of the X/Y/Z buttons in the games on the collection that don't use 'em?
Wait, is it 6 buttons in North America??
I need that UMK3 and SSF2 fix, so this better have 6 buttons in NA.
Weird to have multiple source of manufacturing with completely different controller and parts. 3 button controller is only great for collectors who want both. I don't see any other use for it.
I need that UMK3 and SSF2 fix, so this better have 6 buttons in NA.
Weird to have multiple source of manufacturing with completely different controller and parts. 3 button controller is only great for collectors who want both. I don't see any other use for it.
As a SEGA kid this is really a non issue for me. I never had the 6-button controller growing up. It isn't the standard controller that came with the system so no game could expect you to have it.
All I want from SEGA is emulation on par with Nintendo's mini consoles. I know they can do it, the AGES versions of their games are great. Please put the effort in this time.
All I want from SEGA is emulation on par with Nintendo's mini consoles. I know they can do it, the AGES versions of their games are great. Please put the effort in this time.
If this uses the Mega Drive 2 three button pad design for the d-pad then this is a load of fuss over nothing: it's a great controller with a fantastic d-pad that rocks back and forth almost as well as the 6 button controller's.
If it's the three button controller from the first 4 years of the system's life then okay, that sucks.
If it's the three button controller from the first 4 years of the system's life then okay, that sucks.
Pretty much sums my position up. This is a nostalgia toy first and foremost - most will remember the 3 button pad. M2's involvement guarantees the quality of emulation.
Are they going to complete fuck this up by putting 50htz versions of the games on there?
Because that would be the nail in the coffin.
Because that would be the nail in the coffin.
Comix Zone use the 6 button pad and I'm pretty sure Gunstar Heroes make use of the extra buttons too.
I mean I spent most of my time with the PlayStation One without DualShock controllers and I still would've preferred that than the iconic controller without sticks on the PS Classic.
It's not a cheaper decision either, since they're now making different controllers separate from Japan. Like you already have a six button controller in the works and you're likely putting an option to toggle between regional differences anyways, why not just make one single SKU type controller wise.
You guys don't need to worry about the quality of the Mini. It's being developed by M2, so I can 100% guarantee that the emulation will be perfect.
If you want to check the quality of their ports, all you have to do is play any of the existing Sega Ages ports on 3DS and Switch.
I remember the edges being a bit 'sharp' on my 3 button's d-pad, back then I probably didn't care that much but I do remember thinking the 6 button one was much nicer just to hold in general (regardless of if the game needed 6 or not).
In the end, to me its baffling as to why Sega are releasing different ones in different countries, like, surely its more cost efficient to just manufacture 1 controller for everywhere? :\
Bad business decisions, they're really hitting that Sega nostalgia note I guess. :P
In the end, to me its baffling as to why Sega are releasing different ones in different countries, like, surely its more cost efficient to just manufacture 1 controller for everywhere? :\
Bad business decisions, they're really hitting that Sega nostalgia note I guess. :P
I'd prefer six button pads just 'cos, but I'm struggling to think of a game I'd actually want to play on this thing that'd make use of them.
Edit: Actually, I grew up with the 3-button, so I really don't mind. It would still be better for functionality if it had six.
Edit: Actually, I grew up with the 3-button, so I really don't mind. It would still be better for functionality if it had six.
Theory: The Japanese version will have 6-button games and the US version won't.
Out of that entire list these are probably the only ones people would really want that also have any slim chance of returning - and for a number of them the extra buttons are used for minor things like individual view change buttons. I'd bet on Comix Zone being the only game from that selection to be on this, Shinobi 3 wouldn't be picked over Revenge, SoR3 wouldn't be picked over SoR2, Virtua Racing would conflict with the Ages release and the rest rely on licensing.
Pretty disappointing for people looking for fighting games, but otherwise the missing buttons probably wouldn't even be usable with the western game lineup - and it is worth noting that the 6 button controller has compatibility issues with some 3 button games (such as Golden Axe II, Decap Attack and Forgotten Worlds) that may well be included.
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It's a picture of a regular MD. The website has a pic of the real MD mini and these are definitely USB ports:
http://megadrivemini.sega.com/
The original PlayStation controller without analog sticks was stock, that didn't make it any less dumb when Sony used that version for the PlayStation Classic. Most games could function without them, but there were titles that seriously benefited from them.
More importantly, in Sony's case they may not have done the R&D work to make the new version of the controller with analog sticks. Here, we know the 6-button version exists, we're just not getting it apparently.
That's another good point. In addition to the better dpad, buttons, and start button placement, 6 button one is more rounded an comfortable ta hold!
Mega fail. Look Segac West: theres a picture of a Genesis and classic Sonic on the box. THATS ALL YOU NEED TO FUEL NOSTALGIA. You should otherwise be presenting your system at its very best!It's 3 button for North America. WTF Sega?
What a fail.
Ah, that explains it.It's a picture of a regular MD. The website has a pic of the real MD mini and these are definitely USB ports:
http://megadrivemini.sega.com/