It varies per game but I've pre-loaded lots of games on Steam and on average, it takes me 15-20 minutes to decrypt. Admittedly, I have a pretty beefy PC so that's likely a factor.
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It varies per game but I've pre-loaded lots of games on Steam and on average, it takes me 15-20 minutes to decrypt. Admittedly, I have a pretty beefy PC so that's likely a factor.
Nope.
I'm lucky to have good internet speeds and a reliable connection, but there are many reasons others may not.
For a start "good" internet is usually more expensive - fibre here is more expensive than ADSL.
Fibre might not even be available in some places - I know it took years after fibre was "available" in my country before it arrived in my area, and I don't live very far from a major city.
If all ISPs in an area refuse to offer an internet service that can be considered "good", there's not much residents can do about it short of spending thousands and thousands on their own bespoke infrastructure.
It can't be instantly unlocked, because that would mean it would be hilariously easy to decrypt by yourself and people could crack the game before it's even out. Steam encryption has managed to prevent this perfectly.
Based on this post
Do pre-loaded Origin games get cracked all the time?
LMFAO. Since most traffic will go through the epic shit store. Babahha, they don't even believe that themselves. Man they live in a fart cloud.
Yeah, but that'd only be a problem if the executables were still included. It'd be relatively easy for Valve to implement an alternative pre-load system that delivers raw game data but withholds the executables associated with the app's launch configuration until the release state has changed to "released".
Edit: That's not to suggest the option not existing is the result of laziness. Rather, I'd guess the reason is the same as why there's no support for, say, automatic unlocks: an unnecessary overabundance of caution.
I believe that is how uplay preloads work.
Never had to decrypt anything there, just a small download at release.
Yeah. Battle.net, GOG, Origin, and I think even Bethesda.net, too.
No they don't because what Origin does with their preloads is actually pretty smart.
They let you download the full game(preload) except the main exes and few other small files. So when release days come that's all it needs to download and you're good to go.
It's way better and more practical then Valve's terrible and ancinet encryption.
It's strange that Steam is lagging behind in this department. I believe steam pre-loads have been available for quite a while now(Since the release of MKX I think, which was a disaster).
It resulted in FFXV being cracked several days before release though
That's on Square Enix for releasing the demo without any protection and a raw exe that's actually untoched.
Nothing to do with preloads.
Honest question: Wouldn't this cause problems with people datamining the game and spoiling things, especially for games that come out day and date with the console versions?
I also hate Steam's preloads btw. I just download the games at launch since that's faster for me but that's not an option for everyone and it sucks ass.
That's because Square Enix was stupid enough to put an unprotected exe in the demo that worked in the full game
It's a possibility. It deppends from game to game. Preloads are usually available a week before the launch and by that time there's already videos out due to console copies being leaked in god knows what country. Happens with every big game.
RE2 also got datamined based off a single demo alone. DMC5 is also not getting a demo on PC for this sole reason I'd reckon.
Itsuno really wants the game plot keept under wraps till launch.
So er, what's cheapest place in the UK for PC ? Retail copies seemingly dont exist any more (which usually are about £10 cheaper than digital).
UWP games aren't being decrypted at all, resulting in locked down unmoddable games. I prefer Steams "ancient" approach over this to be honest...
Security and customer service is not very good, after making one to try fortnite, someone got the account the next day
terrible website disguised as a program with terrible support, terrible prices, no features, and no offline mode.
amazing for publishers asuming they somehow manage to sell more than 12 copies worlwide, terrible for customers.
It does though. This is what it shows when you try to start the launcher without an internet connection:
If you click "Skip sign in", it'll let you launch games that are installed.
EDIT: Okay nevermind, there are games for which you need to be signed in to launch them, which is fucked. Don't know if it'll be necessary for Metro Exodus but this is something Epic shouldn't be doing at all.
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It's a good thing then that there is a third option which doesn't lock down games, doesn't need time to decrypt pre-loads and is secure by leaving out critical parts of the software.
Yeah, Epic's CEG (Steam DRM) equivalent is essentially always-online DRM.
Now that many people (who buy games) will attempt to use EGS for the first time this is about to get very interesting. I bet the ones who praised EGS for low cuts will be the first ones to turn on EGS because of various problems and complete lack of features.It does though. This is what it shows when you try to start the launcher without an internet connection:
If you click "Skip sign in", it'll let you launch games that are installed.
EDIT: Okay nevermind, there are games for which you need to be signed in to launch them, which is fucked. Don't know if it'll be necessary for Metro Exodus but this is something Epic shouldn't be doing at all.
Anecdotally, I've been using the EGS store for a few months now (Hades, Subnautica etc - I didn't ever play Fortnite on PC but I did install it about 18 months ago for Unreal Tournament) and personally getting along with it fine. It's definitely missing forums, universal controller support etc but I use tons of other launchers where I don't use those either (GOG, Windows Store, uPlay, Origin). They might have them but I don't know because I've never looked. For a user like me the EGS has booted my games fine. No problems yet.
It does though. This is what it shows when you try to start the launcher without an internet connection:
If you click "Skip sign in", it'll let you launch games that are installed.
EDIT: Okay nevermind, there are games for which you need to be signed in to launch them, which is fucked. Don't know if it'll be necessary for Metro Exodus but this is something Epic shouldn't be doing at all.
Right. Now to be fair, you can launch Super Meat Boy by clicking directly on the exe, so there's an off-chance that Metro Exodus may not use the launcher as DRM, either, but it's not something I want to have to worry about every time I buy a game.
This is decided by the game developers, if i remember correctly Galyonkin said so somewhere on his Twitter.It does though. This is what it shows when you try to start the launcher without an internet connection:
If you click "Skip sign in", it'll let you launch games that are installed.
EDIT: Okay nevermind, there are games for which you need to be signed in to launch them, which is fucked. Don't know if it'll be necessary for Metro Exodus but this is something Epic shouldn't be doing at all.
While I agree with you, remember that pirates could play FFXV much earlier (albeit with some bugs), by using Origins decrypted data and the benchmark exe. It doesnt bother me, but I assure you that it bothered Square Enix.
Sure, there may be situations where an encrypted pre-load is still preferable. Protecting against the possibility of "day zero" piracy because of a benchmark or demo executable is indeed one such example, and precluding pre-release data mining is another. That's why I said "alternative option". ;)
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I know, there are several games that don't use the Epic Store Launcher as DRM at all. But just because developers can choose to use it rather than it being required doesn't mean I can't be frustrated at Epic for offering it as a form of DRM to begin with.
Metro Exodus uses Denuvo, so it's almost certain it uses Epic's DRM.
Ah, well there ya go.
I'm not going to be mad a developers for using the Epic launcher as a form of DRM, otherwise I'd have to be mad at everyone that uses Steam for the same thing. I just don't like the always-online aspect. I know Epic's transitioning from being a simple games launcher to a full-fledged store, but that's one of the first things they should work on fixing -- and it may be, I honestly don't know.
What sucks is that Denuvo games are getting cracked almost around a week now. Paying customers will suffer as always.
So first they said that steam and epic versions will be treated the same and now steam isn't getting the preload option? So what if they are lying about updates and patches as well.
Especially sucks for me bcz I have slow internet and I wanted to play it this weekend(very busy next week) but I guess I won't be able to play it till next weekend now.
Especially sucks for me bcz I have slow internet and I wanted to play it this weekend(very busy next week) but I guess I won't be able to play it till next weekend now.
You have any way of downloading it somewhere else? If so you can backup and restore, though you have to download some stuff but not the whole thing.
No way of downloading. Even if preload is available on epic then I don't think it will be compatible with steam since steam preload is encrypted.
I meant via steam..xD
You can probably find a way to mooch something from somewhere probably.