Yeah It was like +$3000 extra a month for 4 months. I think she did porn for 3 months. I guess that explains why some pornstars make hundreds of videos.
Edit: Itd be different If they could at least get some ad revenue
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Yeah It was like +$3000 extra a month for 4 months. I think she did porn for 3 months. I guess that explains why some pornstars make hundreds of videos.
She says she made around $12,000 (£9,900) during her time performing and "never saw a penny again after that".
There is still an active website under her name, which she says she doesn't own or profit from.
"All I've wanted these last years is for the site to be changed from my direct name," she says.
The Lebanon-born performer opened up about how difficult it is to move on after porn, as she found out when attempting to pursue a career in sports punditry.
"It gets me so down when I get 'no's' from companies who don't want to work with me because of my past, but I also thought I would never find a man like my fiancé," she said.
Although Mia's career was short-lived, it wasn't without controversy. Her most famous scene shows her performing sex acts whilst wearing a hijab.
"Instantly that it was posted, it was like wildfire. ISIS sent me death threats, they sent me a Google Maps image of my apartment.
"I stayed in a hotel for two weeks after that because fear really set in."
With almost 17 million followers on her Instagram page, Mia often receives offensive messages from trolls.
"I don't sweat the small stuff anymore, things people say don't offend me. I always think 'OK, but are you ISIS? Are you going to kill me? No, move on'."
She came in, had a ton of amateur-style scenes, a few scenes with a single well-known male performer (JMac, before she became famous), and expected the payoff to be super high?
It's porn. You gotta put the work in before you start making Nicolette Shea/Alexis Fawx/Madison Ivy money.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
She can't really decide which side of the fence she wants to be on, and she comes across as a bit unhinged.
And as someone mentioned earlier, she wasn't exactly that good or exciting. She could deepthroat, but looked uninterested, and one of the only scenes she's really good in is that one with JMac, and that's because he's a workhorse who carries lesser performers to a watchable match...err....scene.
I told you, porn is like Pro Wrestling.
But considering the work has probably been watched by hundreds of millions of people it's still low. She got fucked by the contact, you can bet others made a fuck load more than 12K from her work and probably still are.
But considering the work has probably been watched by hundreds of millions of people it's still low. She got fucked by the contact, you can bet others made a fuck load more than 12K from her work and probably still are.
Because she got fuck all in the grand scheme of things directly from her work. How is it even a question? She got fucked by a shit contract.
I get why she wasn't paid that well during her brief time in porn, but fuck not getting royalties from the studios profiting off of her is completely fucked up. She should be compensated for that. Porn actresses and actors should have way better contracts.
Because she got fuck all in the grand scheme of things directly from her work. How is it even a question? She got fucked by a shit contract.
Oh for sure, she could have been a billionaire by now. She got fucked bad.But considering the work has probably been watched by hundreds of millions of people it's still low. She got fucked by the contact, you can bet others made a fuck load more than 12K from her work and probably still are.
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Don't you feel they should get royalties? You're practically saying "the system is like this right now, lets not even change it for the better".Why? Not even mega-stars in Hollywood get royalties off of super-blockbusters unless you're a big name, especially if you're a newcomer. You think Tom Holland saw a cent of those billion dollars made from the latest Spider-Man? Mia was an amateur actress, there was no guarantee her videos would take off when she shot them. She was paid accordingly. That she later became famous is beside the fact.
Also, how would royalties even work? It's not like people are out there buying DVDs anymore, they're either streaming through PornHub or have a subscription to some site. So, how would you calculate royalties? The number of clicks on her video? What about when the person that shot the scene actually goes on to sell it to a bigger site, is she supposed to get a portion of that sale? Or royalties from the new site?
No one is getting royalties on anything starting out.
She came in, had a ton of amateur-style scenes, a few scenes with a single well-known male performer (JMac, before she became famous), and expected the payoff to be super high?
It's porn. You gotta put the work in before you start making Nicolette Shea/Alexis Fawx/Madison Ivy money.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
She can't really decide which side of the fence she wants to be on, and she comes across as a bit unhinged.
And as someone mentioned earlier, she wasn't exactly that good or exciting. She could deepthroat, but looked uninterested, and one of the only scenes she's really good in is that one with JMac, and that's because he's a workhorse who carries lesser performers to a watchable match...err....scene.
I told you, porn is like Pro Wrestling.
Wasn't she in the industry for less then 6 months? I mean, it's pretty good pay for the time she worked. It's not fair she doesn't get compensation from dvd,streaming sales but at the same time, I guess it's industry wide problem for newbies. Time to form an union.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
It is a rap term stemming from the song Renegade by Jay Z featuring Eminem whereby Eminem outrapped Jay on the track. This is then mentioned in the diss song 'Ether' by Nas and well...became part of the lexicon on the internet.
Essentially its shorthand for a guest being better than the main attraction.
She came in, had a ton of amateur-style scenes, a few scenes with a single well-known male performer (JMac, before she became famous), and expected the payoff to be super high?
It's porn. You gotta put the work in before you start making Nicolette Shea/Alexis Fawx/Madison Ivy money.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
She can't really decide which side of the fence she wants to be on, and she comes across as a bit unhinged.
And as someone mentioned earlier, she wasn't exactly that good or exciting. She could deepthroat, but looked uninterested, and one of the only scenes she's really good in is that one with JMac, and that's because he's a workhorse who carries lesser performers to a watchable match...err....scene.
I told you, porn is like Pro Wrestling.
The onus is on her for how she negotiated her contract. Given she was in the industry for ~3 months, and frankly didn't really blow up until her Hijab video that was at the tail of her career, I'm not surprised that's all she made. She was a new performer in an international industry comprised of thousands of entertainers, whose fame exploded long after she'd quit porn. Her initial leverage would have been horrible, and she probably started working for peanuts like many businesses do while they hope to gain exposure/clients/momentum.Its not good pay at all considering the the amount of revenue she generated for various companies.
They all deserve streaming royalties
Not really worth the damage to reputation though when you're trying to build a career after porn.
Im actually not familiar with the death threats. Whats all that about?Side-bar: renegade was Eminem's song with Royce da 5'9. Jay bought the song, but couldn't keep up on a technical level ... (Though his verses were still dope.)
This is a terrible take.
Imagine being one of the most popular adult film actresses on the planet, years after leaving the industry, dealing with death threats, consistently dealing with sexism and slut-shaming when trying to find a new career, and amassing a grand total of 12 grand for your troubles.
You really wanna act like she's crazy for being upset?
Her most famous porn scene, and the one that skyrocketed her whole career, is of her performing in a hijab. Understandably, many muslims took extreme offense to it.Im actually not familiar with the death threats. Whats all that about?
Ah, shit, I had no idea.Her most famous porn scene, and the one that skyrocketed her whole career, is of her performing in a hijab. Understandably, many muslims took extreme offense to it.
I mean a quick google shows her net worth is 2 million dollars or more. I know google results etc can be stupid, but this is sensationalist as fuck in order to increase her value again by getting her name out there. Is porn exploitative? absolutely, but it's absolutely possible to make fucking bank doing it as well.
I have no doubt it affects your hireability in some ways, but she's also not going and trying to get a 9-5 like the clickbait headline would kind of frame it, she's an influencer and is living a pretty good life, she's talking about opportunities she never would've had in the first place if not for the fame that porn brought her (mainstream acting roles, etc, which are possible but I'm sure harder as that kind of actress, look at Sasha Grey or traci lords though - they did the same thing, leverage their fame into more mainstream popularity, even if niche in some ways still).
She came in, had a ton of amateur-style scenes, a few scenes with a single well-known male performer (JMac, before she became famous), and expected the payoff to be super high?
It's porn. You gotta put the work in before you start making Nicolette Shea/Alexis Fawx/Madison Ivy money.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
She can't really decide which side of the fence she wants to be on, and she comes across as a bit unhinged.
And as someone mentioned earlier, she wasn't exactly that good or exciting. She could deepthroat, but looked uninterested, and one of the only scenes she's really good in is that one with JMac, and that's because he's a workhorse who carries lesser performers to a watchable match...err....scene.
I told you, porn is like Pro Wrestling.
No it's not. She worked 3 months and left the industry before thinking about capitalizing on her fame like other mega stars do. That was her choice. Instead she tried to parlay her fame into a sports commentating career when nobody was interested. She could earn millions now if she wanted to.That is abysmal, considering that she is one of the most well-known adult film actors.
I know, but the system is fucked . Getting 12 grand for staring in what is likely a multi million making film is just awful. She should have a way to renegotiate payment, like how some book author have managed, after the fact it was a mega hit. The fact 3rd parties are still bringing in cash for her work is extra fucked, but as you said I'm sure that's not easy to track, so probably not a whole lot she could do, outside of trying to sue the sites that host it.Why? Not even mega-stars in Hollywood get royalties off of super-blockbusters unless you're a big name, especially if you're a newcomer. You think Tom Holland saw a cent of those billion dollars made from the latest Spider-Man? Mia was an amateur actress, there was no guarantee her videos would take off when she shot them. She was paid accordingly. That she later became famous is beside the fact.
Also, how would royalties even work? It's not like people are out there buying DVDs anymore, they're either streaming through PornHub or have a subscription to some site. So, how would you calculate royalties? The number of clicks on her video? What about when the person that shot the scene actually goes on to sell it to a bigger site, is she supposed to get a portion of that sale? Or royalties from the new site?
No one is getting royalties on anything starting out.
Ok, I just did this - I asked four people who are unaware of who she is the following questions:Mia is clever and does that all the time. Nothing new - it's the same thing when she gets mad that people interview her and say she did some great porn....what else has she done? Except for her sensational Twitch streams, articles on the web or this here for example? She gets a shit ton of money from her followers so she does everything right.
She knows exactly what she wants to be and she already does everything to be who she wants to be. She said so herself on Twitch a few times. But ler her dress how she likes dude.
It's not that she expected a huge payoff, it's that everyone else expected her to have made bank considering how popular she is/was. She's letting everyone know she didn't make as much as they think.She came in, had a ton of amateur-style scenes, a few scenes with a single well-known male performer (JMac, before she became famous), and expected the payoff to be super high?
It's porn. You gotta put the work in before you start making Nicolette Shea/Alexis Fawx/Madison Ivy money.
I also find it quite humorous that she goes on a radio talk show, flips out when they mention she was a porn star and ends the interview, as if she was famous or well-known for anything else, yet does these interviews dressed the way she is.
She can't really decide which side of the fence she wants to be on, and she comes across as a bit unhinged.
And as someone mentioned earlier, she wasn't exactly that good or exciting. She could deepthroat, but looked uninterested, and one of the only scenes she's really good in is that one with JMac, and that's because he's a workhorse who carries lesser performers to a watchable match...err....scene.
I told you, porn is like Pro Wrestling.
What does getting "renegade'd" mean?She wasn't even that good. Only had one dope scene. That haram af one with her and her 'mom' and the other lady Renegade'd her in that scene too
So? If she go back to porn now she can make millions. It's not a business you can make money with a short time span and short investment, not unlike the show business.
It's not that she expected a huge payoff, it's that everyone else expected her to have made bank considering how popular she is/was. She's letting everyone know she didn't make as much as they think.
"It gets me so down when I get 'no's' from companies who don't want to work with me because of my past
One question I have, if she wants to move away from her known time as a porn star, why does she still go by her porn star name? You'd think that would be one of the first to change.
It's not her website, she makes nothing from it. There's a post at the top of this page talking about it.Or maybe shutting down her website.
If she continues this...whatever it is she's doing, I can only see it resulting in her coming back for a highly-promoted Brazzers scene or something.
The pieces just aren't fitting the puzzle, and I definitely wouldn't be surprised if it was all a giant leverage tactic to get a huge payday down the line.
Don't you feel they should get royalties? You're practically saying "the system is like this right now, lets not even change it for the better".
Got it, thanks.It's not her website, she makes nothing from it. There's a post at the top of this page talking about it.
Ok, I just did this - I asked four people who are unaware of who she is the following questions:
1.) ok, if you saw this woman *shows picture of the twitter posts from the OP*, what would you think is her job?
Man 1: "Porn star"
Man 2: " Looks like the beginning of a Brazzers scene"
Woman 1: "Whoa, porn."
Woman 2: "Model, but she's dressed like it's a porn scene"
2.) If you were a former porn star and you were doing on-camera interviews and specifically did not want to me known as a former porn star, would you dress that way?
Man 1: "probably not. She knows what she's doing"
Man 2: "hahaha"
Woman 1: "She should probably wear a blouse. That's just a bra and jacket."
Woman 2: "It doesn't matter, she's hot."
*had no idea how to reply to that*
I dunno, maybe you could ask some people you know those questions, see what you come up with.
I definitely love her outfit, personally. She's pretty and knows how flaunt it, but as someone who is supposedly trying to leave that part of herself behind..well, I'll leave it at that.
On top of that, her website is still up and fully functional, scenes and all. Doesn't she own and operate that?