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Michael Cohen testifies on Capitol Hill (over)
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She's not responsible for any of her questioning from today?
Don't know where to find a complete summary of the hearing but CNN has an article highlighting the biggest revelations.
She most certainly collaborated with other members, what good is a committee if everyone operates in a silo.
Point being though is if she says something difficult to contort as idiotic as a talking point then the best they can do is say cleary she couldn't have come up with these questions.
I totally misread your post, I thought you were saying this, not that you were saying it would be their talking point, my bad.
Anyone just popping in, I highly recommend at least watching Cohen's opening and closing statements as well as Cumming's closing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0TO0yU834&feature=youtu.be&t=8672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0TO0yU834&feature=youtu.be&t=8672
NPR streamed the entire thing, depending on your local station so there's always that. For summaries they have very limited time slots with lots of other important things to cover, so unfortunately short soundbites work best to convey the entire context of the situation to viewers. Also it's hard for radio since people are constantly tuning in and out so doing an extended session like this doesn't do a good job of providing enough context to help them understand what's going on, without which many of the benefits of the extended clip are lost.
I don't disagree, but radio in particular is difficult to make things like that clip work. They didn't need to invite fucking Jim Jordan for an interview though, jfc just don't invite pos liars like him. You don't need to have a republican perspective on everything for "balance" when all they do is yell and lie every time
Meadows was simply playing as loose and fast with the actual policy as he could, to try to get a gotcha soundbite for Fox News that no one would bother to properly fact-check. He didn't seem to really care if it were just foreign governments or foreign companies or some combination, just as long as it was "foreign" and Cohen didn't acknowledge it properly.
When I think the Republicans wanted to get rid of Bill Clinton because he had sex wih an intern. And with a "straight face", they want to protect Donald Trump today...
I'd imagine that was the plan- have other people ask preliminary questions for her to play off of, and then have the one everyone's going to pay the most attention to regardless take the job of tying it all together and shoving the proverbial knife in.
I saw the same thing from the endless supply of fucking lemmings on twitter. Eventually, they'll have to pivot to saying everything she says comes off a teleprompter like they did with Obama.
the part that stings for me, when meadows brought up that woman, is that she willingly put herself in that position. She really believes she isn't a token PoC.
And that's sad. All she has to do is view the make up of the Republican side, and view the make up of the democrat side. There's a reason why the Republican side was all pretty much white men and women.
I was utterly dismayed by that too. I could not fathom why she would want to be a part of that charade. I would not allow anyone to parade me like a prop for a speech.
*plantation owner in 1823* How dare you call me racist!!! I have an entire backyard full of black people! Same old shit from the racist fuck playbook.
Wouldn't matter if I genuinely believed my boss wasn't racist. If someone wanted to drag me to congress and use me as a "one black friend" human prop on live tv, I'd tell them to fuck off. Some people have no shame.
I know and pointed this out when it first came up live once Cohen clarified the details of what the form demanded in his response. However it seems he accidentally bumped into a legitimate question. Don't think matters though as Cohen has been given the chance to set the record straight (if it wasn't already).
Damn, you're talking about Thomas Jefferson aren't you? Because you'd be exactly right! He'd respond in the same way I bet, especially near the end of his life where he made "progress" on the whole slavery and rape of black people thing going on with him (asking Congress to buy us and then ship us the fuck out, or only freeing a handful of slaves on death)
The frustrating thing is that's something that's extremely rarely done at these things. Everyone mostly just sticks to to what they prepared for.
Democrats don't even coordinate before hand, even though republicans clearly do.
Decided to make my way though the whole thing. Am about an hour an a half in, and that opening was great. Also the republicans trying to postpone at the beginning would be hilarious if it wasn't so transparent and infuriating.
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The vast majority of people will never watch close to this entire thing. They'll get their 30 second CNN or Fox News clip and that'll be it.
The entire thing + twitch chat is archived here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/387515410
The entire thing + twitch chat is archived here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/387515410
Fuck
Those
Guys.
Shittiest thing about it is they never faced consequences for that.
Oh yeah, there is no doubt in my mind that the man is a lousy father, a lousy husband, a lousy friend and a lousy human being.
He's everything you don't want as a president as he doesn't care about anyone but himself and he isn't curious about anything and that has kept him surprisingly unwise, ignorant, clueless and childish for a man his age. I mean, it's hard to be as empty as he is at his age.
Is there a good summary of this I can read somewhere? I watched some on YouTube yesterday but I don't have time for the whole thing so I'd rather just have the cliff notes.
EDIT - don't worry, The Guardian has a fairly detailed article on it.
EDIT - don't worry, The Guardian has a fairly detailed article on it.
Well, they are used to see their orange overlord clearly talking without pre-written notes or teleprompter. So obviously, when they see a politican use clear, comprehensible and intelligent phrases on TV, it seems fishy to them.
Not to get off topic, but if this is your first taste of something like this and you want more, check out the old House judiciary committee hearing on SOPA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBl4EmI_hhg
And for more greatest hits, watch the Senate hearing on the Russian misinformation campaign during the election: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBf7rEF-Iqo
Our government is so fucking broken, it's full of morons. Watching the above will crush any hope you have about our ability to lead ourselves.
Whenever something new was said or a new name came up the entire chat just spamming "GOTTEM" or "WE GOT EM" just had me in stitches.
It was like watching an Ace Attorney stream lol
I killed me every time the chat went "NEW LORE" every time Cohen dropped new tidbits.
Boxes or books
BOXES OR BOOKS
I mean she was basically a party planner who now is a higher up at at HUD so she's going to do whatever Trump asks her to do.
Which is why I don't think Republicans give a fuck about actually making coherent arguments or coming off as dignified. All they care about is providing soundbites that can be chopped up and fed to the brainwashed masses watching Fox.
*Wink*
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The juxtaposition between the deadly serious congress hearing + the absurd humor of twitch chat is something to behold.
Like someone else said, it's modern art.
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When I heard him open and say "President Trump is a racist, a conman, and a cheat." I just immediately rolled my eyes and sighed. Not because I disagree, but because I know I just saw the news byte. That's the only thing we'll ever see from the testimony on the news networks who are only interested in sensationalism and not substance
Mark maedows getting called on his racist shit. and seeing him panic. lol
Sadly its most watched "cable news" in the USA and a large portion of the population take everything they say as gospel and 100% truth :(.
If it was possible to apologise on behalf of all of us, I/we would. Guess it wouldn't stop these people from doing it again and again, probably for a couple more generations at least. Le sigh.
The R-base will be saying exactly the same thing about the democrat side.
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