Michael Cohen testifies on Capitol Hill (over)

ChrisP8Three · Mar 1, 2019

cameron said:
Rebecca Ballhaus @rebeccaballhaus

Sean Hannity to Trump in tonight's interview, on Michael Cohen and the hush-money payments: "I can tell you personally, he said to me at least a dozen times, that he made the decision on the payments and he didn't tell you."

9:12 PM - Feb 28, 2019

Aaron Rupar @atrupar

Trump and Hannity are still pretending Trump actually wrote Art of the Deal

9:34 PM - Feb 28, 2019 · Washington, DC

Aaron Rupar @atrupar

Hannity insists Cohen "was never my attorney" - Cohen said in court Hannity was 1 of his 3 clients - then says Cohen told him he decided to make hush payments on his own

"He said to me a dozen times he made the decision on the payments & he didn't tell you"

"Yup," Trump replies pic.twitter.com/NqhLJi7guH

10:23 PM - Feb 28, 2019

Hanity: Cohen was never my attorney
Also Ahnity: in my numerous conversations with my attorney Michael Cohen he broke client attorney privilege and told me that he chose to pay of the adult film stars on his own

WHAT? i feel like i'm loosing intelligence even reading their insanity

cameron said:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Wow, just revealed that Michael Cohen wrote a "love letter to Trump" manuscript for a new book that he was pushing. Written and submitted long after Charlottesville and Helsinki, his phony reasons for going rogue. Book is exact opposite of his fake testimony, which now is a lie!

8:00 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Congress must demand the transcript of Michael Cohen's new book, given to publishers a short time ago. Your heads will spin when you see the lies, misrepresentations and contradictions against his Thursday testimony. Like a different person! He is totally discredited!

8:08 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Oh' I see! Now that the 2 year Russian Collusion case has fallen apart, there was no Collusion except bye Crooked Hillary and the Democrats, they say, "gee, I have an idea, let's look at Trump's finances and every deal he has ever done. Let's follow discredited Michael Cohen.....

8:19 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

...and the fraudulent and dishonest statements he made on Wednesday. No way, it's time to stop this corrupt and illegally brought Witch Hunt. Time to start looking at the other side where real crimes were committed. Republicans have been abused long enough. Must end now!

8:26 AM - Mar 1, 2019

JenLawrenceOkay.gif

Fair enough Trumpster if that was genuinely true you would do what any previous president* would have done, opened your self up for genuine questioning and shut this down with the Truth, but you won't you twitter rant and direct cronies to try and shut things down because its actually true

*any previous president except the 'great' Nixon wouldn't be in this situation though

Mr. Fantastic · Mar 1, 2019

guys but lets be real though

Lanny Davis is totally getting bankrolled by Dems, right?

Their exchange over that line of questioning was priceless

Deleted member 28461 · Mar 1, 2019

This just keeps getting dumber.

Parthenios · Mar 1, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
I still can't wrap my head around Black Republicans who roll deep with obvious racists.

A lot of racism is pointed at "scary" "others" and not people you know personally, so even obvious racists aren't necessarily racist to acquaintances.

It's like the stories of people that voted for Trump being shocked when some beloved figure from their community would get deported ("Well, of course I wanted illegals deported, but this guy was a good person!"). This is why racists think they aren't racist for having a black friend ("I've never called my friend the n-word, therefore I cannot be racist!").

Windu · Mar 1, 2019

is there a full transcript of this anywhere? I have read the opening statements, can't seem to find any thing else in a easy to read format. cspan has a subtitle transcript but you have to read it with the video. would prefer to read the hearing, less yelling and tv showmanship.

Bakercat · Mar 1, 2019

cameron said:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Wow, just revealed that Michael Cohen wrote a "love letter to Trump" manuscript for a new book that he was pushing. Written and submitted long after Charlottesville and Helsinki, his phony reasons for going rogue. Book is exact opposite of his fake testimony, which now is a lie!

8:00 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Congress must demand the transcript of Michael Cohen's new book, given to publishers a short time ago. Your heads will spin when you see the lies, misrepresentations and contradictions against his Thursday testimony. Like a different person! He is totally discredited!

8:08 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Oh' I see! Now that the 2 year Russian Collusion case has fallen apart, there was no Collusion except bye Crooked Hillary and the Democrats, they say, "gee, I have an idea, let's look at Trump's finances and every deal he has ever done. Let's follow discredited Michael Cohen.....

8:19 AM - Mar 1, 2019

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

...and the fraudulent and dishonest statements he made on Wednesday. No way, it's time to stop this corrupt and illegally brought Witch Hunt. Time to start looking at the other side where real crimes were committed. Republicans have been abused long enough. Must end now!

8:26 AM - Mar 1, 2019

This reads like a Scott Steiner promo tbh

Makeno · Mar 1, 2019

bye Crooked Hillary

how do you fuck that one up?

Sho_Nuff82 · Mar 1, 2019

Sheepinator said:

Hannity really stepped in it this time. If he were a journalist he'd know to never make himself part of the story. And he essentially waived any attorney-client privilege by saying he never spoke to Cohen in a legal capacity.

ZackieChan · Mar 1, 2019

Makeno said:
bye Crooked Hillary

how do you fuck that one up?

He also started a quote and never put closing quotes.
#triggered

Sheepinator · Mar 1, 2019

Who else thinks Trump spent more time in the last few days focused on this than on the North Korea summit?

Forearms · Mar 1, 2019

Sheepinator said:
Who else thinks Trump spent more time in the last few days focused on this than on the North Korea summit?

I'm pretty sure the Cohen testimony was on his mind the ENTIRE time. I wouldn't be surprised if he bitched about it to Kim Jung Un, who then replied, "Why don't you just kill him? That's what I would do."

Shoeless · Mar 1, 2019

Forearms said:
I'm pretty sure the Cohen testimony was on his mind the ENTIRE time. I wouldn't be surprised if he bitched about it to Kim Jung Un, who then replied, "Why don't you just kill him? That's what I would do."

I have almost no doubt that, behind closed doors, Kim probably made a joke like this, and Trump sighed and said, "Man, your country is so much better than mine..."

SlickShoesRUCRazy · Mar 1, 2019

Sheepinator said:

I would love for hannity to testify, then Cohen provide receipts to the opposite showing hannity perjuring himself.

LebGuns · Mar 1, 2019

Wraith said:
Lordy...

Cummings: House Oversight will seek interviews with Trump Jr., Ivanka

So the Trumplings will eventually get the Oversight Committee treatment, and both Oversight and Intelligence committees have their eyes on Weisselberg.

Whoa... Was this posted as a separate thread too? Would have not known about this had I not randomly decided to come back to this thread. Needs its own thread IMO.

Doom_Bringer · Mar 1, 2019

Sheepinator said:
Who else thinks Trump spent more time in the last few days focused on this than on the North Korea summit?

yea

Supercrap · Mar 1, 2019

SlickShoesRUCRazy said:
I would love for hannity to testify, then Cohen provide receipts to the opposite showing hannity perjuring himself.

Didn't Cohen record alot of his conversations with clients? Gonna be funny when those hannity recordings come out

Dan L · Mar 1, 2019

SlickShoesRUCRazy said:
I would love for hannity to testify, then Cohen provide receipts to the opposite showing hannity perjuring himself.

Seriously thinking the same thing

Deleted member 4614 · Mar 1, 2019

Reminder that it's been exactly 3,600 days since Sean Hannity promised he would get waterboarded for charity.

Wraith · Mar 1, 2019

LebGuns said:
Whoa... Was this posted as a separate thread too? Would have not known about this had I not randomly decided to come back to this thread. Needs its own thread IMO.

I thought someone posted one, maybe not? I know there was one for Weisselberg and one for Sater, two other headlines from recent post-Cohen news.

SatelliteOfLove · Mar 1, 2019

Mr. Fantastic said:
guys but lets be real though

Lanny Davis is totally getting bankrolled by Dems, right?

Their exchange over that line of questioning was priceless

Hes actually kinda shady. Its one of myfew concerns about this like Individual-1 is being cut loose.

SoH · Mar 1, 2019

Bouncing around various op-eds this morning (nothing amazing so far if you've been following along), however this stuck out to me. I've heard it before but not in direct comparison.

Donald Trump has a new fixer: House Republicans

Republican congresswoman Carol Miller complained about Congress wasting time and taxpayer money for this hearing. At 28 months, Republicans spent more time investigating the Benghazi attack than they did the 9/11 terror attacks, Watergate and the JFK assassination all to undermine then secretary of state Clinton and Obama.

I decided to look it up to get the actual numbers and while the specific dates of formation and dissolve are not always straight forward it is pretty clear Republicans, particularly those who have held office in the past decade, don't have a damned leg to stand on in terms of wasteful investigations. They are full of shit and rely on people not bothering to do an ounce of work to call them on their bullshit. The closest is the combined investigation of the assassinations of JFK and MLK Jr. from which you can infer the Republicans believe Benghazi was an event requiring this level of scrutiny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi
Duration 31 months, 4 days (I believe the 28 months often cited is likely using the date of the first hearing, rather than when the committee was formed)
Formed May 8, 2014
Dissolved December 12, 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission
Duration: 20 months, 25 days
Formed November 27, 2002
Dissolved August 21, 2004

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations
Duration: 27 months, 30 days (30 months, using date of Report)
Formed September, 1976
Dissolved December 31, 1978 (I was not able to find a more concrete date for completing the investigation than the year so I used a very generous end of year date. If you use the date of the report, MARCH 29, 1979, it still comes out at 30 months, under the full time frame of Benghazi formation to dissolve.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Watergate_Committee
Duration: 16 months, 20 days
Formed February 7, 1973
Dissolved June 27, 1974

SlickShoesRUCRazy · Mar 1, 2019

I'm still of the opinion that if trump goes down for treason, and that is a big if, all the GOP members that actively tried to protect him need to be removed.

They actively participated in protecting him. That should be enough.

Sheepinator · Mar 1, 2019

SlickShoesRUCRazy said:
I'm still of the opinion that if trump goes down for treason, and that is a big if, all the GOP members that actively tried to protect him need to be removed.

They actively participated in protecting him. That should be enough.

Just imagine the outrage if Obama sided with Putin, Kim and Saudi leaders instead of US intel, and praised them publicly constantly while shitting on our allies and NATO. Pre-2016 GOP and Fox would be apoplectic. It is shocking the lengths they'll go to carry water for someone like that, just in the name of Party > Country.

Sheepinator · Mar 1, 2019

SmiteOfHand said:
Bouncing around various op-eds this morning (nothing amazing so far if you've been following along), however this stuck out to me. I've heard it before but not in direct comparison.

Donald Trump has a new fixer: House Republicans

I decided to look it up to get the actual numbers and while the specific dates of formation and dissolve are not always straight forward it is pretty clear Republicans, particularly those who have held office in the past decade, don't have a damned leg to stand on in terms of wasteful investigations. They are full of shit and rely on people not bothering to do an ounce of work to call them on their bullshit. The closest is the combined investigation of the assassinations of JFK and MLK Jr. from which you can infer the Republicans believe Benghazi was an event requiring this level of scrutiny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi
Duration 31 months, 4 days (I believe the 28 months often cited is likely using the date of the first hearing, rather than when the committee was formed)
Formed May 8, 2014
Dissolved December 12, 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission
Duration: 20 months, 25 days
Formed November 27, 2002
Dissolved August 21, 2004

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations
Duration: 27 months, 30 days (30 months, using date of Report)
Formed September, 1976
Dissolved December 31, 1978 (I was not able to find a more concrete date for completing the investigation than the year so I used a very generous end of year date. If you use the date of the report, MARCH 29, 1979, it still comes out at 30 months, under the full time frame of Benghazi formation to dissolve.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Watergate_Committee
Duration: 16 months, 20 days
Formed February 7, 1973
Dissolved June 27, 1974

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?" McCarthy had said. "But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping."

Deleted member 29806 · Mar 1, 2019

SlickShoesRUCRazy said:
I'm still of the opinion that if trump goes down for treason, and that is a big if, all the GOP members that actively tried to protect him need to be removed.

They actively participated in protecting him. That should be enough.

You are dreaming.

SlickShoesRUCRazy · Mar 1, 2019

Kukulcan said:
You are dreaming.

If trump were to go down for treason, those that actively protected him shouldn't be punished? Remember, the gop has tried hiding all of trump's criminal shit for 2 years now. They should absolutely be punished if shit gets to that point.

Steel · Mar 1, 2019

SlickShoesRUCRazy said:
If trump were to go down for treason, those that actively protected him shouldn't be punished? Remember, the gop has tried hiding all of trump's criminal shit for 2 years now. They should absolutely be punished if shit gets to that point.

What should happen and what's within the realm of reasonable possibility are two very very different things.

xbhaskarx · Mar 1, 2019

Looks like Donnie Junior didn't know what words like "hubris" "obfuscate" and "humbling" meant so he retweeted a guy saying that Cohen told the truth...

Deleted member 50374 · Mar 1, 2019

Even if it may not happen, when the time comes, ask for punishment for those who sided with traitors and criminals. We didn't do the same in Italy after the war and it ended up biting us in the ass. Don't make the same mistake, don't support "social peace" or " unity"; people who kidnap children and let people die without healthcare aren't normal criminals, they're war criminals.

Ithil · Mar 1, 2019

SmiteOfHand said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi
Duration 31 months, 4 days (I believe the 28 months often cited is likely using the date of the first hearing, rather than when the committee was formed)
Formed May 8, 2014
Dissolved December 12, 2016

Gee, that's a mysterious date, I wonder why they suddenly didn't give a shit about Benjamin Ghazi anymore.

Sheepinator · Mar 1, 2019

Huff/YouGov survey after the Cohen public hearing.

48% think Trump is a racist, and 17% are unsure. That's incredible. Could you have imagined 5, 10, 20 years ago having a PotuS that so many people see as a racist?

50% think Trump has committed financial fraud, 23% are unsure. Almost none who think so are Republicans, despite the mountain of evidence (which I guess they never see...)

21% think Cohen's actions were "an isolated incident not related to the Trump administration". Not surprisingly, that's mostly Republicans believing the garbage from Fox/Huckaliar.

https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/athena/files/2019/03/01/5c796b03e4b033abd14b6145.pdf

julian · Mar 1, 2019

themuzzotheory said:
Even if it may not happen, when the time comes, ask for punishment for those who sided with traitors and criminals. We didn't do the same in Italy after the war and it ended up biting us in the ass. Don't make the same mistake, don't support "social peace" or " unity"; people who kidnap children and let people die without healthcare aren't normal criminals, they're war criminals.

Seriously. Fucking sick of shit like Obama not wanting to prosecute anybody involved in torture saying we needed to move past it. Infuriated me and basically tells the next guy they can get away with shit out of a sense of civility.

stew · Mar 1, 2019

Michael Cohen implicated Trump in at least 11 different felonies (Vice)

I quoted the first paragraph for each felony, the article goes into more depth.

Potential evidence in a Russia conspiracy case

Cohen introduced new information linking Trump and his campaign to a possible criminal conspiracy relating to the hacked Democratic emails that were stolen by Russian spies and released by WikiLeaks before the 2016 election.

Lying to Mueller

Cohen's story about Trump's conversation with Stone also contradicts what Trump reportedly told Mueller in writing. Trump's legal team reportedly rejected Mueller's request for an interview with the president, and instead responded to the Special Counsel's questions in a letter.

Suborning perjury

Cohen said Wednesday that Trump implicitly told him to lie to Congress under oath about attempts to develop a Trump Tower in Moscow in the midst of the 2016 presidential campaign — a move that could potentially constitute the crime of suborning perjury.

Campaign finance violations

Cohen said his former boss directed him to organize hush-money payments during the campaign to women who claimed that they'd slept with Trump.

Election fraud

Cohen said Trump knew exactly what he was giving Cohen money for: to silence the women and keep voters from finding out about Trump's affairs.

Insurance fraud

Cohen also alleged that Trump made false claims to insurance companies by inflating the size of his assets, a move that Cohen said would have allowed him to reduce his premiums.

Witness tampering

Cohen and Democrats in Congress have accused Trump of attempting to intimidate him out of testifying against Trump by making threats against Cohen's family.

Bank fraud

Cohen said Trump inflated his wealth while seeking to borrow money from Deutsche Bank in a failed attempt to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014.

Tax fraud

Cohen also said Trump "deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes."

Financial disclosure

Trump may have broken the law by failing to disclose the money he owed Cohen for making the hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels.

Misusing charitable funds

Cohen said Trump used his charity's money to buy a painting of himself — a potentially improper misuse of charitable funds.

LukeOP · Mar 1, 2019

I wish Cohen told us how much Trump is really worth.

Voyager · Mar 1, 2019

LukeOP said:
I wish Cohen told us how much Trump is really worth.

It would be awesome if it was less than $400 million.

Sheepinator · Mar 1, 2019

stew said:
Michael Cohen implicated Trump in at least 11 different felonies (Vice)

I quoted the first paragraph for each felony, the article goes into more depth.

Potential evidence in a Russia conspiracy case

Lying to Mueller

Suborning perjury

Campaign finance violations

Election fraud

Insurance fraud

Witness tampering

Bank fraud

Tax fraud

Financial disclosure

Misusing charitable funds

Lock him up. And then fix the Constitution so this farce doesn't happen again, where someone can break the law to become PotuS, then is not only shielded from arrest and prosecution once there, they can also witness tamper, obstruct justice and stack courts. It's banana republic stuff.

SuperBanana · Mar 2, 2019

xbhaskarx said:
Looks like Donnie Junior didn't know what words like "hubris" "obfuscate" and "humbling" meant so he retweeted a guy saying that Cohen told the truth...

It would be hilarious if he intentionally retweeted this because he was angry at his Dad after what Cohen said about him.

Wackamole · Mar 2, 2019

SuperBanana said:
It would be hilarious if he intentionally retweeted this because he was angry at his Dad after what Cohen said about him.

Nope. It's because he's fucking stoooooopid. Like his old man.

ZackieChan · Mar 2, 2019

themuzzotheory said:
Even if it may not happen, when the time comes, ask for punishment for those who sided with traitors and criminals. We didn't do the same in Italy after the war and it ended up biting us in the ass. Don't make the same mistake, don't support "social peace" or " unity"; people who kidnap children and let people die without healthcare aren't normal criminals, they're war criminals.

Don't the crimes need to be part of a war for them to be war crimes?

BowieZ · Mar 2, 2019

xbhaskarx said:
Looks like Donnie Junior didn't know what words like "hubris" "obfuscate" and "humbling" meant so he retweeted a guy saying that Cohen told the truth...

What the fuck.

Worst judgment in the world.

TheDutchSlayer · Mar 2, 2019

So how stupid are these people?

Deleted member 50374 · Mar 2, 2019

ZackieChan said:
Don't the crimes need to be part of a war for them to be war crimes?

They're in a war with the western world

Sheepinator · Mar 2, 2019

Did anything ever come out from the closed days?

TheDutchSlayer · Mar 2, 2019

Sheepinator said:
Did anything ever come out from the closed days?

That that I know off and lets hope it stays that way, better that part is sealed if that kind of stuff gets out, it could damage any ongoing cases against trump etc.

Off we all want to know that stuff and we should know that stuff but after when the cases are handled.

dabig2 · Mar 2, 2019

Sheepinator said:
Did anything ever come out from the closed days?

Only reactions from some, but clearly more bombshells were dropped in there and they were definitely able to get more into the gritty details instead of wasting time with the aplomb theatrics of recalcitrant GOP members.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ear-investigate-trumps-bank-and-deals/583996/

The House Intelligence Committee, meanwhile, plans to have Cohen back for a second closed-door interview on March 6. To say the panel learned something new from the president's longtime personal lawyer behind closed doors "would be an understatement," Democratic Representative Eric Swalwell of California, who sits on the committee, told CNN on Thursday, adding that "there's very valuable new leads that we learned."

And Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the vice-chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told reporters following Cohen's closed-door testimony earlier this week that the Russia investigation "may be the most important thing I'm involved in in my public life in the Senate. Nothing I heard today dissuades me from that view."

BMW · Mar 2, 2019

Nunes already told the WH everything. I'm surprised he's still on that committee.

dabig2 · Mar 2, 2019

BMW said:
Nunes already told the WH everything. I'm surprised he's still on that committee.

And here is what McCabe says about this in the book: "Now that the Gang of Eight was a crowd of two dozen in the room, I thought, the chance of this not getting back to the president was basically zero. Then Devin Nunes walked in, and the chance was less than zero."

Considering the FBI and Dems knew that members of the GOP were utterly compromised even in the early days, I do wonder how much of an impact it has had on investigations.

BMW · Mar 2, 2019

dabig2 said:
And here is what McCabe says about this in the book: "Now that the Gang of Eight was a crowd of two dozen in the room, I thought, the chance of this not getting back to the president was basically zero. Then Devin Nunes walked in, and the chance was less than zero."

Considering the FBI and Dems knew that members of the GOP were utterly compromised even in the early days, I do wonder how much of an impact it has had on investigations.

Yep, yet he is still doing his thing.

Shoeless · Mar 2, 2019

dabig2 said:
Only reactions from some, but clearly more bombshells were dropped in there and they were definitely able to get more into the gritty details instead of wasting time with the aplomb theatrics of recalcitrant GOP members.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ear-investigate-trumps-bank-and-deals/583996/

I wonder if GOP members even say anything during those closed door meetings. They realize nothing they say there will be broadcast on Fox, and they realize there's no audience watching to be brainwashed by shouting, so is there even a point to participating? They're more interested in theater and a closed door sessions offers them none of that.

julian · Mar 2, 2019

Shoeless said:
I wonder if GOP members even say anything during those closed door meetings. They realize nothing they say there will be broadcast on Fox, and they realize there's no audience watching to be brainwashed by shouting, so is there even a point to participating? They're more interested in theater and a closed door sessions offers them none of that.

Are they participating? Remember one of the GOP members mentioned never having heard of Cohen until Wednesday.

....yes I know they're actually participating

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