I can't believe anyone fell tor that shit. I saw the concept art and lol'd.
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Michel Platini has been arrested over the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar
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I can't believe anyone fell tor that shit. I saw the concept art and lol'd.
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From what i understand, England is one of those "can hold a tournament at short notice" countries, and if Qatar is stripped of it, the infrastructure is already in place to hold it.
You've got Old Trafford, Etihad, Anfield, St James park, Stadium of Light and Villa Park outside of the capital which are all capable of hosting WC games already. There are several which could hold WC matches with slight expansion too (Goodison, Elland Road)
seriously though, 12 stadiums were used in Russia so:
Wembley - London
Emirates - London
Spurs' new stadium - London
Olympic - London
Old Trafford - Manchester
Etihad - Manchester
Anfield - Liverpool
St James' Park - Newcastle
Celtic Park - Glasgow
Ibrox - Glasgow
Murrayfield - Edinburgh
Millennium Stadium - Cardiff
tourists even get to stay tf away from the midlands too!!
I'm definitely oversimplifying things but...All have a capacity over 50k... There's probably a few more rugby stadiums that could cope too... A few of the Russian stadiums had a capacity of 30k so I think it should be enough?
"Former UEFA president"
It's not only FIFA - it goes from the top right down to the fans.
Birds of a feather flock together.
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seriously though, 12 stadiums were used in Russia so:
Wembley - London
Emirates - London
Spurs' new stadium - London
Olympic - London
Old Trafford - Manchester
Etihad - Manchester
Anfield - Liverpool
St James' Park - Newcastle
Celtic Park - Glasgow
Ibrox - Glasgow
Murrayfield - Edinburgh
Millennium Stadium - Cardiff
tourists even get to stay tf away from the midlands too!!
I'm definitely oversimplifying things but...All have a capacity over 50k... There's probably a few more rugby stadiums that could cope too... A few of the Russian stadiums had a capacity of 30k so I think it should be enough?
If it's English FA awarded it, then all the stadiums will be in England, not spread across the UK.
Villa Park is a great stadium, and deserves to be a WC venue.
Villa Park would definitely be used one of the best grounds in the country
seriously though, 12 stadiums were used in Russia so:
Wembley - London
Emirates - London
Spurs' new stadium - London
Olympic - London
Old Trafford - Manchester
Etihad - Manchester
Anfield - Liverpool
St James' Park - Newcastle
Celtic Park - Glasgow
Ibrox - Glasgow
Murrayfield - Edinburgh
Millennium Stadium - Cardiff
tourists even get to stay tf away from the midlands too!!
I'm definitely oversimplifying things but...All have a capacity over 50k... There's probably a few more rugby stadiums that could cope too... A few of the Russian stadiums had a capacity of 30k so I think it should be enough?
Well that sucks. If it's a short notice thing we could do some sort of South Korea/Japan 2002 deal. English FA are probably greedy bastards so they'll hog it
Stamford Bridge, Villa Park, Stadium of Light could sub in
i mean, why do you think they bought PSG?
and started pouring money in a lot of big french business
and started pouring money in a lot of big french business
He is the leader of the bunch, what do you expect him to say?
That's like quoting Blatter 10 years ago.
London - Wembley
London - Emirates
London - Spurs
South/South East - Brighton
South West - Ashton Gate
Midlands - Villa Park
Midlands - Leicester
North West - Anfield
North West - Old Trafford
North West - Etihad
North East - St James' Park
Yorkshire - Elland Road
That's the best spread and a good mix of capacity. Maybe swap Leicester for one of the Sheffield grounds or Forest if the money and time was there to renovate.
Elland Road needs far more than expansion. Outside of the main two tiered stand Elland Road is an absolute dump. It's in the same group as Forest's City Ground, Hillsborough or Bramall Lane - as being located in major cities and accessible to most of the country, but are old stadiums and in need of significant renovation to be brought up to WC standard. Goodison is the same but also wouldn't be used with so many others in the North West.
However Yorkshire would get representation which makes sense logistically, and if they needed to renovate Elland Road then it would be the easiest and most logical of the big Yorkshire grounds to do so.
Let me get this straight, people can go to jail over this but they still are going ahead having the tournament there when it's still more than 3 years away and many contries could easily host it next year? Mmmm
I love how Sarkozy somehow ends up being involved in this.
His presidency was really a dark time for us.
His presidency was really a dark time for us.
It should be cancelled now.
In fact, just skip the world cup in 2022 if they can't find another place to play it. Better than hundreds of more deaths.
It's shit that the WC is held in Quatar but why shouldn't FIFA be able to simply decide who hosts the WC or sell this opportunity to the highest bidder, given that some demands (save travel/ accomodation etc.) are met. It's football not geopolitics...
Or is there a law that mandates it be decided by luck of draw?
I guess I lack crucial information regarding the process.
Regardless, Quatar should be skipped simply based on the amount of people dying to build this shit up. Corruption or not.
Or is there a law that mandates it be decided by luck of draw?
I guess I lack crucial information regarding the process.
Regardless, Quatar should be skipped simply based on the amount of people dying to build this shit up. Corruption or not.
Fuck no, Europe literally just had it. If they do that it should go to another continent. Let's not forget the head FIFA guys were European to begin with.
Yeah there's something I'm missing here. At the end of the day its just soccer. If the bribe contained something illegal then maybe it makes more sense.
I mean Germany just auctioned off the rights to build the 5G network to the highest bidder (6 billion €) surly the same could be made for hosting the WC.
The problem is that outside of Europe it would likely be difficult to put together with short notice. I don't know China's stadium situation but that might be the only plausible other option.
It would depend on which country / region has the infrastructure to hold it on such short notice. Beyond Europe, North America would probably the best choice but since it already has 2026, I doubt it would want to swap.
I can't believe out of all the reasons why this WC is bad some people choose this.
There is a world outside Europe.
Guys many, many people have died building stadia in Qatar because it was not fit for purpose. It should never, ever have won and that's how bribery and corruption was obvious straight away. It's not ever really been down to 'luck of the draw' it's been always on the merit of the hosts both in infrastructure and spectacle. The only thing Qatar offered apart from the bribery was the location being new for the tournament but that in itself should not have won over Australia as people have already said who were in q similarly unique position and who obviously wouldn't have driven people to death building stadia in atrocious conditions.
Because poor countries aren't already poor and FIFA isn't already rich enough.
You still think this is a good idea if the next 5 World Cup's go to the next 5 Oil dictatorships?
I think Capitalism has already done more than enough damage to the sport.
Having to completely change a whole season of Football to play a WC in the desert is ridiculous.
If they had given it to Australia then we would none of these problems
Australia should have won it , everyone knew when it was awarded it was based on corruption , but everyone just accepted fifa is corrupt so don't even bother fighting it.
Yes because all of those other World Cups that were held outside of Europe were also in the winter.
And the US still holds the all-time World Cup attendance record.
That's what the bidding process is for. Thing is, as a location for the actual event Qatar was the worst of the bidders. From climate to infrastructure. Yet they won the bid.
The problem with Qatar was that the highest bid was paid to people like Platini instead of the Institution. Also, the worldcup is a multibillion revenue event. It's been a long time since it was "only" a football tournament. The Fifa has to follow the same rules for such things as everyone else.
Yep, but we're likely still holding on for 2026, the one we won.
12 stadiums required?
Wembley
Spurs
Emirates
London Stadium
Stamford Bridge
Stadium of Light
St James' Park
Old Trafford
Etihad
Anfield
Villa Park
Stadium MK
All with a minimum capacity of 30k, all good to go at the drop of a hat. 5 London centric ones, sure, but maybe switch out Stamford Bridge for The City Ground if you want to spread the venues about a bit more.
Wembley
Spurs
Emirates
London Stadium
Stamford Bridge
Stadium of Light
St James' Park
Old Trafford
Etihad
Anfield
Villa Park
Stadium MK
All with a minimum capacity of 30k, all good to go at the drop of a hat. 5 London centric ones, sure, but maybe switch out Stamford Bridge for The City Ground if you want to spread the venues about a bit more.
The US has already been awarded the 2026 World Cup and so we wouldn't get two in a row. I suppose they could give the US 2022 and rebid for 2026 but that sounds like it might mess up too many moving pieces.
They should recticfy the situation and give it to the country the bribers stole it from.
North America has 2026 while Europe had 2018. So US getting it in 2022 is really no worse than some European country.
Or they should keep it in Asian but I'm not sure if any country have the infastruture to quickly turn around a world cup. China? They seem to have some large stadiums https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_China
North America has 2026 while Europe had 2018. So US getting it in 2022 is really no worse than some European country.
Or they should keep it in Asian but I'm not sure if any country have the infastruture to quickly turn around a world cup. China? They seem to have some large stadiums https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_China
Utterly shocked. Who knew Platini of all people was a corrupt bastard! :D
Qatar's bid has never made any sense to host FIFA WC 2022.
Weather is insane during summer which meant a shift to a winter world cup which is insane enough disrupting all major leagues.
They have near zero stadiums and are using slaves to build up infrastructure.
No football history
Money talks and I'm sure FIFA cronies and Platini were bought off for a nice sum.
Taxi to prison for Michel pls next.
Weather is insane during summer which meant a shift to a winter world cup which is insane enough disrupting all major leagues.
They have near zero stadiums and are using slaves to build up infrastructure.
No football history
Money talks and I'm sure FIFA cronies and Platini were bought off for a nice sum.
Taxi to prison for Michel pls next.
It wouldn't be a problem if they auctioned the World Cup hosting to the highest bidder.
But what actually happens is they present it as a competitive process to select the country/countries with the best infrastructure and legacy for the tournament (new stadiums, transport links, local investment, development of young talent, etc), make them spend a lot of money on the bids, get free trips to visit the proposed locations, and then just ignore all that and give it to whoever slips the voters the most money behind the scenes.
It's the charade that makes it illegal. Effectively they are auctioning it off while pretending not to.
Fifa are corrupt news at 11
But in all honesty this is fucking stupid, a world cup whilst we're getting ready for Christmas not to mention that all the football Leagues across Europe have to be completely altered due to the WC taking place in Winter. Just call it off Bribery, potential slavery and not to mention the crazy heat that Europeans would not be use to and they have to be able to play 90+ minutes of the highest professional football possible.
I know our English lads will not do well in this WC
But in all honesty this is fucking stupid, a world cup whilst we're getting ready for Christmas not to mention that all the football Leagues across Europe have to be completely altered due to the WC taking place in Winter. Just call it off Bribery, potential slavery and not to mention the crazy heat that Europeans would not be use to and they have to be able to play 90+ minutes of the highest professional football possible.
I know our English lads will not do well in this WC