It says that it will work with any mouse or keyboard supported by Windows natively.
I only see mouse support in OP.
It says that it will work with any mouse or keyboard supported by Windows natively.
Kinda weird to tout cross-play if plan to make it so you can't even play against everyone on your platform
Likely not, because I get in matches quickly. It's a big advantage because you also get quick hotkeys for building.
Yeah, kind of strange. Microsoft has produced some pretty good mice/keyboards in the past. Partnering with the 99% marketing, 1% engineering company doesn't make any sense to me.
Phil has already gone on record saying it will be up to devs to implement and there would be opt-ins for controller only users to decide if they want to play with kbm users. I'm glad they've finally come up with a way to detect XIM users. Now that they're offering official support anyone caught using a XIM to circumvent controller only gameplay queues can be punished.
You can't stop the XIM that way, because you must connect an official controller into it. The console detects the official controller that you have plugged into it. Then the XIM starts sending inputs.From what i remember them saying earlier this year i believe, they have always had APIs that allow the detection and prohibition of devices like the xim thing that lets you use M&KB on xb1. It is up to developers to take advantage of these API's according to MS...in other words, using devices like the xim device are perfectly alright with microsoft aslong as the developers havnt actively gone out of their way to make sure said devices dont work in their games.
People already use MKB mods.
Fortnite has crossplay with PC on every single platform and people still play the shit out of that game. Nobody cares. And for the hyper competitive games out there where people may care they can just seperate playlists.
Anyway. Xbox players get ready for Batman looking products! Lol
Big Comfy Couch.
So the players of games will be split up into two groups? Cutting the player base down? How is that a non-issue?Microsoft has said over and over that Devs are encouraged to make separate input playlists and can easily detect what input type you use. Its also in the article. This is a non-issue.
The player base will span across PC and Consoles. There will be a larger pool of players actually. I suspect the players lost to mice and keyboard on console will be gained by the PC players playing with a controller. I don't think this will affect player populations of each input type.So the players of games will be split up into two groups? Cutting the player base down? How is that a non-issue?
But will it have Microsoft's build quality or Razer's.
Microsoft's cheap mice and keyboards are better than anything Razer makes.
So the players of games will be split up into two groups? Cutting the player base down? How is that a non-issue?
Gears tactics not on xbox is ridiculous in the first place.If this means Age of Empires 4 and Gears Tactics on Xbox - yes, please!
Fear fear fear. Talked extensively with people about this last night. About how games with skill based matchmaking generally speaking make up for the difference in player skill by matching similiarly performing players with each other. I.E if you tend to score X, N KD etc. Even while playing against a collection of other PC and console players. Then even considering input you both can obviously play against each other just fine.
(Anecdotally speaking, for example in recent memory, I played Titanfall and BF1 on PC with a controller and did very well. If I was in a lower skill bracket with my buddies or something and that's what caused me to do better, well, I never noticed, so it basically didn't matter.)
Obviously the top of the top players are still going to be PC players, but that's already the case, and so they will be naturally sorted into effectively PC only lobbies as it were. If people are so worried about their epeen they're being silly though, as those PC/Esports players are obviously "better", just because you have two lists/brackets doesn't make it any less true.
Then or course they just immediately fell back on "well then every other PC player is cheating" argument and I knew it was not a rational conversation, as these often are not.
What it comes down to, is for some reason people are more concerned with false equality, and the vast majority of people will never ever be highly ranked enough for it to matter. Over options for people to play the way they want, and the games they want. There's plenty of great games that could be ported to consoles as a result. As their current control schemes simply aren't robust enough to handle it or need to be extensively retuned for it to work.
Also having an option for "Only want to play with controller players" is always a good one, and will likely be common in crossplay games. But the fact people can play together is the most important part. Sure you can't stop everyone from finding ways around it. But it already happens now with things like the XIM.
I don't play competitive games much, and almost never alone. I like to play with my friends on the platform of my choice, and I'd like it if they could also play on the platform of their choice. That's what it comes down to for me. And of course I'm not advocating for cheating as it would in fact at least ruin the highest eschelon of play. As the buck stops somewhere. So if you're paired in the top 10% say. The top 10% would be ruined by rampent cheating. So your analogy doesn't really hold up. As a cheater is better than any player, because they're effectively not really playing.So do you think aimbots and wallhacks should be allowed on PC? Because theoretically the same logic should hold true. And the SBMM will just match the cheaters with each other. That way everyone can play how they like so its better for everyone.
Because my guess is you probably care about "false equality" when it benefits your playstyle.
I don't play competitive games much, and almost never alone. I like to play with my friends on the platform of my choice, and I'd like it if they could also play on the platform of their choice. That's what it comes down to for me. And of course I'm not advocating for cheating as it would in fact at least ruin the highest eschelon of play. As the buck stops somewhere. So if you're paired in the top 10% say. The top 10% would be ruined by rampent cheating. So your analogy doesn't really hold up. As a cheater is better than any player, because they're effectively not really playing.