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Bethesda is not a part of Xbox Game Studios. They are a part of Xbox, creating a second publishing arm, as Bethesda will remain completely in-tact after the acquisition. [...]
All developers are PREY to the evil within microsoft. The new collossus of game development cannot be stopped.
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Like some said already said it will fall under xbox as in xbox is what the gaming division of MS is called. Phils is the head of Xbox and VP of gaming, Phil along with the VPs of the other divisions all report directly to Satya, Matt Booty is head of XGS and reports to Phil, Vault will be a publishing arm of xbox and whoever is head of this publishing arm will report to Phil and have all the zenimax studios report to them. It is like a chain of command thing, the disney and their labels is a good example of this.
This what I mean. Separate from Xbox Game Studios. keeping their own manage structure and creative independence.
Only if Phil decides them to be from what I'm understanding.
In the end Zenimax will report to Phil and Phil will make the call.
No. They're still under the Xbox umbrella, and if Phil says everything is Xbox/PC, then everything is Xbox/PC.
Although you are right, this has nothing to do about labels. It's pure M&A strategy.
In this case, it's about this specific type:
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"The main purpose of a subsidiary merger is to protect the buyer from the liabilities of the target company."
In gamer terms: nothingtoseehere.gif
I know, just replying to someone who was wondering who Bethesda would report to which is why I started talking about labels.Although you are right, this has nothing to do about labels. It's pure M&A strategy.
In this case, it's about this specific type:
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In a shorter quote:
"The main purpose of a subsidiary merger is to protect the buyer from the liabilities of the target company."
Zenimax is under Xbox. The subsidiary is going to be merged with Zenimax, nothing to read into it more other than its some legal thing.
Of all the companies MS have acquired only the LinkedIn CEO is an EVP. Probably because LinkedIn itself is almost a $10 billion a year "company/division". Seems pretty unlikely Bethesda CEO will be on the senior leadership team. Also, not sure why Satya would want an internal game publisher to report to him and not the EVP of gaming.
I don't think that's how it works.
I think this lends credence to the fact we haven't heard any Bethesda studios labeled as part of Xbox Game Studios. Seems like they are letting Zenimax stay an independently managed subsidiary and not just folding the business to instead run all the devs under XGS.
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It is not that at all.
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This was always going to be the case.
It is a subsidiary of xbox like XGS, it is a second publishing arm.
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This is just how you structure just about any corporate acquisition:
Nothing more to it. This is literally how 99% of corporate acquisitions are accomplished.
- Buyer creates a merger sub
- Buyer puts purchase consideration (cash) into the merger sub
- Target adopts a plan of merger, whereby it will merge with an into merger sub, with Target surviving
- Under the terms of the merger, the shares held by the Target shareholders will be exchanged for the purchase consideration (cash)
Nothing more to it. This is literally how 99% of corporate acquisitions are accomplished.
Phil said Bethesda is "VITAL" for Xbox success so I think they will be integrated in some way to xbox.
I think you're confusing Xbox with Xbox Game Studios. Bethesda and XGS fall under the umbrella 'Xbox' but Bethesda and XGS will be separate entities within Xbox no overlap.
I think people are reading too much into this. As an aside, buddy of mine interviewed there. Was told they expect to be business as usual and operate autonomously. In line with what we've heard but interesting seeing it emphasized to potential new hires. Seems to have been a major key point in the aquisition.
That was always the plan: To keep Zenimax as a seperate entity within the Xbox division and not integrated within Xbox Game Studios. It makes logical sense when you consider that Zenimax is a pretty big publisher and would be too cumbersome to try and fully integrate them within XGS, poor Matt Booty would have his plate full lol.
It is best to leave Zenimax as they are in terms of the day to day running because it just works - pun intended lol.
Also, it does seem that Xbox has learned from its past and generally does leave their new studios alone in terms of running themselves.
My suspicion is Zenimax internal studios report to Pete Hines, Pete Hines reports to Phil, Phil to Satya and Amy when necessary.
I agree, there just were lots of people posting they were all XGS now and even graphics going around making it look like Bethesda was under XGS. But I think it is very intentional that the companies never said that.
I think Bethesda will be managed separately but with unified access to the same IP pool, possible Xbox Game Studios and Bethesda Softworks presents moniker.
Interesting.
lol. This isn't going to happen. Zenimax will become a part of Xbox but won't fall under XGS.
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No, it was always going to be what Marvel Studios is to Disney and Walt Disney Studios.
Matt Booty will have no influence over the games made by Bethesda instead Phil will have two people reporting to him : Pete Hines and Matt Booty in terms of the games being developed by Xbox. If you are a developer working for Zenimax I doubt you will notice any change apart from maybe only focusing on PC and Xbox.
Lol, they won't be charged for that anyways. How small do some people think the gaming business is?
Sadly not.
I think Zenimax will be under Xbox, however Xbox will have two publishers going forward. The XGS arm and then Zenimax. All report to Spencer, but booty has nothing to do with zenimax for example.
So can Bethesda make their own purchases? Like they bought Id, so can they buy other devs through their branch?
That's presumably something they'd need to ask their new bosses, but it's possible, certainly. Embracer for example makes many purchases through their subsidiaries.
Matt Booty not having a say of what goes on at Bethesda is a bummer, since it seems like he's letting the XGS teams make whatever they want.
Xbox should hold a charity drive every year or something, and if they hit some predetermined financial limit, they spin a big wheel on-stage at E3 with a bunch of unused IP on it, then pledge to make a game for whatever it lands on.
I don't think I'd put EVERY IP they own on it, since some would probably be guaranteed money losers in this day and age - but you could throw on all of the ones people are familiar with, and could get excited about.
It would be such a fun annual event.
Heard that one about Mojang/Minecraft titles for years now too... still waiting for it to happen.
I wonder if this acquisition business ends with Matt Booty eventually being elevated to a new position that oversees XGS and Zenimax, or if he's just going to stick with XGS, and Zenimax becomes a parallel reporting structure with it's own Matt Booty.
Anyway, as has been pointed out already, there's not much to glean from this. It's just corpo-maneuvering for managing large acquisitions.
Zenimax are still going to fall under Xbox, and report to Phil Spencer (or someone directly under him). That won't give them any more or less creative independence than the XGS studios already have.
Anyway, as has been pointed out already, there's not much to glean from this. It's just corpo-maneuvering for managing large acquisitions.
Zenimax are still going to fall under Xbox, and report to Phil Spencer (or someone directly under him). That won't give them any more or less creative independence than the XGS studios already have.
You've been hearing about Minecraft going exclusive for years now? What?
Microsoft have never stopped supporting Minecraft on other platforms, and never made so much as a peep that they were going to do otherwise, so not sure where you'd be hearing this from.
Minecraft's power is in it's ubiquity as essentially digital Lego you can play on anything, and Microsoft know that. This is also a very unique situation that doesn't really apply to any other studio/franchise Microsoft do - or are about to - own.
With the Minecraft acquisition they made it very clear it was staying multiplatform.
Minecraft to Join Microsoft - Xbox Wire
Hmm, ya this has me curious about whether or not they'll actually make Bethesda's games exclusives or just feature them all on gamepass day one.
Man, some of you are projecting alot of hopium that this means something that it doesn't
They didn't spend 7.8 billion dollars to sell a few million copies of bethesda games on playstation. They want your sub money every month, and for you to buy all your microtransactions through their ecosystem because you got the game 'free' through them. Exclusives are how they will achieve that.
Anyway, I wonder how much redundancy this merger will ultimately produce. Are all the marketing, production, logistics people at bethesda just waiting for the severance package at this point? Hopefully this arm being somewhat separate saves some jobs.
They didn't spend 7.8 billion dollars to sell a few million copies of bethesda games on playstation. They want your sub money every month, and for you to buy all your microtransactions through their ecosystem because you got the game 'free' through them. Exclusives are how they will achieve that.
Anyway, I wonder how much redundancy this merger will ultimately produce. Are all the marketing, production, logistics people at bethesda just waiting for the severance package at this point? Hopefully this arm being somewhat separate saves some jobs.
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To be clear, they are most likely (99%) doing this as part of regular M&A practices. It's just fun to
Imagine if they were to create an offshoot entity that would house their limited integrated companies