I was just about to ask, does this factor in Switch users?
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Microsoft Q3 results: Gaming up 5% YoY, XBL users now 63m
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well, since gamepass, I've been playing a lot of their games, that's one thing I must confirm.
If you play their games on PC, you're not paying the $60/year Gold subscription which is ridiculously profitable as it's free money to MS without them providing any service back to you.
If they're playing Minecraft online, yes.
I bet they like gold money and that is something exclusive to Xbox console customers.
Yes, but Xbox consoles are not down 33%. That is Xbox Hardware (console and accessories) revenue.
"Offset in part by a decline in XBOX hardware of 33% Primarily due to a decrease in volume of consoles sold."
Since they specifically mentioned XBOX consoles and not peripherals, I referenced consoles.
Xbox console units are down, too. But the exact percentage decline is not known.
The only mobile game that has Xbox Live right now is Minecraft, Solitaire and Wordament haha. Expect it to grow a lot once 3rd parties start adding it to games, and also once some of their first party games launch (Forza Street and Gears Pop)
Edit: also Xbox Live is going to be coming to Switch more (Cuphead, etc) and even Steam (MCC). Expect MS to continue to release games on these new markets to raise MAUs
I don't think they care if you buy a console or not. If you buy their games from their PC store, they'll be happy.
Like I bought State of Decay 2 on XBO S, and it's a Play Anywhere game. So I've been playing it on PC lately. Which means I can play it online on PC without having to pay for Gold?
Yeah...that Play Anywhere strategy also have it's cons from a business aspect.
I appreciate as a consumer tho.
Next gen will be interesting for MS, that's for sure.
Yes
But the 33% decline is still about revenue and not volumes of consoles sold.
Yes. If you have no Gold you can still play it online on PC. You just can't play on the Xbox console.
They are more than happy to take your $$ on PC since you don't have a console anyways. They are still out "ahead" on you. They have lost nothing and gained whatever time and money you spent on their game in whatever marketplace you choose
Of course, additional revenue is always welcome! But you're still in the Xbox ecosystem when there's a good chance you likely would've skipped it altogether. I think that's a win for the division. ^.^
They've already given you an answer. They've given you a choice. Sure, they'll earn more on an Xbox user, but they are happy to have you as a PC or mobile customer too.
See the 1X is the first Xbox I've ever owned (predominately PlayStation) and I'm really enjoying playing on it. In all honesty none of the MS exclusives are all that interesting to me, but they won me over with Game Pass. That service is ridiculously good value. If they keep that up going into next gen then I can see myself grabbing the next Xbox too along with a PS5.
That XBL users number seems incredibly small considering it probably counts all the windows 10 users who have signed up for an XBL account
You know, sometimes I read comments on these boards and I start to wonder do people actually want one of these companies to fail? It feels like certain people are trying to form a narrative that the sky is falling.
We need all of these companies to do well to make sure that we as consumers don't get screwed over (not to mention people could lose jobs). How is profit year over year an indicator of nothing but success which is good for every one?
We need all of these companies to do well to make sure that we as consumers don't get screwed over (not to mention people could lose jobs). How is profit year over year an indicator of nothing but success which is good for every one?
Unless 1X bombed (which according to sales-age accounts, it did the opposite of), average selling price would have risen, or at least stayed mostly flat, so unit decrease would correspond to revenue, or perhaps be even higher.
Positive results overall, and impressive diversification for such a powerful company.
Interested in that "unfavorable foreign currency impact" on operating income. Our market (Argentina) has relatively convenient prices in the Xbox store when compared to the current exchange rate, so I guess we are a factor, among others (Turkey?).
They seem to be increasingly indifferent about which hardware do you play their games on, as long as you pay for some of their services. They would love to sell billions of consoles, of course, but they are the most hardware agnostic platform among the Big Three and their plans trascend the closed, plastic boxes of past generations.
Also, a significant portion of the market simply seems to prefer playing on a console rather than on a PC. That is my case, for example.
Interested in that "unfavorable foreign currency impact" on operating income. Our market (Argentina) has relatively convenient prices in the Xbox store when compared to the current exchange rate, so I guess we are a factor, among others (Turkey?).
They seem to be increasingly indifferent about which hardware do you play their games on, as long as you pay for some of their services. They would love to sell billions of consoles, of course, but they are the most hardware agnostic platform among the Big Three and their plans trascend the closed, plastic boxes of past generations.
Also, a significant portion of the market simply seems to prefer playing on a console rather than on a PC. That is my case, for example.
Publisher buyouts are risky, especially for MS, since a large portion of their consumer base are on different platforms. I can't see that happening for either, but I can see something like Sony funding a few third party exclusives to drum up PS5 hype early on.
I'm sure MS is willing to spend as they typically do to push the Xbox brand well into next gen, but they should anticipate that Sony will be retaliating a lot more this time around. People forget that the first few years of the PS4 had Sony still recovering from PS3 missteps and they didn't have 10+ million selling first party games releasing regularly like they do now. In that sense, Sony was at a financial disadvantage early on in competing for the market this gen.
This and I'm glad they are doing this. Xbox, Xcloud, Steam, Windows store and probably, Switch and EGS at some point.
No they don't because you bought their games. Which is what they wanted.
But 33% decrease in revenue is because volumes of consoles sold were down, also, they didn't specified it how much.
The funny thing is that this does not seem to relate mainly to progressive political positions, but rather to (as the Soulfly song said) new millenium tribal wars.
No, Xbox Live Active Users are users that have logged into Xbox Live. AFAIK the exact criteria was never released, but we can assume that those numbers include players that have launched a title at least once in the quarter.
Tbh, XBL Gold subscriptions are likely less than half of all Xbox One units sold. Least that's what I think.
It seems Xbox has been doing ok lately.
Gaming software and services grew 31% which is amazing. Glad to see MS going strong.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2019-Q2/press-release-webcast
wow. Azure is a beast.
Edit - Link is for the results for the previous quarter.
Gaming software and services grew 31% which is amazing. Glad to see MS going strong.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2019-Q2/press-release-webcast
wow. Azure is a beast.
Edit - Link is for the results for the previous quarter.
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Oh okay. Good to know. Thanks. But wait, does this number include Xbox 360? Or is it just Xbox One? Either way, Gold (and PS+) is easy money so I don't see either going anywhere. Thanks again.
This number includes Xbox 360, Xbox One, Windows 10, Minecraft on Switch and Xbox Live on iOS and Android.
Yeah, Thanks. Azure has been doing crazy numbers for MS though,
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They really don't. Hardware itself might not be a profit maker but licensing fees for 3rd party software trumps all. The whole point of putting their games on PC is to get revenue from people who wouldn't have bought the hardware in the first place.