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cyrribrae

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Jan 21, 2019
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Interesting. Gaming revenue was actually lower than they expected. Looks like they hoped to sell more consoles and for 3rd party games to monetize better as well. They expect a lower yoy next quarter, too. Fantastic quarter all around regardless.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Congratulations on finding Phil's loophole.

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Oct 26, 2017
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Oh okay. Good to know. Thanks. But wait, does this number include Xbox 360? Or is it just Xbox One? Either way, Gold (and PS+) is easy money so I don't see either going anywhere. Thanks again.

It includes Xbox 360 and any Xbox Live enabled game (Minecraft on iOS/Android/Switch, etc).

Gold isn't going away but a few of us believe the MP paywall will come down one day. ^.^

They really don't. Hardware itself might not be a profit maker but licensing fees for 3rd party software trumps all. The whole point of putting their games on PC is to get revenue from people who wouldn't have bought the hardware in the first place.
Agreed!
 

Ardiloso

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Oct 27, 2017
2,368
Brazil
I'm already amused watching people ITT act like they don't know selling hardware isn't the most important thing for Microsoft. Maybe it's a sport.
 

CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Western Canada
Surprisingly negative thread. Microsoft gaming grows YoY in XB1's twilight, despite not having boosted XB1X sales to prop it up like last year. Services performing very strongly. Guess that's a bad thing.
 

TheHunter

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Oct 25, 2017
25,774
Surprisingly negative thread. Microsoft gaming grows YoY in XB1's twilight, despite not having boosted XB1X sales to prop it up like last year. Services performing very strongly. Guess that's a bad thing.
"You see, it isn't selling better than PS4 and Switch, therefor I win."

I guess that means Pepsi should go away.

And Burger King.

And any cheese product not called Kraft.
 

peter42O

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Apr 21, 2019
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This number includes Xbox 360, Xbox One, Windows 10, Minecraft on Switch and Xbox Live on iOS and Android.

It includes Xbox 360 and any Xbox Live enabled game (Minecraft on iOS/Android/Switch, etc).

Gold isn't going away but a few of us believe the MP paywall will come down one day. ^.^

Thanks guys. Appreciate the info. And yeah, I don't believe that the MP paywall will ever go away simply because they make way too much money off of it.
 

SlipperyMoose

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Oct 28, 2017
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MaulerX

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I've said this before but the rules of who "wins" seem to be changing. MS seem to be in a unique position to possibly get the most gaming revenue while actually selling less hardware.
 

Buff Beefbroth

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Apr 12, 2018
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Surprisingly negative thread. Microsoft gaming grows YoY in XB1's twilight, despite not having boosted XB1X sales to prop it up like last year. Services performing very strongly. Guess that's a bad thing.

Lots of old folks on this forum who haven't got the memo on how making fun of Microsoft is no longer a sign of a cool, discerning individual.
 

LordOcidax

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've said this before but the rules of who "wins" seem to be changing. MS seem to be in a unique position to possibly get the most gaming revenue while actually selling less hardware.
Nop, most hardware sold = Win. And Is not going to change, if Microsoft was the number 1 selling hardware at this point, the PR was totally different.
 

Dee Harp

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Nov 7, 2017
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There are alot of none xbox products included in those numbers. Linked in, github, surface and many others.
 

Rocco

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Oct 27, 2017
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why would I buy a XBox if I can have their games on my PC?
That's a question MS needs to provide a good answer to.

You obviously don't actually want this answer as it was provided by Microsoft literally years ago on gaming's biggest stage and reinforced countless upon countless times since. There is an entire Xbox brand initiative behind answering that very question.
 

Thatguy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Eh the increase includes windows 10. I bet it's almost all windows 10, and almost all of those are very casual gamers looking to play solitaire. I would love to see the actual numbers and be proved wrong though.
 

Kerotan

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Oct 31, 2018
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33% drop in consoles sold? Losing momentum rapidly as next gen approaches. Revenue is good but growth is to be expected.
 

nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
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hardware is increasingly becoming irrelevant. Services is much more important than console sold.

If anything it's currently the complete opposite, the more hardware you can sell, the larger the install base through which to sell software, DLC, services, subscriptions etc. The success of Nintendo and Sony, in almost every category (hardware, software and services) make this abundantly clear.
 

AR Starts

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Oct 27, 2017
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If anything it's currently the complete opposite, the more hardware you can sell, the larger the install base through which to sell software, DLC, services, subscriptions etc. The success of Nintendo and Sony, in almost every category (hardware, software and services) make this abundantly clear.

It's both. MS gaming division is profitable during a shit gen for them. That is a major coup. Other companies have failed to survive during these times. MS is growing and reloading.
 

MrTired

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's both. MS gaming division is profitable during a shit gen for them. That is a major coup. Other companies have failed to survive during these times. MS is growing and reloading.
Do you have a source for the bolded statement? Cause to my knowledge Microsoft haven't released profit figures for the Gaming division this gen.
 

The_R3medy

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Jan 22, 2018
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Surprisingly negative thread. Microsoft gaming grows YoY in XB1's twilight, despite not having boosted XB1X sales to prop it up like last year. Services performing very strongly. Guess that's a bad thing.


It's because Era has this weird hatred toward Xbox. Like, don't get me wrong, they absolutely botched this generation's launch and early years (up through the MCC launch), but in the year's following they've righted the ship.

It's this weird internet culture of wanting to see things fail rather than being happy when they succeed.
 

nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's both. MS gaming division is profitable during a shit gen for them. That is a major coup. Other companies have failed to survive during these times. MS is growing and reloading.

We don't know that Microsoft's gaming division is profitable, they don't release profit/loss figures in their reports and haven't done for some time (unlike Nintendo and Sony). Thurrot (well known tech and Microsoft insider) seems to imply the complete opposite, that Xbox has never been profitable, even this gen. With recent acquisitions and Game Pass etc, I'd imagine that is still the case today, though of course we can't know for sure.

Thurrott said:
Gaming is "growing profitably"? Wait. What?

One of the dirty little secrets of Microsoft's Xbox/gaming business is that it has never actually turned a profit. So I was curious to hear Mr. Nadella utter these contorted words last night: "Our gaming business is now more than $9 billion, and growing profitably." So. $9 billion is revenues, not profits. So growing means that revenues are growing. And growing profitably means … what? That the business is "becoming profitable"? Or is it just growing revenues positively? Was this a misstatement? What does that mean? Here's my guess. He means usage and engagement are growing. Because I can state this with certainty: Microsoft's gaming business is not profitable. In fact, it's undergoing a digital transformation of its own.

https://www.petri.com/paul-thurrotts-short-takes-microsoft-earnings-special-edition-7
 
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DrDeckard

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's because Era has this weird hatred toward Xbox. Like, don't get me wrong, they absolutely botched this generation's launch and early years (up through the MCC launch), but in the year's following they've righted the ship.

It's this weird internet culture of wanting to see things fail rather than being happy when they succeed.

Era is strange for this. I cant figure it out. It's like theres a load of the "egg bill gates" people still around but microsift haven't done anything wrong in the past few years and only seem to be going from strength to strength.