Microsoft Studios |OT3| I thought they were supposed to be sold off by now

Oct 27, 2017
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No argument there I just think from a point of need versus want, I see no real want (i.e. demand) of another racer when they have FM and FH. Not when there are so many other genres out there and ones they are in need of.
Agreed.

With Sumo, the racing team would be a part of the package and not the only reason to buy the company.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's seems MS has considered buying EA, but probably thought it was better to buy independent studios. I still say they buy someone like Sega in the next two years.
 
May 9, 2018
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It's seems MS has considered buying EA, but probably thought it was better to buy independent studios. I still say they buy someone like Sega in the next two years.
Been on the cards for years but it’s never happened. If I was ms I’d buy them just to rebrand the Xbox in Japan to Sega (insert name).
 
Nov 2, 2017
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For Crackdown / open world games alone? Probably Volition. They have a lot more experience in the field. We'll see how CD3 turns out though.

For what the entire company could offer Xbox? Sumo Digital.
-The CD3 team could continue working on Crackdown
-Team Sonic Racing team on a kart racer or a third pillar racing game alongside Motorsport and Horizon.
-Snake Pass team on family friendly projects
-The Chinese Room on horror / story driven atmospheric games
I like the idea of Sumo as an acquisition because almost everything they make fits the Game Pass model. They have 4 teams that work on a variety of different things. They handle ports, other studio IP and make their own stuff. Would be a good studio to give older IPs to and they can continue to take chances on some of their original niche stuff. Seem like the right team to handle Mech Assualt, Crimson Skies and some of Rares older IPs.

Buying Sumo would be like purchasing 4 AA developers except since those teams are used to working under one company, they’d be more flexible than 4 studios out on their own island.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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So far there has been so much good news but that article about how Phil wants Game Pass on every platform sounds weird to me. If he means not only PC and phones but also the competitor's consoles.... why would potential Xbox buyers even consider grabbing a Xbox One or Scarlett in two years? And that would mean all the new studios with their new games would be all available on Switch and Playstation?

I don't believe that for a second. Because again, many players would just stick with PS or Switch if that's gonna be the case. That can't be Phil's intention. Sure, the "loyal" Xbox players will stick around but what about potential new players? I'm probably seeing it the wrong way but I do wonder how else I am supposed to see it.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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So far there has been so much good news but that article about how Phil wants Game Pass on every platform sounds weird to me. If he means not only PC and phones but also the competitor's consoles.... why would potential Xbox buyers even consider grabbing a Xbox One or Scarlett in two years? And that would mean all the new studios with their new games would be all available on Switch and Playstation?

I don't believe that for a second. Because again, many players would just stick with PS or Switch if that's gonna be the case. That can't be Phil's intention. Sure, the "loyal" Xbox players will stick around but what about potential new players? I'm probably seeing it the wrong way but I do wonder how else I am supposed to see it.
Microsoft doesn't care where you play, they just care that you are subscribed and can monetize on top of that. Devices don't matter, users do.
 
Oct 27, 2017
759
So far there has been so much good news but that article about how Phil wants Game Pass on every platform sounds weird to me. If he means not only PC and phones but also the competitor's consoles.... why would potential Xbox buyers even consider grabbing a Xbox One or Scarlett in two years? And that would mean all the new studios with their new games would be all available on Switch and Playstation?

I don't believe that for a second. Because again, many players would just stick with PS or Switch if that's gonna be the case. That can't be Phil's intention. Sure, the "loyal" Xbox players will stick around but what about potential new players? I'm probably seeing it the wrong way but I do wonder how else I am supposed to see it.
They believe that ecosystems, services and subscriptions are vital parts of the future of gaming. They want XBL and their services to be available on as many platforms as possible. And they want the users on those platforms to be exposed to Microsoft's ecosystem and services. Whether or not Sony is going to let that happen is a different question altogether.

Game Pass on other platforms than Xbox and PC is likely going to be streaming based anyways as I doubt MS wants to devote too many resources to multiplatform development.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Microsoft doesn't care where you play, they just care that you are subscribed and can monetize on top of that. Devices don't matter, users do.
They believe that ecosystems, services and subscriptions are vital parts of the future of gaming. They want XBL and their services to be available on as many platforms as possible. And they want the users on those platforms to be exposed to Microsoft's ecosystem and services. Whether or not Sony is going to let that happen is a different question altogether.

Game Pass on other platforms than Xbox and PC is likely going to be streaming based anyways as I doubt MS wants to devote too many resources to multiplatform development.

Hmmm I see. Yeah I really don't believe Sony will allow it at all, they sure didn't allow EA Access. Nintendo.... doubt that. Besides wouldn't that mean a lot of the exclusives especially would need a significant downgrade of some sort to be able to run on Switch or a future Nintendo system which undoubtedly won't compete with Scarlett power wise?

Whatever the case, I just hope we'll be having traditional Xbox systems for a long time. Let that streaming only future be far into the future please :(
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,202
Germany
So far there has been so much good news but that article about how Phil wants Game Pass on every platform sounds weird to me. If he means not only PC and phones but also the competitor's consoles.... why would potential Xbox buyers even consider grabbing a Xbox One or Scarlett in two years? And that would mean all the new studios with their new games would be all available on Switch and Playstation?

I don't believe that for a second. Because again, many players would just stick with PS or Switch if that's gonna be the case. That can't be Phil's intention. Sure, the "loyal" Xbox players will stick around but what about potential new players? I'm probably seeing it the wrong way but I do wonder how else I am supposed to see it.
The mistake you are doing looks like this:

Xbox = Hardware.

This is wrong. Hardware is just a small part of the Xbox division. Does MS still want to sell hardware? Hell, of course they want that. This is why they will have multiple options for hardware for next-gen. And yes, this is also why they will - probably - offer the strongest console you can play their games on as an option. But that’s - not at all - their main intention. Hardware is just one - of many possible - entry points to their ecosystem. A gamer playing Forza Horizon 4 on an iPad is their user - their customer - spending money and time in the Xbox ecosystem just like someone who plays the game on his premium Xbox V.

So the correct definition should be

Xbox = a user in their ecosystem.

You will have a much better understanding about the future if you keep that in mind.

An Xbox exclusive game like Halo: Infinite will still be an exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem no matter which device you are playing this game on.
 
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So far there has been so much good news but that article about how Phil wants Game Pass on every platform sounds weird to me. If he means not only PC and phones but also the competitor's consoles.... why would potential Xbox buyers even consider grabbing a Xbox One or Scarlett in two years? And that would mean all the new studios with their new games would be all available on Switch and Playstation?

I don't believe that for a second. Because again, many players would just stick with PS or Switch if that's gonna be the case. That can't be Phil's intention. Sure, the "loyal" Xbox players will stick around but what about potential new players? I'm probably seeing it the wrong way but I do wonder how else I am supposed to see it.
I don’t think that will happen in the next generation microsoft is going to have it all over tablets,laptops and phones and certain smart TVs that’s why we are starting to see all the articles on it majolry with the media all a sudden seems like they are about to make a major move would they put it on Nintendo & PlayStation maybe in a generation down the line if consoles are still a thing but at this point I don’t see them paying 30% to anyone except maybe Apple to get into their base.
 
Oct 27, 2017
759
Hmmm I see. Yeah I really don't believe Sony will allow it at all, they sure didn't allow EA Access. Nintendo.... doubt that. Besides wouldn't that mean a lot of the exclusives especially would need a significant downgrade of some sort to be able to run on Switch or a future Nintendo system which undoubtedly won't compete with Scarlett power wise?

Whatever the case, I just hope we'll be having traditional Xbox systems for a long time. Let that streaming only future be far into the future please :(
Hence why I think Game Pass other platforms will use a streaming solution. If it happens at all, that is.
 
Apr 9, 2018
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The mistake you are doing looks like this:

Xbox = Hardware.

This is wrong. Hardware is just a small part of the Xbox division. Does MS still want to sell hardware? Hell, of course they want that. But that’s - not at all - their main intention. Hardware is just one - of many possible - entry points to their ecosystem. A gamer playing Forza Horizon 4 on an iPad is their user - their customer - spending money and time in the Xbox ecosystem. The correct definition should be

Xbox = a user in their ecosystem.

You will have a much better understanding about the future if you keep that in mind.
I get what your saying but I don't see that many people are going to want to play on their iPad or phones. I think this generation showed that people want a traditional console 1st and everything else is secondary. The games will attract the consumers. I just don't see this pivot they're doing working at all down the road but we'll see. I honestly believe that if they went 3rd party their games would sell like fucking hotcakes due to having that exposure to other markets they may have not had before. Oh and bring back Viva Pinata you fucks.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I get what your saying but I don't see that many people are going to want to play on their iPad or phones. I think this generation showed that people want a traditional console 1st and everything else is secondary. The games will attract the consumers. I just don't see this pivot they're doing working at all down the road but we'll see. I honestly believe that if they went 3rd party their games would sell like fucking hotcakes due to having that exposure to other markets they may have not had before. Oh and bring back Viva Pinata you fucks.
You don't see it that way because you are a console/pc gamer. Most people who play fortnite and such play on mobile. The next generation of gamers don't care for consoles AS MUCH as we do. Majority of asia's market are mobile gamers. They don't give a fuck about consoles (shit, look at japan). There are a lot of people here who are jaded and don't see beyond what they know. Mobile and streaming will be the majority quicker than you think (as long as it works)
 
Nov 4, 2017
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I was watching cable last night and I was just somewhat surprised at how clear the imagine looked. It was nothing mindblowing but just a sharper imagine.

Then this morning it hit me, my Xbox One X is doing it!!! So I have a 4k t.v. and Xfinity (comcast) which only outputs at 1080p. My t.v. only has 3 HDMI outputs and I just recently picked up a Swtich to add to my collection, so I had to hook up my cable into the Xbox so I could free up a port for the switch.

Since my Xbox is set to 4k with my t.v., everything being output on that HMDI is registering at 4k so running my cable through the xbox is upscaling the image and I'm pretty impressed at the quality.

The only downfall is sometimes the lip synching gets off if the image hitches through the xbox.

Just wanted to post this and show my appreciation for the X, its definitely worth every penny.
 
I get what your saying but I don't see that many people are going to want to play on their iPad or phones. I think this generation showed that people want a traditional console 1st and everything else is secondary. The games will attract the consumers. I just don't see this pivot they're doing working at all down the road but we'll see. I honestly believe that if they went 3rd party their games would sell like fucking hotcakes due to having that exposure to other markets they may have not had before. Oh and bring back Viva Pinata you fucks.
I think it will become second nature console will always be king to the hardcore but being able to play on the go on devices I already use will be even better sitting at the mall with my wife or going to my kids practice or a long drive I can play console games. People who can’t afford or maybe don’t want to spend that type of money can pay 10 dollars a month and have a bunch of games on demand Is amazing I know it’s scary for some of the old guard and for console war purposes it doesn’t sit well with those guys but once you get past those things not having the limitations is a great thing enjoy being in the future we’ll be able to play more games and at the same time be able to save money.
 
Oct 26, 2018
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I HIGHLY doubt they'll put game pass/xcloud on a competing platform /console...... Putting it on mobile and pc makes sense because its not direct competition and just broadening the ecosystem of Xbox, putting it on another console is no different to being 3rd party
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,691
Germany
I HIGHLY doubt they'll put game pass/xcloud on a competing platform /console...... Putting it on mobile and pc makes sense because its not direct competition and just broadening the ecosystem of Xbox, putting it on another console is no different to being 3rd party
That is what P. S. is talking about. Game Pass eventually will be available to Android, iOS, MacOS, Linux and already confirmed PC.
 
Aug 24, 2018
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The Haven
I HIGHLY doubt they'll put game pass/xcloud on a competing platform /console...... Putting it on mobile and pc makes sense because its not direct competition and just broadening the ecosystem of Xbox, putting it on another console is no different to being 3rd party
Yeah, it'll never be on competing platforms like the Playstation of Switch. It will be on the next Xbox system and mobile platforms though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I HIGHLY doubt they'll put game pass/xcloud on a competing platform /console...... Putting it on mobile and pc makes sense because its not direct competition and just broadening the ecosystem of Xbox, putting it on another console is no different to being 3rd party
I can see Microsoft trying to convince Nintendo.

I think there were rumors about Microsoft and Nintendo working on some surprising things together — it was around the time that Minecraft crossplay was being advertised.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Watertown, NY
The mistake you are doing looks like this:

Xbox = Hardware.

This is wrong. Hardware is just a small part of the Xbox division. Does MS still want to sell hardware? Hell, of course they want that. This is why they will have multiple options for hardware for next-gen. And yes, this is also why they will - probably - offer the strongest console you can play their games on as an option. But that’s - not at all - their main intention. Hardware is just one - of many possible - entry points to their ecosystem. A gamer playing Forza Horizon 4 on an iPad is their user - their customer - spending money and time in the Xbox ecosystem just like someone who plays the game on his premium Xbox V.

So the correct definition should be

Xbox = a user in their ecosystem.

You will have a much better understanding about the future if you keep that in mind.

An Xbox exclusive game like Halo: Infinite will still be an exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem no matter which device you are playing this game on.
Thing is until they get the PC side up to snuff where people want to actually use it, and make Gamepass easy to use within PC/Mobile they need the hardware sales more than ever for brand relevancy.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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while idk if they were talking about sony and nin. i could see them allowing the streaming app on there platforms. My thinking is that is that sony will let it on because it would give people more reason to buy a ps5. Buy a ps5 get sonys games plus stream ms games. Granted this is all based on the idea that sony will let people use a Microsoft account on the system
 
Oct 27, 2017
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We go back to this conversation it seems once a month. Microsoft wants XCloud on Xbox, Android, IOS, PC, and MAC. Im sure TV's as well if they can get them on there.

Even if, and this is a BIG IF; If Microsoft wanted XCloud on a competing platform (Sony, Nintendo), they likely would decline. They do not want a competing store on their platform. IOS may also have the same issue as they declined Steam Link. Nintendo declined Rainway. Sony didnt even like the idea of Fortnite players paying on another device.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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didnt 'cloud computing" turn out to be a big fat lie
Well, a game based on it is coming out in February, so definitely not a lie. But yeah, it took almost an entire gen to take off, so it looks like it was more complex than they thought. But next gen they could start using it in a bigger way.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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UK
I get what your saying but I don't see that many people are going to want to play on their iPad or phones. I think this generation showed that people want a traditional console 1st and everything else is secondary. The games will attract the consumers. I just don't see this pivot they're doing working at all down the road but we'll see. I honestly believe that if they went 3rd party their games would sell like fucking hotcakes due to having that exposure to other markets they may have not had before. Oh and bring back Viva Pinata you fucks.
Switch has shown that many people want to take their games with them wherever they go. That's xCloud. You're playing Below on your XBO, then continue it on your tablet whilst you're on your lunch break at work.

Microsoft has also iterated that xCloud is being designed for 5G - which will become a big thing next year, it's low latency and has the bandwidth to provide unlimited data packages. So a WiFi connection won't be required for xCloud. Certainly by 2020/21 5G will have become standard in many countries.

And before someone thinks they're being clever and says "Remote Play" let's just remember the technology and execution here is vastly different.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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We go back to this conversation it seems once a month. Microsoft wants XCloud on Xbox, Android, IOS, PC, and MAC. Im sure TV's as well if they can get them on there.

Even if, and this is a BIG IF; If Microsoft wanted XCloud on a competing platform (Sony, Nintendo), they likely would decline. They do not want a competing store on their platform. IOS may also have the same issue as they declined Steam Link. Nintendo declined Rainway. Sony didnt even like the idea of Fortnite players paying on another device.
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feels like we're going round in circles, its been confirmed to be coming to IOS, Andriod and PC but at no point has it ever been specifically stated that it will come to PS or Switch, nor will it ever come to PS for the same reasons that Sony passed on EA Access, dragged its feet with Fortnite and doesn't let Minecraft be updated.
 
Oct 28, 2018
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I get what your saying but I don't see that many people are going to want to play on their iPad or phones. I think this generation showed that people want a traditional console 1st and everything else is secondary. The games will attract the consumers. I just don't see this pivot they're doing working at all down the road but we'll see. I honestly believe that if they went 3rd party their games would sell like fucking hotcakes due to having that exposure to other markets they may have not had before. Oh and bring back Viva Pinata you fucks.
Think about this way: you're a console gamer. You stay at home and play your Xbox games on your nice fancy TV. Then you have to go out of town, for business or personal reasons or what have you. Now you can bring your games with you without having to box up your console. It's essentially just a Nintendo Switch, except instead of building a portable device, Microsoft is leveraging the ones you already own.
 
Dec 3, 2018
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feels like we're going round in circles, its been confirmed to be coming to IOS, Andriod and PC but at no point has it ever been specifically stated that it will come to PS or Switch, nor will it ever come to PS for the same reasons that Sony passed on EA Access, dragged its feet with Fortnite and doesn't let Minecraft be updated.
Exactly people thinking they are going to be able to play Halo Infinite on Nintendo Switch are dreaming. I get Xbox, PC, Phones and Smart TV's but I don't think MS wants to release their games on PS4 and Switch, nor would those platforms would allow that.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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feels like we're going round in circles, its been confirmed to be coming to IOS, Andriod and PC but at no point has it ever been specifically stated that it will come to PS or Switch, nor will it ever come to PS for the same reasons that Sony passed on EA Access, dragged its feet with Fortnite and doesn't let Minecraft be updated.
For the near future, bank on XCloud being on Xbox, Android, and PC. Hopefully IOS as well, but we will see about that. I wouldnt read into much of anything else unless Microsoft themselves said something different which they havent.
 
May 9, 2018
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I wondered if this was going to happen. Doesn't make sense because if it did, I'd probably just not game on my Xbox much anymore... which is like what I'm sure MSFT doesn't want.
its not going on PS, they dont even allow EA Access.

im sure they are fine with you subscribing to there monthly service even if you dont own there box.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Sony and Nintendo have no reason to put GamePass on their devices. Microsoft will start out with Game Pass on PC, then mobile, and TVs, and even the web (don't be surprised). MS will want it on as many platforms as possible.
 
Apr 9, 2018
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Think about this way: you're a console gamer. You stay at home and play your Xbox games on your nice fancy TV. Then you have to go out of town, for business or personal reasons or what have you. Now you can bring your games with you without having to box up your console. It's essentially just a Nintendo Switch, except instead of building a portable device, Microsoft is leveraging the ones you already own.
That’s the thing. I don’t think the majority of people are going to want to do that. It’ll have its niche sure but I just don’t see it being the go-to.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Germany
What an amazing article. Everyone should give this a read.

We also spent quite a bit of time with the development groups they purchased and their teams could not have been more enthusiastic about how fortunate they felt to finally be given the time and money to create. I only know the Microsoft under Phil Spencer and Matt Booty and they are passionate gamers who care deeply about supporting talent. More important than words and promises will be the games that come from us in the future, that will be the proof.
It is an absolute benefit to have a business model that allows Microsoft to support our dreams. The stable of development support we'll have access to is unlike anything that we've used before. We were blown away by the tools we'll be able to use that will allow us to hone our craft.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That’s the thing. I don’t think the majority of people are going to want to do that. It’ll have its niche sure but I just don’t see it being the go-to.
For most of us on this forum will always choose a dedicated device (Console, PC, or Handheld) to play our games on. Xcloud and other streaming services are targeting the rest of the world. Countries in Asia as an example, or just casual gamers that have no interest in building their own PC, or buying a $500 console.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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