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Microsoft Studios |OT3| I thought they were supposed to be sold off by now
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Doesn't Microsoft technically still own a piece of bungie? And Activision letting them leave with the I.P. NetEase got deep pockets
Way too big, plus them owning GOG would complicate things.
Not that I'd want them to buy Bungie. If they want a AAA FPS studio there's 4A, have them work on Wastelands!
Technically, Microsoft had a minority stake, but we do not know if that's still true. Also, NetEase has a minority stake.
The store works for many people. That has always been acknowledged. The trouble is it doesn't work for a large amount of people. It sometimes works for one game and not another. Updates will fix it for some people and break it for others.
I predict new Microsoft just MARKETING deal with them and that's it.
It was to fund their new project with NetEase, and keep running.
It doesn't make a sale impossible, but does give light to how expensive it would be.
Today I was thinking about it, and it's just a feeling, but I think that if they don't save a new studio announcement for E3 is because they don't plan to stop getting interesting teams anytime soon
Thanks, clarification appreciated
Well, I won't ask the obvious question that comes to my mind and just wait for things to be close to a final version
Not saying that's what you said or implied, but reading this immediately made me think of the team that MS is putting together to work with devs and publishers in Asia
I'd personally prefer if they don't take that route.
Idk about Ghost of Tsushima, I'm always open to be surprised, but when that has been attempted you get things like "The Wolverine"
If any of you have seen I'm sure you know what I mean hahah
The problem with Ukraine is that you risk waking up one day and you're in Russia.
Ok, I'll stop
I might be wrong but I think I heard somewhere about earlythis year in some kind of beta (Larry at XO?)
Team 50 by 2025 :p
Well, if they're after those 2 billion gamers that's just a 5% of the marketshare
Is it though?
I mean, I've seen this argument used before but I don't understand it.
If you were to increase your games output, won't you need to increase the workforce in the publishing arm?
Maybe not a 1:1 increase but I don't know if there's really need to loose all those jobs. They could use the publishing part of EA to publish the dev side's games just with Xbox branding instead of EA
Or am I horribly wrong? Hahaha
Not saying it's happening but management at Xbox was different and they've worked closely with Phil Spencer when he was Head of Microsoft Studios.
Just meant it as not more impossible than other things we say hahah
I dream of an Activision-free Blizzard.
But no one would ever part with Blizzard's IPs
Yes.
Lots of people work at publishers who don't directly make games, and most of those people would be made redundant.
Also, supporting fewer platforms means you need fewer devs.
Thousands of jobs would be lost, and the industry would become even more consolidated. It's bad news all around.
Exactly, mine was broken (the store close itself after few seconds after open) by a previous upgrade but seems fixed by another one recently, It's just don't feel reliable.
and even if it's working fine, it's a very barebone app store which is not designed specifically for game.
on the other hand, I have a much better experience using the Xbox app.
Preach.
Hope we can stop talking about buying publishers for the next couple of months.
Probably not..
Yah that's why I was thinking of how many subs they'd need to sustain 30 studios. Seems like at least 1 million active subscribers (not including free subs or 1$ subs)
Wouldn't surprise me if they at least had 36 total teams
That combined with the fact that not every game needs 3 years (some only need 2), I think that this can work.
Chances of Bungie going back to MS for maybe helping 343 with future Halo games? Or more likely Sony gonna pick them up or will they remain independent like IO?
doubtful.
I see bungie being a independent studio for 4-6 years atm
I dont think consolidation is a good idea (nor am I supporting the idea) however I do think that sooner or later its going to happen, it just depends on where exactly they end up.
Realistically a streaming/platform holder might be the major supporter of their platform and then indies fill out the rest
Eventually it's going to happen though, just like every form of entertainment. A couple of sharks gobble up the smaller fish and that's life.
Not saying that's what we want but it's inevitable.
Companies like EA or Activision don't need to go away, the market can support them fine.
We shouldn't be resigned to a fully consolidated future.
EA, ATVI, etc are already big sharks, and the industry is already consolidated like most forms of entertainment. What is being proposed here goes way beyond that.
Do you think there could be competition between Google, Amazon and MS to acquire studios? I only ask this because Amazon and Google might think content is important for their future gaming streaming plans and of course MS has a big advantage there, so things could get a lot more expensive in the future for MS if that is the case.
Or are you not expecting Amazon and Google to start acquiring anyone?
Edit: Or worse, Amazon and Google acquire someone big, since for them it might make more sense but it would be worse for everyone else if they lock that content behind a streaming service.
With Spencer tweeting them etc..
Maybe a marketing deal at best?
For a future new IP? But Bungie is working on a new IP with Tencent too, aren't they? Or am I thinking of a different dev now?
Spencer just tweeted them because he loves Destiny and just looking forward to what Bungie will do as an independent studio.
Don't read too much into it.
MosquitoSmasher
NetEase invested $100M and got a seat in the Board. Bungie is working on a game for them on their "second" studio.
Don't read too much into it.
MosquitoSmasher
NetEase invested $100M and got a seat in the Board. Bungie is working on a game for them on their "second" studio.
Oh, I wasn't
I still think Bungie would do business with Sony before MS.
With activision out of the picture I think it's a lot more possible, I think they'll work together again in some capacity.
Ironically enough
Major Nelson was playing Destiny 2 this past week. Thought it was funny. Hes usually on SOT or AC Odyssey.
The wording of Phil Spencer's tweet was very deliberately referring to them as independent. He's basically trying to quash acquisition rumours.
It was always clear that gears 4 was a straight return back to the origins, little story, darkness, very few micheal bay moment, while 5 was the one that had to mix everything. Still worried that is just chasing that dumb trend of dramatic cinematic experience launched by sony, which I think hurted all the gaming btw
It was more an activision choice than a bungie one to partner with sony.
Pretty interesting from now. An indipendent studio of that size pushing a pseudo mmo gaas without a publisher backing them? pretty unique and interesting, especially now with the division and anthem aproaching
I'll be interested to see if Bungie stays multiplatform third party (for the most part) or kinda goes more of a pairing with MS like Insomniac does with Sony.
With that said though, I'm glad Bungie is away from Activision, aside from Spyro: Reignited, the last Activision I've bought was Overwatch (and vanilla Activision is Advanced Warfare). They've done too many anti-consumer things over the past few years to make me feed them much of my money.
With that said though, I'm glad Bungie is away from Activision, aside from Spyro: Reignited, the last Activision I've bought was Overwatch (and vanilla Activision is Advanced Warfare). They've done too many anti-consumer things over the past few years to make me feed them much of my money.
That would be 100 million a month, 100 million subs would be a billion a month.
The same could have been said about Obsidian after the plug was pulled on Stormlands. You never know, and money has a lot of pull!
Yeah. Funding 30 development teams + doing marketing + platform work + third party support on Gamepass costs a lot of money.
If talking about 150 - 200 people studios.. only these studios would cost around 500 million dollars per year (my rough estimate). Not including all the marketing and platform work.
I gathered the same after reading it a few times. first couple times i was like
Bungie is three times the size of Obsidian. Twice the size of 343i..
As mentioned before, Phil and Mike are huge Destiny fans. Phil congratulates most of the big release devs on the SONY side too (not so sure about Nintendo though).
Plus they're ex-Microsoft family. Phil worked with them quite a bit (and I'd assume Ybarra too?).
I really hope Phil doesn't acquire Bungie, they're way past their prime and there way better alternatives. ReSpawn would of been a better choice if they didn't get scooped up by EA
I'm still hoping to at least see IO, Turtle Rock, Moon and maybe 3 others this year.
I'm still hoping to at least see IO, Turtle Rock, Moon and maybe 3 others this year.
1000 devs, and Destiny is all they have to show for it? Talk about a giant waste.
Isn't basically everyone at BioWare right now working on Anthem? That's like 800+ people.
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