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Microsoft Studios |OT3| I thought they were supposed to be sold off by now
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There is so much wrong in this article ...
"We assume that the game has a singleplayer campaign, but we haven't heard anything about it since the game was announced."
What? Lol. No, we don't "assume" that. We got a ton of campaign gameplay in 2017 and another campaign trailer at E3 2018.
"We also assume that there is a co-op component to the game, but again, we haven't heard anything about it in ages."
Wrong. We don't "assume" that. We know it officially. The official product page shows coop for ages. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/crackdown-3
"We don't know about any other multiplayer modes that might be included, though."
Wrong. WindowsCentral had an in-depth article on Wrecking Zone, including the different sub-modes within Wrecking Zone.
You don't market a 2019 product just before Christmas when people can't play that game yet anyway.
Just like they did with Sea of Thieves, they will concentrate on Crackdown 3 soon enough.
I sometimes wonder what some people think one year of delay did for Crackdown 3 Campaign. It allowed Sumo to polish the shit out of this game and get a ton of content into the world. But in the end this game is still a Crackdown game. This doesn't make the E3 2017 footage invalid - it's still the same game, just like it should be. Arcade. Fun. Platforming. Skills for kills. One big sandbox. If people expect some magical and deep story telling with heavy narrative components or some big hidden gameplay twists - this is not Crackdown.
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I would love to see Tequila Works join the MS Team. Great creativity and potencial good AA development to Gamepass titles.
I disagree. QB was a mediocre shooter, with a far less interesting and much more predictable story than AW. The shooting was frystrating and annoying. The powers were fun though.
What I really loved about AW was the mystical story and lore. It was super interesting. The only part of the gameplay I did not like was the dodging. That was frustrating and not developed well.
It was a joke.
kinda
I think MS realize they can never compete with Steam, so far, their Play anywhere initiative has not been the success they hoped for with lack of AAA/AA third party titles. The prices on the store still are atleast 10$ more expensive in many cases and the good will they have with the services & subscriptions on the Xbox Side has not transferred onto the
I feel they want MS Store to be like a Bing to Google ( Steam). Bing is profitable and has its audience but is no where near Google.
On the whole, just focus on what they are really good at (Enterprise + Gaming) , simplify the store & :
1. Acquire good PC focused studios ( Already going on with Obsidian)
2. Keep price parity with Steam or charge a bit less
3. Integrate Xbox Software & services to the PC Store front ( Xbox Gold, Xbox GP (In 2019), Backward Compatibilty)
4. Hire a PC Gaming guy to head the store efforts & talk to devs ( Similar to Matt Booty)
5. Integrate the communication apps seamlessly ( Discord, Twitch, Mixer)
6. Steam & Xbox Crossplay for all MS Store Third party/Exclusive Access Titles
7. Proper M&KB support in 2019 ( The XO18 segment was very disappointing)
8. Focus on partnerships with companies like Razer, PC Builders, Nvidia (Ray tracing on MS First Party Store titles) and AMD
9. Exclusive Partnerships with Twitch Streamers & Youtube Gamers to promote MS Store Games/Services.
I wouldn't say that AW was boring but it always puzzle me when people say that QB was mediocre. Both games were very good and it's a shame that neither sold well enough for a sequel.
I thought the story was pretty interesting. What was wrong with QB's shooting?
I just finished my replay of Quantum Break, and I have to say I liked it even more than the first two times. It's a great game, and Remedy are probably my favourite studio right now, alongside Playground. Needless to say, MS could do a lot worse than to acquire Remedy.
Nothing. A whole lot of nothing.
Thanks guys.
That doesn't seem like the punishment fits the crime. Seems a little too harsh to me.
I agree but how does one come back from being banned?
I did not like it. The dodging didn't help either.
I fel the only Remedy game with good dodging are Max Payne 1 and 2.
I agree with every word you typed here. Well thought out my man.
With aim assist off I needed to turn aim senstivity down a notch, but time dodge felt great immediately. In fact, I thought that all time powers were brilliant.
Well damn, just for fun I tried to buy another 6 month of game pass for 20,5$. Could previously not do it as it couldn't be extended beyond june 2021. Well what up. It worked. Now Im extended to december 2021.
Remedy does several things with excellent quality:
Remedy sticks to this style, which is not for everyone, obviously... (common sense says debates on personal preference and opinion are irrelevant) but this is why their games amass "cult classic" followings - because of their originality and style.
FWIW, Remedy would fit well with Microsoft First Party Studios.
- Create story-driven narratives;
- Develop dark, mysterious worlds;
- Instill emotional connection between players and characters; and
- Engineer a top-notch graphical engine.
Remedy sticks to this style, which is not for everyone, obviously... (common sense says debates on personal preference and opinion are irrelevant) but this is why their games amass "cult classic" followings - because of their originality and style.
FWIW, Remedy would fit well with Microsoft First Party Studios.
Gameplay akin to Dragons Dogma
World building like Witcher with the 'fable' of monsters, preparing for encounters etc
Art style can be whatever PG want it to be.
Ultimately I just hope they make it their own game and don't get too drawn into trying to replicate the series' previous incarnations. I don't want them to make the same mistake as 343i did when they took on Halo. They need to make it their own game with identity.
Agreed! And I also hope it will have real-time combat, but if it's indeed a new Fable it sure as hell will have and I hope the combat is fun and diverse too. And please be third person but again, if this is Fable it sure as hell will be.
They could make some Christmas present and public some new gameplay footages on Dec 24/25 :)
Later? January and finally in February of course during Inside Xbox.
They do need to make it their own in some way, but that doesn't mean that they can go wild with it. Fable has a specific style that many people like, and want to see back, because there's literally nothing else like it out there. There's exactly zero point in bringing the Fable IP back if you're not going to make it like Fable. Thankfully, MS seem to understand that, they were very outspoken about looking for a British dev who do do its legacy justice.
Funny thing: The actress who plays Beth in Quantum Break is also the protagonist in Control :)
Making it first person would be the quickest way to lose my interest
QB was anything but mediocre. The story alone was Blockbuster, Hollywood-tier storytelling. I LOVE ME some Sci-Fi and the story was epic! The gameplay made you feel really powerful, the gunplay was ace AF. Alan Wake was also a great game with a great story. The movement felt a little floaty though. The atmosphere was second-to-none. One of my favorites. Wish I could play them both for the first time again. Since I cant; Microsoft, buy Remedy so we can remedy the situation. Stop playin' Phil, bruv!
Gold on PC would not go over well unless it was optional.
Is there any chance that Microsoft will buy Discord?
All big tech companies look at Discord and a possible opportunity to buy.
As the EVP of Windows, I think he was focused on getting one billion Windows 10 users in three years. He probably saw that Xbox wasn't going to help close the gap all that much so he diverted resources to initiatives that had more potenetial to do so.
I love the commitment to the time paradox story element. Very consistent.
The status of the Windows Store and Play Anywhere could only be considered a failure if you believe it's current state has anything to do with its endgame. I don't. I believe the current state of the Windows Store is a rotting carcass left from the Myerson regime.
It's very interesting that rumors have been heavy that Microsoft is making pitches to buy Discord while the offer 90% to developers. The trickiest part will be sewing together PC and console together with these financial models. If Microsoft offers splits to developers to compete with Discord and Epic, do they carry some of those splits to the console?
Microsoft's PC efforts will be made or broken by Game Pass, exclusive content and the 3rd party devs they can carry with them across platforms with Xcloud. On those notes, your bring up some valid points. It's a tricky tightrope they have to walk.
But the protagonist in CONTROL isn't Beth, right?
I would like to see true sequel for Quantum Break anyway. Especially that game ended with some kind of cliffhanger.
Im more convinced than ever that Aurora44 would be a home run if they were acquired. I actually dont think they will be, but wow Ashen is good. Im in love with that game. If they want to throw money at any studio, this is the one Id pick.
It's almost as if opinions are subjective. The vast majority of people were disappointed with Quantum Break. Your positive experience doesn't mean the majority of people thought the game was good.
Nah. I talk shit about Myerson as a gamer. It reality, he was a good soldier and long time Microsoft employee. He was Ballmers boy. Ballmer had a very different vision for Microsoft. He wanted to force everything into Windows. Windows was the heart of the company. Everything else had to work with it.
Xbox only was greenlighted to stop Sony from winning the living room because Gates saw Sony as a threat to Windows. Ballmer followed that. When it became clear Sony wasn't a threat and forcing PC gamers to Windows Store wasn't a reality, many major investors within Microsoft wanted them to dump the division. It was a distraction.
If you look at the timing of things, Microsoft's reduction in 1st party investment coincided with the failure to force itself on the PC and the hiring of Mattrick. Mattrick worked under Myserson to see if he could make the Xbox division profitable. It was a not very profitable before him. I think he got lucky because the 360 matured and put the RROD behind them so Mattrick was able to take credit for milking the cow dry while Myerson and Microsoft let Xbox live as long as it wasn't a distraction to Windows. Mattrick does get credit for Kinect which was considered his baby.
Microsoft leaned out Xbox 1st party because it was no longer this long term growth product with any importance to the company. Myerson followed orders. Myerson is my whipping boy because it's hard to attack Ballmer. Truth is Ballmer had a different vision from Nadella and he had a non gaming guy in charge of Xbox investment and long term plans. Myerson was misplaced and it sucked for any gamer that got roped into the Xbox ecosystem back when Microsoft was making those solid investments from 2001 to about 2008.
I really wouldnt say vast majority, as we dont know that. All you can do is speak for yourself. I enjoyed it personally.
Actually, there's a lot of metrics that show how a game was viewed by critics and the general public.
People keep talking about Discord and it makes me feel stupid that I have no idea what that is.
Discord is a PC/Mobile program that has chat functionality and allows you to create groups. You can link it to game services and see what your friends are doing. They also recently launched a game store. It's sort of like a social media site built around the idea of games, although it can be used by non-gamers for chat and groups.
I think the idea is that they'd replace the Windows game store with Discord, but I think it'd be a waste of money. Microsoft needs to continue to invest in first-party content. Eventually, people will come. Content more than service drives users, as displayed by PlayStation outselling Microsoft this generation.
Unless you ask each person that played it whether they liked it or not, I really dont think you can go around saying that as a fact. you're making an assumption.
Critics are not the be all, end all metric.
That's the best part gaming, so many different games for different person. I'm actually the exact opposite. I love Alan Wake and found it quite interesting, from concept to execution, it reminded me of the movie Secret Window, loved the story.
I enjoyed Q.B. but it never clicked. It felt more ambitious than it was. The story was somewhat of a jumbled mess and the action never got beyond the gun play. Even with the time powers, everything boiled down to the shooting mechanics. Again, I enjoyed the game but I didnt find it nearly as interesting as Alan Wake. Felt too much like another 3rd person shooter with a "meh" story and some time mechanics.
Regarding acquiring Remedy as an acquisition, I wonder. Is it worth the effort. They've released quality games but nothing mind blowing even when they have huge budgets.
Thanks for the info. I agree I'd rather see them invest in game developers than a messaging service/store.
Funny thing about QB, the ending cut-scene in the PC version was apparently recorded in Fraps.
Microsoft goal to go beyond consoles is genius
Got an xbox? You are set. But you can also play on pc, with xcloud potentially you can play on any device. Scarlett my have a cheap streaming box. You can also pay their consoles month to month. You have game pass as an alternative to buying games, and has play anywhere across your devices. If you play on their current console you can also access their previous consoles with backwards compatible, etc
They have so many options, and so many ways for you to throw money at them. You can support Microsoft and their business without buying their box, and it's genius. They are making having one static box for your games feel restrictive
Got an xbox? You are set. But you can also play on pc, with xcloud potentially you can play on any device. Scarlett my have a cheap streaming box. You can also pay their consoles month to month. You have game pass as an alternative to buying games, and has play anywhere across your devices. If you play on their current console you can also access their previous consoles with backwards compatible, etc
They have so many options, and so many ways for you to throw money at them. You can support Microsoft and their business without buying their box, and it's genius. They are making having one static box for your games feel restrictive
It also doesnt mean that it was bad to those who actually liked the game. I've read numerous comments from people who didnt like QB in the beginning, only to go back a few months later to really enjoy it. What does the "vast majority" have to do with those of us who liked it? Who gives a shit about the "vast majority?" There are a "vast majority" of those who enjoyed what QB brought to the table. Does that change your side of "vast majority?" WTF??
There were also those who hated on the game via other gamers who moaned about it (many hadnt even played it yet) only to go back and try it for themselves and really enjoy it. We can do this all day but the fact of the matter is, QB is a story worth re-telling by the opinions of alot of its fans. We also agree that Remedy would be a great pick up for a development house. They're pretty much the equivalent of Naughty Dog when it comes to storytelling and visuals in my book.
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I want a sequel to quantum break, quantum break is one of my favorite games this gen, I liked everything about it, gameplay, story and graphics, sound was pretty good too.
Sorry this is a h/w question but what would you guys think of an X2 with zen2 lite cpu, 8TF gpu and 12 gb ram + increased bandwidth (but faster than 1x) for $399 as the entry model for next-gen? Be able to run all 1X titles at 4k60 with some headroom? MS can release a X2X higher spec model as well for $499.
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