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I meant that MS from that $10 sub if you were to remove MP from Gold would have to pay for the following:
- Xbox division paying Azure division for the use of the server farms
- R+D for Xbox Live
- Paying the licensees who has content in XGP
Secondly when we look at attach rates the main games that sell well are all MP games and no one has an issue of paying for Xbox Live Gold or PSN+ for that matter. The 'pay to play' on consoles won't be removed by MS. Otherwise you would have Gold with non of the motivation for people to subscribe, so the only way would be to increase the cost of XGP to $29.99 to cover everything listed above.
Why do you think that only XGP will be paying for these and that XBLG covers those costs? Xbox makes the majority of it's revenue from 3rd party games being sold on the system and the DLC/MTX from each of those games. The more subscribers you get on XGP, the more opportunity you get from 3rd party games and their DLC/MTX. Why? Because you still sell those games, and make it more enticing to a user to purchase a full game because of the discount. Also because if you eliminate the paywall, a person is most likely going to try out a game that relies on it, and you have more opportunity to sell them more stuff, and it's not only DLC/MTX of that but also selling people on newer games in a franchise. That's the thing that a lot of people ignore. Game Pass from a 3rd party perspective is a way to see what games franchises they can still sell and profit off of in the future. That keeps the user subscribed, that also can sell the user DLC/MTX for that future game.
I'll put it like this, Xbox Live is free on PC. When (not if) MS releases Game Pass on PC (fully, not just XPA games) and if it is successful, it would more than cover the costs of Xbox Live infrastructure. What they need to do is before that happens, get as many people on console to get on that subscription. That's why you lower the barrier of entry. The endgame is streaming and no one is going to pay for multiplayer, so you might as well open the gates and get users on your side. The opportunity for Microsoft is huge. You want to be Netflix, not Amazon Prime Video or YouTube Red. That's why I think that they will go in. It's a huge risk but one with tremendous payoff if it works. You want to give no one any reason for this to not be a no brainer.
The idea is that increase the number of people playing MP games, increases the opportunity to sell more content to more players. This could easily offset the losses you speak of. We already see this money bringing in ridiculous amounts of money on PC.
The profit opportunity comes from higher volumes. And you don't need recent 3rd Party support. MS will drive interest with their first party offerings, then players will jump into the 3rd party games they otherwise would not have been able to play.
I don't think this is true. When they are good, MP and SP games both sell very well. Also, half of the console market isn't paying for online MP services. So many of those top selling MP games are being sold to players who never even touch the multiplayer component. That's a missed opportunity to sell post launch content and could easily offset the costs you speak of.
They announced publicly and released the Sea of Thieves beta very quickly, you will see the same thing happen to Crackdown 3.
I still think MP gets shown off at E3 and the beta starts that weekend, full release in late July or August. (which would also give it the same amount of time between beta and release as SoT. didnt notice till now lol)
Does someone have a link to the Gamepass thread? I lost it.
It had all the available games as well as ones being added next month.
It had all the available games as well as ones being added next month.
some of the stuff the person has brought up is believeable, but i don't think all of it is true
Sounds like a bunch of educated guesses based off things we know and rumors.
Nothing he said was much of a leak. Gears was never coming this year and Halo 6 this year was a bit of a long shot too. Big whoop.
>Perfect Dark is currently a Deus Ex style reboot, but not much
>Fable is a complete reboot of the series with a focus on more linearity and story while still keeping the open world that Fable 1-3 had
>Scalebound isn't dead, we are currently in the process of shopping the project around to various teams to take up the project
> btw, there is 261,904 daily active XBL users
> AOE4 is currently being ported to XB1
>they are working on an Xbox VR project under the code name Scarlet, as of right now Forza Horizon 4 and a Halo demo are being tested to have VR support
>SoD2 is currently shooting for an early April release date
>Crackdown 3 releases May 29th
>Ori 2 releases September 18th
>Gears 5 ain't happening any time this year, The Coalition is currently overloaded with projects and the progress that has been made on GoW5 is extremely early (like 5% early)
>Halo 6 isn't happening this year either, but we are going to be getting a Mass Effect style spinoff that's been in development for 2 years
for the elite controller
>it's coming out later this year (around November)
>yes it will be discounted for those that bought the original one
>yes you will be able to replace your 1.0 with the new one but only if you have been having repeated issues with yours
>yes it works with aftermarket sticks
>no, only the sticks will work on the Elite 2
currently on the AA side
>MDHR is working on a sequel to Cuphead
>a mysterious project codenamed "Hellfire" popped up on a list last week of current projects, apparently it's a Sci-Fi FPS in the style of NOLF and Blade Runner done by a newly formed team
>Ashen and Below have reverted back to being full console exclusives
>a full remake of Banjo Kazooie is in the works at Rare to celebrate the series 20th anniversary
>ReCore is getting a sequel, this time it's running in UE4 instead of Unity
btw, the next round of og Xbox BC titles are going to be
>Morrowind
>Jade Empire
>Crimson Skies
>Project Gotham 1
For those that cant get link (doesnt work for me for some reason on mobile for example so i had to get on laptop)
Edit: I had clumped up his posts which made it confusing, sorry about that folks, I have separated them for easy reading.
>Fable is a complete reboot of the series with a focus on more linearity and story while still keeping the open world that Fable 1-3 had
>Scalebound isn't dead, we are currently in the process of shopping the project around to various teams to take up the project
> btw, there is 261,904 daily active XBL users
> AOE4 is currently being ported to XB1
>they are working on an Xbox VR project under the code name Scarlet, as of right now Forza Horizon 4 and a Halo demo are being tested to have VR support
>SoD2 is currently shooting for an early April release date
>Crackdown 3 releases May 29th
>Ori 2 releases September 18th
>Gears 5 ain't happening any time this year, The Coalition is currently overloaded with projects and the progress that has been made on GoW5 is extremely early (like 5% early)
>Halo 6 isn't happening this year either, but we are going to be getting a Mass Effect style spinoff that's been in development for 2 years
for the elite controller
>it's coming out later this year (around November)
>yes it will be discounted for those that bought the original one
>yes you will be able to replace your 1.0 with the new one but only if you have been having repeated issues with yours
>yes it works with aftermarket sticks
>no, only the sticks will work on the Elite 2
currently on the AA side
>MDHR is working on a sequel to Cuphead
>a mysterious project codenamed "Hellfire" popped up on a list last week of current projects, apparently it's a Sci-Fi FPS in the style of NOLF and Blade Runner done by a newly formed team
>Ashen and Below have reverted back to being full console exclusives
>a full remake of Banjo Kazooie is in the works at Rare to celebrate the series 20th anniversary
>ReCore is getting a sequel, this time it's running in UE4 instead of Unity
btw, the next round of og Xbox BC titles are going to be
>Morrowind
>Jade Empire
>Crimson Skies
>Project Gotham 1
For those that cant get link (doesnt work for me for some reason on mobile for example so i had to get on laptop)
Edit: I had clumped up his posts which made it confusing, sorry about that folks, I have separated them for easy reading.
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"For the elite controller" appears to be part of a new paragraph and unrelated to the Halo bits.
PLEASE LET ALL OF THAT STUFF BE TRUE
Like others have said they seem like educated guesses. Next round of BC titles should be announced soon, if the names are right the leaks get a little less pinch of salt from me.
Crackdown 3 May release if it happens will definelty shine a nice light on this supposed leak until then we wait.
*sees BK remake for this year* please be real
Crackdown 3 May release if it happens will definelty shine a nice light on this supposed leak until then we wait.
*sees BK remake for this year* please be real
I guess this "insider" didn't get the memo that Crimson Skies is already part of the whole BC thing.
yeah I clumped all of his stuff together. when it isnt followed by the > its a new post
I think that was a formatting error because for me it isn't that nonsensical. LoyalPhoenix can you bold the titles to separate the posts?
SOT
SOD2
CD3
Forza 4
Halo: something
Banjo 20Annivesary
Ori 2
All on game pass. That's a hell of a year imo.
fixed the post with the info, again, sorry for making it confusing to read. Should be all good now tho
Phil ain't fucking around when it comes to games (btw don't forget Below, Ashen, The Last Night, Darwin Project and Artful Escape are also slated for 2018)
2018 has been fucking AWESOME for Xbox.
By the way - Celeste just came out, and it is absolutely incredible guys. Everybody that has an Xbox should play it.
It's not an exclusive, but it seems like the type of game that would skip Xbox entirely. And it got released day and date with PS4, Switch, and PC.
This is all provided that these rumours are true. *fingers crossed*
By the way - Celeste just came out, and it is absolutely incredible guys. Everybody that has an Xbox should play it.
It's not an exclusive, but it seems like the type of game that would skip Xbox entirely. And it got released day and date with PS4, Switch, and PC.
This is all provided that these rumours are true. *fingers crossed*
"Coming to your home in 2020 only on Xbox <insert name here>!!!!"
Xbox One X already improves both 360 and og Xbox games by default. it runs it at like x16 the resolution
Most of this would be rad, particularly a Recore sequel, but yeah this is total bollocks.
Credibility was lost in the first statement. Obviously gears isn't coming out this year. Everything else is just random thoughts and wishes that we've posted in this thread already
You are confirming it is all bogus? I'd like to ride this high and not be deflated, darn it.
Speaking of Killer Instinct 2, I've been playing Marlow Briggs via BC, and he would fit in perfectly as a guest character.
I think they mean that they just dont believe it.
You and me and can smoke this joint until officially proven wrong tho lmao. BK20th Anniversary MUST HAVE SOMETHING DAMN IT
Nah some it is probably true, but not because that 4chan poster is an insider, just that theses leaks are based on other leaks, rumors, and things we know.
What did I tell you guys? And you guys all called me crazy. I knew this would be happening after what Klobrille said about the Banjo 20A thing. I knew it!
EDIT: If this is all true, that is.....
That stuff reads like a wishlist to me, specifically perfect dark being like (modern) deus ex, a halo mass effect (does that mean a 3rd person shooter or a RPG?) and banjo being completely remade although I guess that latter isn't totally absurd.
Remember if a list sounds too good to be true it almost always is.
Remember if a list sounds too good to be true it almost always is.
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