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Microsoft Studios (& Partners) Current and Future Landscape

Should we move to a new OT?

  • Yes

    Votes: 86 21.9%
  • No

    Votes: 80 20.4%
  • Wait until a couple weeks before E3

    Votes: 226 57.7%

  • Total voters
    392
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Rychu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Holy shit this thread exploded!

So let me get this straight..
- 343 are not doing Halo 6 (at least for this year). The TV show is also well into production.
- Electric Square are working on a multiplayer centric game for MS, my guess is Phantom Dust. The remaster was a primer for this imo.
- Fable is in the works, most likely Playground Games have taken this job. Very, very exciting!
- The Coalition is working on a new IP with a mo-cap studio. My guess is it may have something to do with the short novel (by Mark Lawrence) Dark Tide. It fits the horror type theme TC seem to excel at. May even be an episodic thing for Game Pass?
- There may be a chance Banjo is in the pipeline. Unlikely (sorry Salty!) but who knows since Spencer got the promotion.
- Perfect Dark is apparently also in production with Coalition collaborating. This may be what the mo-cap website thing relates to?

Did I miss anything?
The Banjo project is Banjo_20A, Banjo Kazooie came out June 1998 so presumably, this project is an HD remaster for the 20th anniversary of Banjo which is still Banjo but not a sequel.
 

Hindle

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Oct 29, 2017
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Really? I still don't think it was true and was just a miscommunication in regards to work they are actually doing with The Coalition.

This has been a crazy few days, there's been so much information swirling about that its hard to keep a track of it all. I just don't see TC doing a new IP and Gears 5.
Well.

Gears 5 is in full production. Release late 2019 maybe Sept 2020 if it gets extra polish.

At the same time, they start staffing up now for something new. The team is efficient, and Phil Spencer now no longer having to answer to higher ups, greenlights this new project.
 

Panic Freak

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Oct 26, 2017
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He never said anything about a Rare collection and of course everyone assumed it would be a new game. My point is don't pretend we are "starting" to see any promises get fulfilled. We aren't seeing jack until we actually see it. Phil Spencer's promises with regards to their first-party focus go way back, like 5 years or more, and most of them are still unfulfilled. He has actually done the opposite of what he promised since, because scarcity is at an all time low for the brand. And sorry not sorry for not buying into his "we wanna be careful not to announce early" excuse. The competition announces early all the time and consistently deliver, so when you say you're scared of announcing early all you're really doing is attesting to your own incompetence and lack of commitment to get projects done. Get your shit together, stop interfering in the creative process, stop funding games under obscure studios with no track record, stop putting the same game under 4 different teams, and maybe then you don't have to be worried about "too early". Cuphead was announced "too early" and it ended up being one of the best selling and reviewed Xbox exclusives in recent memory. Only someone who constantly lacks the confidence in what they have greenlit like Phil Spencer care about "too early". The "press" and especially gamers don't give two shits.
Peak Salty Hippo. "Stop funding games under obsure studios with no track record" and then praises a game that was developed by an obscure studio with no track record.
 

Linkified

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Dec 24, 2017
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Well.

Gears 5 is in full production. Release late 2019 maybe Sept 2020 if it gets extra polish.

At the same time, they start staffing up now for something new. The team is efficient, and Phil Spencer now no longer having to answer to higher ups, greenlights this new project.
Yes he does the CEO and CFO
 

jbug617

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Oct 25, 2017
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Bits N Pieces

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Well.

Gears 5 is in full production. Release late 2019 maybe Sept 2020 if it gets extra polish.

At the same time, they start staffing up now for something new. The team is efficient, and Phil Spencer now no longer having to answer to higher ups, greenlights this new project.
The job postings on their site doesn't represent a studio ramping up production for a second game, its just Gears roles. That's not to say they don't offer help and support to other studios making Xbox games but I just do t see them having a new IP coming any time soon. There's enough good rumours floating about just now that we don't need to start going overboard on what was probably a mistake :)
 

Hindle

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Oct 29, 2017
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The job postings on their site doesn't represent a studio ramping up production for a second game, its just Gears roles. That's not to say they don't offer help and support to other studios making Xbox games but I just do t see them having a new IP coming any time soon. There's enough good rumours floating about just now that we don't need to start going overboard on what was probably a mistake :)
It wouldn't be anytime soon. You'r talking 4-5 years if it's happening.

And it's a pretty strange specific mistake to make saying new and IP from TC.

It's worded very clear.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Maybe a stretch but the mocap thing might be related to Perfect Dark if Coalition is indeed involved. Technically The Coalition is to Gears what 343 is to Halo so in a way... it's a new licence for them. But I don't see that Perfect Dark thing happening. Time will tell.
 

Synth

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think they are going to be doing VR.
God I hope. I was really counting on the XB1X launching to bring VR with it for FM7, before they just stopped talking about it.

When they do get round to it though, it had better not be as throwaway and useless as a lot of PSVR implementations are (looking at you Gran Turismo Sport).
 

Humam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wouldn't a game based on a book not be a new IP, it would be considered as licensed right ?
 

Poodlestrike

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Ushay

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Oct 27, 2017
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No excitement for Crackdown 3 four player co-op? I'm super pumped for this one!
Personally I'm really pumped for C3, purely because I enjoyed the hell out of the original game (not so much 2). Despite the weak showing at E3, I still think this one could be special if MS give it the right attention.
I didn't play a lot of Phantom Dust but is that even remotely similar to the Souls games?


Wasn't it last year or the year before it that Spencer tweeted he liked Mech Assault a lot and basically said they could return to it someday?
Nothing like Souls actually. To be honest there isn't anything like it even to this date.
It was a card based multiplayer arena game. Essentially you played a 'Mage/Caster' of various disciplines, it plays like a 3rd person shooter, only each button was mapped to distinctive spell. Think Dragon Age Inquisition skill/spell mapping only in an arena setting with very unique spells. You could destroy supporting pillars and bring bridges down, cast defensive barriers that worked well against specific spell types. There was a massive amount of depth to it.

If done right, Phantom could (and should! )be a hit.
The Banjo project is Banjo_20A, Banjo Kazooie came out June 1998 so presumably, this project is an HD remaster for the 20th anniversary of Banjo which is still Banjo but not a sequel.
Man, even if they simply remade the original Banjo with updated assets/levels.. that would be amazing. Especially as a primer to test the demand for a new game. I really hope MS looks to the success of Mario and how it could translate to Banjo.
 

Trup1aya

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Oct 25, 2017
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Coincidently, I’ve been playing through Banjo Kazooie this week. It’s a nice blast from the past, but a simple remaster would be a waste of time.

It really hasn’t aged well. The platforming is non-existent, and the puzzles are so juvenile that the game would have limited appeal compared to something like a modern mario.

But looking at the BanjoX clips, I think a remake would be really cool. Like if they reused the B-K premise, but reimagined the world’s, improved the mechanics, and added content (Worlds, enemies, abilities, etc). I’d be all over that.
 

daTRUballin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Phil Spencer has never said anything that wasn't backed up. It's just people expect games and studios to grow on trees.

It takes time. The last few years he has had to sort out hardware as well.
Sure, I can accept the fact that Spencer probably had to deal with all the issues caused by the previous leadership these last few years, so I’ll be more lenient on him for this gen.

But if things don’t improve at all next gen, I think we can call Spencer’s leadership a bust.
 

Hindle

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Oct 29, 2017
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Sure, I can accept the fact that Spencer probably had to deal with all the issues caused by the previous leadership these last few years, so I’ll be more lenient on him for this gen.

But if things don’t improve at all next gen, I think we can call Spencer’s leadership a bust.
That I agree with.

The next 5 years are for me his time to show what he can do.
 

EdgeXL

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Oct 27, 2017
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He could start by actually creating a studio instead of closing them.
I am pretty sure Phil Spencer didn't wake up that day and decide to shutter Lionhead and Press Play. Obviously I can't prove it but I am guessing that Phil was told by his boss at the time to cut back on expenses.

It doesn't make much sense to want to close those studios and then talk about opening new ones and acquiring others AFTER he gets promoted to Microsoft's inner circle of executives.
 

Bits N Pieces

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Oct 27, 2017
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I’m not well-versed on this, but which studios were closed while he was in charge of Xbox?
Lionhead, Press Play, Big Park, Team Dakota, let go of Twisted Pixel. Then there were those four small teams that never did anything - LXP, Big Science and I can't remember the other two. That's not all bad though, sometimes you need to make tough decisions though now that he's talked about acquisitions, he needs to to it. That simple.
 

daTRUballin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lionhead, Press Play, Big Park, Team Dakota, let go of Twisted Pixel. Then there were those four small teams that never did anything - LXP, Big Science and I can't remember the other two. That's not all bad though, sometimes you need to make tough decisions though now that he's talked about acquisitions, he needs to to it. That simple.
Wait, Big Park has been closed too??? When?
 
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