Microsoft Teams is complete crap compared to Slack

[Z-oo31]

My company recently switched from Slack to Teams (due to Teams being included as part of our Office 365 subscription), and so far it's universally seen as a major downgrade by myself and everyone on the team. In particular, there's a huge amount of wasted space, which then triggers a lot more scrolling.

There's just so much ground that Microsoft needs to make up.

IE11 : Chrome :: Teams : Slack

Just terrible.

 

[vypek]

My company and the switch about a week or so ago too. It's terrible. I can't believe how much it is missing compared to the last product we were using. It doesn't even sync properly with our calendars and the status of users is wrong far too often

 

[CommodoreKong]

Yeah the whole wasted space/designed for mobile design aesthetic that's common in Windows 10 and programs designed for Windows 10 is just awful.

 

[cakely]

There's Slack (or "Crack" as the head of my division referred to it in the recent quarterly meeting) and everything else.

Slack is the gold standard that other products need to rise to. It may be a long while before that happens.

 

[Porygon]

Look like Microsoft is sucking big time in communication tools....

Oh the Windows 10 version of Skype is freaking awful too

 

[Geode]

Teams is a work in progress. It'll eventually catch-up.

 

[entremet]

Yep. Slack is King.

 

[Berordn]

I really wish they'd just give me the option to turn off threaded replies. Or just give me Slack's chat layout. Just make that stupid reply button go away in channels.

It's not a bad app, layout issues aside. We use Sharepoint and Exchange Online so the integration is pretty nice, it's just ugly as sin and is stupidly cumbersome for its primary use as a basic productivity chatroom app.

 

[Deleted member 22354]

If slack had a block/mute user fonction it would be perfect

 

[American Eskimo]

Its amazing how crap Outlook for Office 365 is

 

[Lump]

Slack is wonderful. I find the Trello integration to be wonderful too. The pro version is expensive but they are the best in the business and they can get away with it.

 

[One Eyed Willy]

It's Microsoft, given time it will simply over take the competition. Teams needs another 2-3 years and it'll surpass Slack and more and more companies are going to consolidate down to Teams due to licensing costs alone. Slack is a great product however, but Microsoft + time is a winning combo.

For instance, my team is now using Teams and while it's clunky it gets the job done and its included in our O365 licensing. We have development teams who've been using Slack for years and they were told they have 3 months to migrate off to Teams. This all happened when we migrated all fileshares (user and office) to O365. Once that was done, boom finance team swooped in and basically told a lot of departments the jig was up. Slack was no longer going to be paid for when Teams was included.

Teams still need a lot of development in my opinion, but MS will get there. They always get there.

 

[Deleted member 4552]

Well, Teams is much newer than those.

I was going to integrate Teams in to my team's workflow but I'm leaving in 2 months so fuck it.

 

[FrakEarth]

I'm trying to get our team in to using Mattermost (slack-like) along with Taiga. Money is an issue for us, so the freer / open source the better.

I'm hoping to integrate both with work lists in SharePoint.

 

[CrankyJay]

Slack is great

Been meaning to write some integrations with their API so we can have our build and deployment servers message the team in Slack.

Has anyone done anything like this yet? Visual Studio TFS online —> Slack

 

[One Eyed Willy]

Oh also, Microsoft announced that Skype for Business (Lync) is moving entirely into Teams. They are going to completely deprecate S4B and merge it all into the Teams API. This also falls in line with Microsofts announced development cycle, which is they are developing all applications for Cloud first, then back-porting "some" applications to on-prem installs. So the Teams development cycle has ramped up a lot this year and I expect we'll see some more announcements at Build in a week.

Slack is great

Been meaning to write some integrations with their API so we can have our build and deployment servers message the team in Slack.

Has anyone done anything like this yet? Visual Studio TFS online —> Slack

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I'm not sure about Slack, but I'm almost certain this is coming to Teams. I read about a lot of VS -> Teams integration.

 

[nStruct]

I'm with you OP, we recently had to switch from Slack to Teams and it hasn't been a fun time. I really hope MS invests time into making Teams more usable.

 

[PanickyFool]

I recently made the decision to drop slack.

The problem was it was too good at facilitating communication in the moment. Information that should have been captured in Jira was living in slack.

 

[CrankyJay]

I'm not sure about Slack, but I'm almost certain this is coming to Teams. I read about a lot of VS -> Teams integration.

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Here it is: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vsts/service-hooks/services/slack?view=vsts

Just remoted into the office and did this in less than 5 minutes. Pretty awesome.

 

[CrankyJay]

I recently made the decision to drop slack.

The problem was it was too good at facilitating communication in the moment. Information that should have been captured in Jira was living in slack.

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We use both JIRA and slack and we had the same issue. We just told our team to limit channel talk in that regard. There's a cool plugin for slack where you can give the [project]-[bug/story #] and it will pop up the JIRA url for quick and easy reference.

 

[Stormed]

Microsoft has a strong tendancy to rush products and then support it as time goes on. Since it's included with 365, I'm sure they're going to shoehorn it hard until people finally accept it.

 

[DrWangerBanger]

Just be thankful your company doesn't use Skype for Business, what a complete piece of shit. I'll be glad when it moves over to being Teams

 

[Deleted member 4247]

Slack is great

Been meaning to write some integrations with their API so we can have our build and deployment servers message the team in Slack.

Has anyone done anything like this yet? Visual Studio TFS online —> Slack

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Not VS specifically, but other stuff. It's really easy to set up some webhooks.

 

[shnurgleton]

I like slack a lot

Lots of the old programmer curmudgeons at my workplace are mad we don't use irc tho

 

[Skux]

Slack is great, the versatility is just amazing.

Once I set up a channel for Spotify requests on the office speakers. Damn good.

 

[Fliesen]

Teams is okay.

Not a power user, but it can be super weird at times - like, it's in-app PDF rendering seems to be non-standard / buggy. (as in, the pdf, once you download it, renders layers properly, while the preview within ignores certain layers / shadows.)
Also, there's huge amounts of wasted space, meanwhile longer filenames get shortened to all hell...

like wtf is this shit

Also, it's really inconsistent with regards to where you'd find right-click menus.
Also, i'd like read receipts on the messages i post, thank you.

We didn't use slack before, so teams is definitely an upgrade versus using email and shared folders...

 

[Poutine]

Slack is great , way better than Teams, but if your company is trying to save money it's probably a good move. Teams costs them 0$ while Slack is charging 300$+ dollars per user per year (1 user = 1 full member or multi-channel guest, even if you delete a member after a month it counts for the full year) for the entreprise grid solution.

And as some other persons mentioned, Teams isn't mature yet but could become quite good eventually.

 

[THEVOID]

The only reason MS created Teams is because Slack wouldn't sell. They'll get up to speed on teams. Eventually.

 

[Luchashaq]

Honestly everything MS puts out software wise is trash at the moment IMO. The only thing my business uses ms wise is fucking Windows.

Teams is awful, outlook is a trainwreck, office 365 makes me feel like I'm using a Dell from 1995, Skype is shit compared to Zoom, it's awful top to bottom.

 

[THEVOID]

Honestly everything MS puts out software wise is trash at the moment IMO. The only thing my business uses ms wise is fucking Windows.

Teams is awful, outlook is a trainwreck, office 365 makes me feel like I'm using a Dell from 1995, Skype is shit compared to Zoom, it's awful top to bottom.

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What do you use besides office365. I happen to love it.

 

[steejee]

Teams is fine for what it is, but I don't use it for chatting, just notifications.

From what I've used of Slack I have zero interest in using it at work, and my concerns seem to be borne out by people who have used it extensively (namely adding more noise to my daily routine when I want less)

 

[Izayoi]

Moving from Lync, Teams is an absolute godsend.

 

[Pankratous]

Huh. Weird. My company changed last week too. I wonder if werew the same company.

 

[CrankyJay]

Slack is great, the versatility is just amazing.

Once I set up a channel for Spotify requests on the office speakers. Damn good.

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That's cool. We like to stop what we're doing occasionally and watch Police chases so I set up a channel that is subscribed to a Twitter feed that posts them automatically for us.

 

[AncientReptileBrain]

Be fucking grateful you aren't using hipchat.

 

[Luchashaq]

What do you use besides office365. I happen to love it.

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Simply the google stuff, gmail/docs/sheets/slides + slack + zoom + asana.

They aren't perfect but the web based MS products are sooooo laggy on both my overpowered gaming PC, my decent laptop, my project manager's computer, and my wife's MBP.

We are a fairly small company (about 16 people) so there might be some more fancy stuff you can do with office 365, but the speed is such a deal breaker.

 

[Regiruler]

I thought Yammer was the (shit) equivalent.

 

[Kimura]

Windows Phone was a super cool concept so I wonder if they UI team lost it or what the hell happened. Microsoft messing up on UI- Embarrassing.

 

[neoak]

Windows Phone was a super cool concept so I wonder if they UI team lost it or what the hell happened. Microsoft messing up on UI- Embarrassing.

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You do know they are different teams in different divisions with different focus, right?

 

[Sulik2]

Yeah the whole wasted space/designed for mobile design aesthetic that's common in Windows 10 and programs designed for Windows 10 is just awful.

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THIS. SO MUCH THIS. The trend of UI making inefficient use space just so its easier to use on a phone when you are using programs on a desktop machine drives me INSANE. UI should keep getting better as we learn more, not regress and quite frankly the modern UI design trend in windows is awful.

 

[UnderNewOwnership]

Look like Microsoft is sucking big time in communication tools....

Oh the Windows 10 version of Skype is freaking awful too

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Yup. Tried using it, ran like garbage, with undisplayed messages, attachments which never arrived, lag, the works.
Went back to classic Skype and never looked back.
Also, Skype for Business is unmitigated shit.

 

[GSG]

Just be thankful your company doesn't use Skype for Business, what a complete piece of shit. I'll be glad when it moves over to being Teams

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Yup, SFB is absolute trash. It's such a buggy piece of shit.

My wife's company uses Slack and the difference between the two is honestly night and day.

 

[Deleted member 3058]

Agreed.

My team went from Lync --> Skype for Business --> Slack and all of us couldn't be happier.

I've tested out Teams and it's really horrible with it's use of screen real estate.

I imagine we'll have to switch over to it eventually since my department recently got subscriptions to Office 365 for all employees.

 

[spam musubi]

Yup. Tried using it, ran like garbage, with undisplayed messages, attachments which never arrived, lag, the works.
Went back to classic Skype and never looked back.
Also, Skype for Business is unmitigated shit.

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Classic Skype has security flaws that they have announced they won't fix, though. Effectively forcing you to switch to that garbage that is win10 Skype.

Haven't used teams but lync and Skype for business are terrible, my previous job had those and we had a slack, and no one ever used SFB.

 

[neon_dream]

Yeah the whole wasted space/designed for mobile design aesthetic that's common in Windows 10 and programs designed for Windows 10 is just awful.

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Thank you. I've been complaining about this since Windows 10 released.

The entire UI is horribly sized/spaced. HUGE ICONS and HUGE TEXT and massive swathes of vast empty space. Not only is the Windows 10 UI irritating to look at, it's inefficient and hard to work with.

 

[YuriLowell]

I am curious what you guys hate about Outlook.
I think its a perfectly fine email client.

 

[captive]

Honestly everything MS puts out software wise is trash at the moment IMO. The only thing my business uses ms wise is fucking Windows.

Teams is awful, outlook is a trainwreck, office 365 makes me feel like I'm using a Dell from 1995, Skype is shit compared to Zoom, it's awful top to bottom.

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this post is so much fail.
If you think outlook is a trainwreck you need to check out IBM notes, yes people still use IBM notes. Outlook is pretty great. Office 365 is great. My wife's company uses zoom, doesnt seem any different than skype for business.

Slack is great , way better than Teams, but if your company is trying to save money it's probably a good move. Teams costs them 0$ while Slack is charging 300$+ dollars per user per year (1 user = 1 full member or multi-channel guest, even if you delete a member after a month it counts for the full year) for the entreprise grid solution.

And as some other persons mentioned, Teams isn't mature yet but could become quite good eventually.

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holy shit, slack wants 300 bucks per user? That's insane.

 

[cakely]

I like slack a lot

Lots of the old programmer curmudgeons at my workplace are mad we don't use irc tho

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Hah. That described me for a long while. I've embraced slack for the team now, but I'm also looking at an irssi window in a tmux pane as we speak.

 

[Deleted member 33057]

Lol, I'm literally stuck right now waiting to get into a Microsoft Teams meeting when I saw this thread.

Agreed.

 

[Astronut325]

It can't be worse than the Cisco equivalent.