Microsoft testing Gaming Rentals over the store?

Oct 25, 2017
6,006
Utah, USA
#5
Makes a lot of sense. Xbox One all generation has been about offering choices.

With this we have the choice of:
- Buying a game
- Gifting a game
- Downloading a game via Game Pass
- Game rentals
 
Oct 28, 2017
271
Germany
#13
I think this is a great idea. With the shift towards digital this gen and, I imagine, even more so next gen, ownership of games isn't going to be so important. It's going to be all about spending little and often rather than putting down your £50/$60 on a game. We as consumers have already been trained to do that for years with microtransaction and dlc, the next step that would make sense is for full releases. Sure, service games are doing that to a degree, but I think digital renting and subscriptions will be massive when the next consoles roll around.
 
Oct 27, 2017
36
#14
Makes perfect sense. Most of the time I pass on $60 games because I worry I'll get tired of it quick and have wasted money. I assume after the 3 months you'd have to pay full price to purchase but 3 months is a good amount of time regardless.
 
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Lukas Taves
Oct 28, 2017
3,655
Brazil
#16
Gamepass is cheaper. Why rent a game when you can play it via Gamepass.
For games available on game pass sure, but imagine this as an option for all games?

You can buy at full price, or get a 66% discount to rent it for 3 months.

I think I would actually prefer it for non mp games that I would never play again after finishing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,643
#18
The image is from a friend, so I assume it's legit:



It says: 69 Reais (21 dollars) each 3 months.

What do you guys think about it?
As its one game does seem more of a way to split payment over 3 months than rent a game (as otherwise would compete with gamepass).
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,758
Pacifica, CA
#19
Cool idea for mp games, but I can't see how sp games would benefit from that?
The benefit to Microsoft (and the publisher) is that the cost for entry is lower, and this could actually help to prevent people from purchasing used copies. I've been saying for a long time that a rental system like this makes more sense for people who trade in games, anyway. I've never understood the obsession among people on tight budgets regarding being able to sell a game back when a cheaper rental system would actually go a longer way in saving them money. If you're not keeping the game forever, then why not just pay less for the game in the form of a rental?
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,224
#21
For games available on game pass sure, but imagine this as an option for all games?

You can buy at full price, or get a 66% discount to rent it for 3 months.

I think I would actually prefer it for non mp games that I would never play again after finishing.
Wouldn't that stop single player games from being viable?
 
Mar 10, 2018
431
#22
what if said game isn't on game pass? Not obviously talking about Forza, but in general.
For games available on game pass sure, but imagine this as an option for all games?

You can buy at full price, or get a 66% discount to rent it for 3 months.

I think I would actually prefer it for non mp games that I would never play again after finishing.
Yes, i referred about games which also are on Gamepass. But of course, not every game will be on Gamepass.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
8,063
Ibis Island
#24
Good to have options. Can't say i'd exactly cave for $20 bucks for 3 months though. At $20 i'd just wait for the game itself to hit close to that price.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,006
Utah, USA
#25
Just keep doing what you're doing Microsoft, this would be a really cool feature :)
Yeah, say what you will about Microsoft’s first party lineup compared to the competition but:

When it comes to choice, options, services and software updates: Xbox One is absolutely killing it.

With universal mod support coming within the next year or two as well as game streaming coming within the next 3 years, Xbox will continue to be a leader on that front.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,700
#27
Not a bad option, though Game Pass probably ends up being a better deal. Still, imagine being able to rent a game for like 2 bucks, in case of single player games you can beat in that timeframe it's a good way to save money. And if you end up liking it anyway and want to play through it again in the immediate future, you've only lost 2 bucks, or even less if you find a discount for the full game later.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,148
Ireland
#28
I never understood why Sony or MS didn't do this ages ago. Offer the game at a lower price as a rental for a small period. Maybe they think it would take away from actual sales? It's a strange one.
 
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Lukas Taves
Oct 28, 2017
3,655
Brazil
#30
Wouldn't that stop single player games from being viable?
I think it's the opposite.

Instead of having a smaller pool of players willing to buy the game at $60, and other players buying used games or waiting until it drops to $20-30 at retail, you offer at a discount right away, but since it's digitally the margins are better and it's 1 less used copy on the market. And since the price is lower, someone who would buy an used copy might just rent.

But, how people would actually react I have no idea :P
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,006
Utah, USA
#31
Not a bad option, though Game Pass probably ends up being a better deal. Still, imagine being able to rent a game for like 2 bucks, in case of single player games you can beat in that timeframe it's a good way to save money. And if you end up liking it anyway and want to play through it again in the immediate future, you've only lost 2 bucks, or even less if you find a discount for the full game later.
I’m not sure it will be $1.99, I’m going to say the minimum rental will be 15 days and it will cost a price range between $5.99-$7.99 or something like that (I personally think $6.99)
 
Jan 5, 2018
207
#32
I rent games from red box all the time. Games that I know I will only play for like a day or two, or maybe 2-3 hours and never play again. I be wanting to play those games, but I don't want to pay $60 for a game I KNOW I won't play over a long period of time. But at the same time, it bothers me knowing that I'm paying to play a game that the developers arent getting a single penny from. It's why I sometimes wait for games to go on sale instead of renting.

I'd MUCH rather rent from a platform knowing those who made the game are getting some of the cash I paid to rent that title.
 
Mar 4, 2018
1,464
#33
For games available on game pass sure, but imagine this as an option for all games?

You can buy at full price, or get a 66% discount to rent it for 3 months.

I think I would actually prefer it for non mp games that I would never play again after finishing.
I’d actually prefer it for online only games. After 3 months you’ll probably be tired of it(unless there are significant updates) and online only games tend to end up useless when the player base dies or servers go down.
 
#35
For games available on game pass sure, but imagine this as an option for all games?

You can buy at full price, or get a 66% discount to rent it for 3 months.

I think I would actually prefer it for non mp games that I would never play again after finishing.
This is the reason I'm surprised that any publisher would consider offering rentals.

If they did this and Sony did it too I could see it all but killing the market for AAA single player games.
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,224
#37
I think it's the opposite.

Instead of having a smaller pool of players willing to buy the game at $60, and other players buying used games or waiting until it drops to $20-30 at retail, you offer at a discount right away, but since it's digitally the margins are better and it's 1 less used copy on the market. And since the price is lower, someone who would buy an used copy might just rent.

But, how people would actually react I have no idea :P
Fair enough, Microsoft will be able to see how gamepass effect sales. Microsoft is going hard after the used game market.
 
Jan 5, 2018
207
#38
Wouldn't that stop single player games from being viable?
Actually, theoretically, I think quite the opposite could happen. It can encourage people who would of never bought the game in the first place, a chance to play the game, and the gaming company still make a bit of buck from it. I personally rented a lot of PS4 games I know for a fact that I'd never buy because I know that I wouldnt play it for than a few hours, for example, tomb raider, call of duty, destiny 2. So that $60 price point is a turn off. But if I can pay $3 a day to rent it, then, thats the option I would go with, which I already do. But the renting companies here in the US dont split that money with the developer at all as far as I know. So thats money they arent getting, but going into someone elses pocket. And that displeases me somewhat.

But if a slice of that rental money is going towards the dev, then they can make money off whim purchases from people who aren't even their core, nor targetted demographic.
 
Jan 5, 2018
207
#41
This is the reason I'm surprised that any publisher would consider offering rentals.

If they did this and Sony did it too I could see it all but killing the market for AAA single player games.
Hmmmm, im quite interested in hearing more insight on this perspective. Care to share more details, thoughts and opinions???
 
Oct 29, 2017
8,469
Essex, UK
#43
I rent games physically and it's brilliant except for the wait times sending games back and waiting for the next one. Digital would of course obliterate that. If you could rent games for mere days at a time I would be all over this. Game Pass already feels like a soft test for it in a way.

At the moment I rent 2-4 games a month for about £15 a month. If this can be around £5 per game I would be very interested.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,679
#47
that's expensive as fuck, that's what i think
but i like the idea of renting games for a few months without paying full price. if they catch on to stuff outside gamepass, that is
I don't think 20 every 3 months is expensive. How many people continue playing a game after 9 months? Not many. There's very few games that have players like that, and those are the type of games you wouldn't rent anyways regardless of price pretty much.

They will probably offer a monthly rental aswell for like $10. I wouldn't mind paying 10 bucks to play the newest watch dogs or something.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,679
#50
No I mean after 3 months of 21 dollars it’s now yours to keep.
So.. you expect to pay 21 dollars to own a game?

It's 21 dollars for 3 months, not 1 month.
Edit: I see above. Makes sense if you spend $60 on rentals you get to keep it. No arguments there, that could already be part of the plans though. This screenshot doesn't say much at all.