Profit margins for consoles are generally tiny and often negative. Console manufacturers are happy enough to make money from them when they can but the entire purpose of selling the box is to sell games, collect royalties on other company's games on the platform, and nowadays also to sell services and subscriptions and provide a storefront.
Yep, this will definitely not entirely happen next gen at all. The gen afterwards will be more interesting in this regard as i could easily see the console manufacturer going full digital with streaming only.
The person who wrote the article is reaching a bit.
"Every device" could just mean every device category like PC, console (Xbox), phone, TV, tablet, Tesla car etc.
However if it did end up on playstation my first thought is that there's no need for Xbox consoles, but streaming is not the best quality so a certain group of gamers would still want a Xbox console.
EA Access is great if you like sports games and don’t mind waiting a bit. Origin Access on PC is quite a bit better as it has a lot more 3rd party games. Plus since Madden is now on PC it will become even better.
For GamePass, wording makes me think they are going to do streaming as part of it for mobile.
I think this is the angle Pachter talks about often on Pachter Factor: TVs will one day be powerful enough to do streaming video games, so all you would need is an Xbox controller (with a dongle for your TV, perhaps) and the Game Pass subscription and you are playing video games. For that large, untapped market that doesn't want to spend $200+ upfront to play video games, a $50 controller and subscription sounds just right. It won't be the best gaming experience (that would be why you get a console or streaming box), but it'll be good enough for people to buy in.
I doubt it's a "Xbox consoles for sales but get Game Pass on Playstation too" route. But hell, if there was ever a chance to play Xbox and Playstation games on one console, I'm down for that future. Especially if I can use the Xbox controller.
Would be great to have all content everywhere, but I don't see possible any xbox pass on N or S consoles...
But a xbox pass for phone+pc+tv, maybe in a form of "streaming service" like psnow to avoid the user the need to have powerful devices to play the games.
I can imagine Microsoft wanting to release Game Pass on Playstation/Nintendo devices, but I can't imagine either of them, especially Sony, allowing it. Too many complications from mixed online services, in-app purchases and who gets what cut from where, it would be a nightmare to figure out.
But I do believe that one day all games will eventually be on one streaming "netflix for games" platform and console wars will be a thing of the past. Probably not within 10 years though.
I think this is the angle Pachter talks about often on Pachter Factor: TVs will one day be powerful enough to do streaming video games, so all you would need is an Xbox controller (with a dongle for your TV, perhaps) and the Game Pass subscription and you are playing video games.
We've passed that point already. Sony and Samsung TVs had the PlayStation Now app built in for a while until Sony discontinued it.
The problem is that most people who care about playing games on their TV already have one or more boxes dedicated to doing exactly that (and those boxes offer gaming performance that is flatly superior to streaming). People who don't care about playing games on their TV aren't part of the potential market for this, so this kind of service on TVs is limited to people who want to play games, don't have a console already, aren't planning on buying one, but are okay with buying a controller.
There's big potential there to be tapped by someone, eventually, but the market needs a kick to get it moving and so far nobody has been able to provide that kick. I expect that the first big movement towards making TVs into mainstream games devices won't come from consoles, it'll come from smartphones.
I don't think they are talking about Gamepass on Switch or Playstation. I think they mean Xbox, PC, Android and iOS (their cloud platforms). If you remember during E3 Phil said "Not only that we are dedicated to perfecting your gaming experience on your Xbox, PC, and your Phone." If you are expecting Halo PlayStation or Switch that isn't gonna happen. As for "every device" I think it was a slip up.
EDIT: In other words they are talking about all of their platforms Xbox, Windows, and Azure Cloud
I look forward to the day when I can have a mini pc device where i can stream both Gamepass, My Steam Library, PS Now & hopefully Nintendo streaming service along with emulators of past systems and arcades I will be a happy and consolidate them in one space even if all combined subscriptions ran me 50-60 a month I wouldn’t care because I buy a game or two a month anyway.
What's this 'we' shit? What works and what sells is what 'we' apparently want so maybe just speak for yourself.
Microsoft sees the value in the services and software, not the hardware, and hey are not alone. Sony and Nintendo on the other hand see gaming as their main revenue so of course they will be more guarded.
Why not? You speak way, way too broadly. The fire and brimstone act is great on Sundays but otherwise rings silent.
I want this, because I think this is the path forward as we "slowly" convert to digital. I love streaming. I love Prime, Netflix, and Hulu. I love Spotify and iTunes (sort of). I have absolutely no problem spending 3 seconds switching apps; in fact, it's likely the same amount of time used swapping discs--maybe less!
I for one welcome a future where I play on my Xbox at home in native 4K, on the comfy couch and with the great controller, and when I'm elsewhere I either play the same game natively with inferior graphics on a handheld or something, or even in streaming on a mobile or a tablet if the kind of game I'm playing is ideal with that tech.
Like I personally wouldn’t be surprised seeing a Xbox Game App on Switch if the relationship between the two stay good and MS is giving Nintendo a cut of profits. Even if it’s only for the 1st party titles only from MS.
The idea that MS would bring Gamepass and all their exclusives day and date to PlayStation and Nintendo Consoles is ridiculous. Yes, MS wants you to subscribe to Gamepass, but I highly doubt they would want to support their competitors platforms with their latest games. Sony and Nintendo likely wouldn't want it either. They want you buying games in their ecosystems, and using their subscriptions. It makes no sense for any parties involved unless MS intends to exit the Console race. Nothing really suggests that will happen anytime soon.
This seems to be a massive stretch. As far as I can tell, Spencer was simply referring to bringing Game pass to Mobile, PC, etc. via streaming, not PS4 and Switch.
Tbh the only way I see Game Pass happening on the Switch or Playstation 4 is if they'd give their own in exchange as in PS Now on Xbox One or "Nintendo game service" on Xbox One. Unfortunately the later doesn't exist yet, lol.
No, for Sony, because there is no way they would want any earnings diverting to a direct competitor which would then allow said competitor get leverage in dealing with the actual products they sell.
How, for Nintendo. PS4 & Xbox are fairly interchangable in terms of hardware standards and software. Nintendo usually stands alone in its own little world, which Microsoft would have to somehow adapt to cater for. And then also back to No.
I was thinking about this a while ago and it seems like Phil Spencer is totally pivoting the Xbox brand. It is not just about manufacturing and selling consoles with great exclusive IP's anymore. It seems more like Xbox will be some sort of umbrella brand where you know you can go to for gaming anything. And the wonderful thing? If it is up to Microsoft, the platform does not matter. As long as you have a Xbox Game Pass subscription, you can enjoy those games on any device. And I really think the power lies therein. I do not own a Xbox One, nor am I planning to buy the next Xbox console. But if Game Pass was available on Nintendo Switch I would totally buy it. Tons of great games I've never had the opportunity to play on my favorite console of the moment through the cloud. It seems highly unlikely this is going to happen, since I do not expect other console manufacturers to allow for this kind of service on their platforms.
But I really like where this is going and I really think it will give the Xbox brand and IP's more exposure.