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Mike Ybarra, Corporate VP of Xbox, says critics of an Anthem area are “whining” and it is “embarrassing to review with such a lack of knowledge”
- Thread starter Proven
- Start date
Mike Ybarra has a history of being a bit of a twat on Twitter I've noticed. Now that Aaron Greenberg has seemingly stepped down as Xbox's Official Representative of Douchey Tweets this gen, I guess someone had to pick up the slack.
This is par for the course for Xbox marketing lol. No other paltform holder supports crazy console warriors like Crapgamer and the likes. They've always take advantage of
Except it's absolutely nothing like that.That's reminds me the Cuphead situation...
Streamers:
-Often paid by publishers
-No editorial oversight
Reviewers:
-not paid by publishers
-usually editorial oversight
Pretty simple, Mike.
-Often paid by publishers
-No editorial oversight
Reviewers:
-not paid by publishers
-usually editorial oversight
Pretty simple, Mike.
It's not the fact he prefers streams to traditional reviews that's the problem. It's the fact he's an executive of a company that regularly does sponsored spots for their games is encouraging people to ignore traditional reviews in favor of streaming, many of which are sponsored by his company.
I somewhat agree. It's better to actually see the game for yourself through a stream and make an opinion for yourself, than just reading about a game and trusting a critic. I've never been into written reviews myself, so I can understand his point on that matters.
Anthem looks actually awful though, so that wasn't the best game to prove his point =D
The problem is, if you watch a stream, you watch the game actually being played, regardless if the streamer is a shill himself. You're making an opinion for yourself and the streamer in himself doesn't matter that much when forging that opinion. What you see is what you'll get.
I'd have advised people to see a no commentary walkthrough on youtube, which are way better than stream on Twitch since you see the game without an annoying persona speaking and faking reactions, but I kind of see his point.
Is this what you think every stream is? Just watch one without a mic or webcam. Yall are really trying way too hard and for what reason I do not know. Also, you can just play the game yourself which is one of the other things he mentioned in the tweet.
I streamed the game wheres my money?
I don't know. I can't remember the last time I read a review, I always watch streams.
I don't know. I can't remember the last time I read a review, I always watch streams.
Folks take these reviews too seriously.
They also have BFV, Metro Exodus and TD2.
They also have BFV, Metro Exodus and TD2.
Who if I recall, are often paid to play and review on twitch at least.... This stinks big time.
Yeah him and Greenberg really are the polar opposite to what Phil is. Be more like Phil guys.
Forum members stay toxic as per usual.
Agree with this. It sucks because as someone that high up you usually don't get to voice any negative opinions you have without some silly backlash
How about....short, precise tutorials that don't get in the way of things more than necessary. Nuance, how does it work?
This comment here is everything you need to know about this situation.
That and Xbox having a marketing deal with Anthem
That and Xbox having a marketing deal with Anthem
I mean...
This is one of the most viewed clips on Twitch for Anthem
https://livestreamfails.com/post/41561
Reviewing without knowing how to do a combo is indeed embarrassing. Not sure what's wrong about that statement.
But you guys want a shitstorm.
Do your thing.
But you guys want a shitstorm.
Do your thing.
Theres something to be said about game reviewers sometimes missing stuff in their review but here everyone has stated that this game makes no effort to explain how combos work in the first place. Giantbomb spoke about this as well. During my time playing my friends and I were left experimenting as to what abilities combo'd to what and we honestly thought that it was just freezing enemies and then following up with another ability as the only means of pulling off combos because nothing else seemed to work.
See above. The game doesn't explain the combo system in a meaningful capacity unless you go hunting for it. Using combos is the core to the gameplay. The fact you have to go digging for how to pull it off is absurd.
Isn't he also very vocal about destiny 2. A game that is marketed by their direct rival?
Streamers weren't having much fun with Anthem either - specifically the part in question.
https://clips.twitch.tv/SmokyRoughHamsterBigBrother
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoldyRenownedSparrowYee
https://clips.twitch.tv/SmokyRoughHamsterBigBrother
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoldyRenownedSparrowYee
And it all began with Assassin's Creed Unity. They've made some bad marketing deals this gen.
Streamers:
Show you the actual game, being played
Reviewers:
Don't. Except perhaps for specially chosen excerpts.
he is entitled to his own opinion. plenty of people in the industry have spoken out against reviews.
anyway, my main issue is that the thread title makes it look like he is calling out all reviewers, he just said one single review which he didn't even give a name for had something in it that he disagreed with. Anyway, I guess its fuel for the console warriors out there. so have fun guys. /shrug
Streamers in this case are not any more at fault than game journalists. The vast majority of game review sites are directly sponsored by ads from the products they review.
The industry as a whole has a real problem when it comes to conflicts of interest.
Maybe the journalists he doesn't trust should stop covering their games and giving them air time then.
EA Access is on PC too, it's not really a deal between MS and EA.
To be fair, almost every review I've read this morning makes mention of the combo system and how wonderful it feels. It seems to be an oversight on the reviewers behalf.
Not to mention he also suggested trying the demo and getting friends' opinions. Normally, this would be good advice. Though using the term "modern reviews" isn't a good look.
Nah. It all began with their used games decision.
It was so bad that even with Titanfall being touted as the "hot exclusive everyone needs to play" back then, they couldn't get momentum.
Maybe my friend group is different but they usually don't blindly buy games. No one I know is planning to buy Anthem due to bad perception and talk around the game. I'm not going to get feedback if people don't buy it.
You don't have to agree with everything a streamer is saying.
You can literally see what they're doing as they do it - formulate your own opinions based on that.
Yes, you could read the first tweet in a more innocent way, but he insisted and insisted with later tweets (the game hasn't launched still!) and now it's clear the intention.
Nothing toxic about it. It's not his place to discredit a reviewer, especially considering the position he's in. Maybe wording it differently would help, but it is still valid to criticize his criticism, since the criticism against the game is validated.
He loves dark souls. Insinuating the combo system being poorly explained in anthem is at all related to conscious design choices in dakr souls to obscure pretty much everything is quite silly.
This is also true. This was the way I found out about combos, having to go in the awful mess of that UI after reading the description on an item.
I don't blame anyone for not knowing about them.