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Mike Ybarra, Corporate VP of Xbox, says critics of an Anthem area are “whining” and it is “embarrassing to review with such a lack of knowledge”
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Aah, yeah this is basically exactly what the Ars reviewer said. All of a sudden the game starts telling you or suggesting you or something to use Combos, it even does a little animation or whatever when you pull one off, but the reviewer said he had no idea what a combo was, what the reward was, how you do it, or anything else. He thought it was never explained once in the game. Having not played the game, I dunno if maybe it was something the reviewer just missed or not, but sounds like... Nope.
Yeah, i understand :) I just wanted to point out/underline what my stand/intention was on this subject, so it wasnt understood like i was agreeing with him if hes dissing reviews.
A platform holder with a clear stake in the product being reviewed, even.
I'm fine with calling out reviewers who didn't take the time to find out how to combo (or who did, but were frustrated it wasn't part of the in-game explanation). There's lots to munch on when it comes to finding the balance for tutorials - how much is told to a player, how much is meant to be discovered, etc. But the replies that talks about "modern reviews?" Woof.
Whoever did his media training must be bashing their heads against their desks right now. If you want to make the point that there are games that are better suited to the experiences of players playing over a long period of time, who invest in the world and see it grow, or where the fun found in game doesn't always translate to strong reviews that are often published on a tight deadline, that's a valid point. But you can do that without discrediting a very important part of the video game ecosystem.
Whoever did his media training must be bashing their heads against their desks right now. If you want to make the point that there are games that are better suited to the experiences of players playing over a long period of time, who invest in the world and see it grow, or where the fun found in game doesn't always translate to strong reviews that are often published on a tight deadline, that's a valid point. But you can do that without discrediting a very important part of the video game ecosystem.
I wouldn't even publicly critique a vendor at my low level job.
He's an executive. It might seem like a crazy concept, but he is in fact, held to different standards than us anonymous posters on an online gaming forum.
How would anyone determine the amount of pages in a thread without you to let us all know?
I mean, that's the good thing about watching streams. You have a far greater ability to make up your own mind.
But...he's only saying you should watch a stream because they're playing uncut gameplay for hours on end. It's not a suggestion that streamers are infallible game gods.
I expect someone to hold themselves not to my standards, but the standards commensurate with their position in the industry.
This dude is fucking up, whether or not a whole bunch of us also post like assholes on a daily basis.
Because nothing he's said or done to this point has been seen by Microsoft as embarrassing enough to take public-facing action.
If you don't find anyone's opinions credible, what the fuck are you doing posting here on Reset?
wow game reviewers are even more powerful than i thought if they have mind control abilities.
Are you claiming he's not entitled to his opinion? I think what he's done is brilliant and it'll hopefully prevent other reviewers from doing equally as crap jobs out of fear of being called out on said crap job. At least someone had the guts to say it how it really is.
While I agree with you, it does highlight some design oversights that will probably reflect some casual players experiences. IMO it's still a valid review. If a review doesn't understand or misses a game mechanic there's a good chance there's a portion of the player base who will do so as well. I don't feel this is a case of "oh wow I derped out and can't believe I missed that".
Yeah that was infuriating and I actually felt bad that I roasted The Order 1886 based on his video.
Also I 100% agree with this. Mike could have used better wording and explained his stance better. Not every reviewer is doing a poor job.
There are games designed around minimal tutorialisation, and do so well. Souls games would be a prime example.
Anthem is not doing that at all.
Yup, and others are free to criticise them for a shit review.
How can you engage with a system if you were never aware of it's existence?
Usually I write between eight and ten reviews a month. I cover almost every genre from AAA to indie. I tend to stress myself out over whether or not my reviews are accurate, informative, and entertaining.
What do I get out of all this? Honestly, I still haven't figured that part out yet. The pay is nonexistent and half the time it feels like everyone hates my guts.
I don't want to hear about being held to higher standards. The standards I hold myself to are already ridiculously goddamn high.
Spot on. Why should every game and mechanic be paired along with some handholdy tutorial or dialogue? What ever happened to emergent systems are hidden design that is shared throughout the community? This happens all the time in games... Especially the really good ones. If you don't understand the combo system in this game, you aren't looking hard enough, either, because there ARE in-game UI elements that advertise something is happening. I'm sure there's more depth that people haven't yet found out about either and to me that's a good thing.
Difference is, Anthem requires you to do X amount of combos to advance the main missions. It's a literal bar you have to fill but don't explain how to do it unless you search.
Well he doesn't seem to care about confirming to this standard of "don't say certain things i don't like", so what are we going to do now?
they cn do what they want, and we can do what we want and criticize a lazy review
or do you disagree with that?
Discrediting all game reviews is something I don't like, wow you're right
At the bottom of the page it tells you how many pages the thread has. #ProTips
Then you end up like this, right?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ig...-for-misinformation-review-gets-pulled.87252/
Sometimes it's okay to call out because it's clearly wrong, other times it's...
Who discredited all game reviews?
If it wasn't ready for people to buy and for reviewers to play then why are EA selling it and why are they sending it to reviewers.
The "I don't do reviews" tweet is such a bad look. He's essentially an official MS spokesperson saying that traditional reviews of their products are irrelevant... If I worked at IGN etc. I'd be pretty pissed about that. Also a corporation telling you outright not to consider independent reviews for their products, just because they're bad, is a terrible look.
And that's leaving alone the fact that the "try it yourself to see if you like it" line is such a tired gamer argument. You see that shit in every review thread when a game is getting trashed.
And that's leaving alone the fact that the "try it yourself to see if you like it" line is such a tired gamer argument. You see that shit in every review thread when a game is getting trashed.
Many of them for peanuts. Fly them out and give them a cool press kit is all it takes for some to give you a glowing preview.
And until that happens Mike should feel free to post however he wants.
That's not how life works, in order to set standards which you're doing YOU should also live by them.
Those games aren't gated by requiring you to do a combo 5 times. Those are very much a play however you want games. Anthem, at least going through the main story missions, is not one of those games.
Pretty sure I did this shrine extremely late into the game in my first play-through as well (and had a similarly baffled reaction, though I'd at least figured out these mechanics already). Breath of the Wild's open-ended structure makes something like this possible, so I don't get the ridicule here. It's pretty funny though.