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Hysterical. You busted out all of the buzzwords to deflect. Good try warrior. Please dont forget to use unhinged as well.
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Mike Ybarra, Corporate VP of Xbox, says critics of an Anthem area are “whining” and it is “embarrassing to review with such a lack of knowledge”
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Hysterical. You busted out all of the buzzwords to deflect. Good try warrior. Please dont forget to use unhinged as well.
Yes, there's definitely a problem there, but I think it was unfair to imply that he was trying to point people towards biased opinions with his tweet.
Calling them out on it? Certainly. Almost 2000 posts in a 33 page thread littered with conspiracy theories? I don't think so. Lets be clear, I do not defend his shitty post. Call him out on it all you want, he earned it. But to turn it into some kind of corporate conspiracy? Nah, thats BS in my opinion.
Lol being defensive about something you have a vested interest in is a conspiracy theory now. That's called human nature.
I don't disagree that people are reading way too into it. Like I really don't think it's his master plan to get people to only watch sponsored streams or whatever, I think that's pretty disrespectful to said streamers even. But it's takes like that which is why people in his position should be a lot more careful with their wording, especially when their corporation has significant investments in the product that's getting a poor critical reception.
I do think those takes would happen regardless of if he worked for Sony, Nintendo, EA, Activision or whoever.
it's not a conspiracy, but he has stakes and biases that should not be ignored.
I'm a reviewer who is an expert at playing games.
It means jack shit.
This is you in another thread a few days ago:
A consumer heavily invested in Xbox who is hurting from its decline equates people correctly concluding an Xbox marketing executive is attacking critiques of a partnered marketing deal game to defend a business facing a decline in public image to a conspiracy theory.
Funny how that works.
This is such a nothing burger. Are we going to share and critique all of his new tweets? Oh, looks like someone named Alex just won a year of gamepass.
You might be a good person to ask. I've been looking for a fair and balanced forum that doesn't have it out for Xbox. Help me out?
I think with Ybarra did was a bit arrogant though I do somewhat agree, never really listened to any reviews for games and film these days, and form my own opinion based on what I play. I wish others would do the same sometimes.
That's fine for you, but I'd rather have some idea before I throw away cash.
Indeed, A New Hope. I'm looking for a good game to play MP with my RL friends, haven't really done MP since I burned out of MHW eight months ago.
I like how you sum up how these threads typically manifest themselves (which for what you are describing sounds like a fanboy war thread) but then move forward to state you tired of the old melodrama of having someone point it out somehow?
What?
You are kind of also contributing to the post count?
Honestly I'll leave you guys too it, lol
Wonderful post ... *chefs kiss*
This one's also pretty good, but for totally different reasons.
I think we should require people who post on this forum to be an expert on games.
I think maybe we'll get 500 accounts that way!
Just like when I say Michael Jordan is the best basketball player ever :P.
That was very unprofessional for such a high position in such a powerful company, but ultimately arguable because of the mere subjectivity of videogame reviewing.
That said, a bit of a conspiracy theory: what if that New Dawn as an add-on tweet was because he knows that Ubisoft will have some kind of exclusivity deal with Google?
That said, a bit of a conspiracy theory: what if that New Dawn as an add-on tweet was because he knows that Ubisoft will have some kind of exclusivity deal with Google?
Except he pointed to the Forza Horizon reviews at the time of release and recommended the game based on the scores it was getting.
He's inconsistent.
Am I crazy or is the post you responded to dripping in sarcasm? Pretty sure that user is saying the same thing as you.
I've been following Mike since basically the XB1 launched because he used to do a ton of giveaways.
He is a huge gamer and more importantly a huge fan of loot games. He has spent hundreds of hours with both Destiny and Diablo and often times used his twitter to promote his enjoyment of those games despite both of those games being promoted by playstation. There are plenty receipts to show this if you want to dig through his twitter.
This isn't a case of Microsoft Exec going to bat for a game with marketing rights, this is the case of a Microsoft Exec going full on fanboy over a game review and having a "review thread" type meltdown over some poor reviews of a game he was highly anticipating and has already invested a bunch of hours in and loves.
Should an Xbox Exec be acting like a fanboy on twitter? No probably not, but I don't think its coming from the angle you think its coming from.
Ybara almost always comes off in social media like someone just gave him a massive wedgie. Xbox has a lot riding on Anthem and "Games as a Service" in general which is the root of his angst right now. It seems like "Games As a Service" is what will typify most of Xbox's future offerings, however gamers en masse are beginning to reject these kinds of parasitic gaming tools of profit. Many of these aren't even recognizable as complete/cohesive games just disparate but small collections of very familiar game mechanics.
Funny how you clip the quote instead of posting the whole thing. The point of my post you quoted was challenging when to give up on the MS brand, not blindly defending it. I own every system and my Gamertag/ID's show that. And your post does not disprove my initial point. Calling him out for a stupid post is good and important. Overreacting to a stupid tweet and calling it a concerted effort by his corporate overlord to destroy the review process, is BS>
Lmao for real
Also the fact that there were 2 terrible demos already doesnt help his case
Fair and accurate statement. He could absolutely have bias's. We all do. This is just my opinion, but it "feels" like his bias here is the fact that he was a fan of a game he dumped a bunch of hours into and its getting crapped on. NOT, "oh shit, I need to blindly defend a third party product marketing agreement against the oppressors".
Xbox does not have a lot riding on Athem. For fucks sake.
And no gamers are not rejecting Games as a service.
[QUOTE="DarthWalden, post: 18152867, member: 12277"...He has spent hundreds of hours with both Destiny and Diablo and often times used his twitter to promote his enjoyment of those games despite both of those games being promoted by playstation.[/QUOTE]
Uuuummmm...regardless of whether the marketing rights were with Playstation the fact that it's on Xbox means he doesn't have to pay a penny for anything. Most people would put hundreds of hours into "Games As a service" if the game and everything in-game that had a real world price tag was $0.00 to them.
This is one of the major problems I have had with Warframe. Pretty much every person that makes any kind of guide on Youtube is a DE affiliate and they've payed $0.00 for everything they're telling you how to eternally grind to get and it's fraud, becuase they have no idea how much grinding is actually necessary and as a result their gear guides are fraudulent.
Uuuummmm...regardless of whether the marketing rights were with Playstation the fact that it's on Xbox means he doesn't have to pay a penny for anything. Most people would put hundreds of hours into "Games As a service" if the game and everything in-game that had a real world price tag was $0.00 to them.
This is one of the major problems I have had with Warframe. Pretty much every person that makes any kind of guide on Youtube is a DE affiliate and they've payed $0.00 for everything they're telling you how to eternally grind to get and it's fraud, becuase they have no idea how much grinding is actually necessary and as a result their gear guides are fraudulent.
oh hell naw. My friend told him the "streamers" (he didnt say which) was the ones that said the game was awesome and for him to get it.
Granted, he is having fun. But myself? I like to read all comments at ERA before buying. That way I know all the good and bad. Watching a streamer alone can be very bad because they might be at the very beginning of the game, love senseless grinding, etc. We all know what's up no need for me to type this
Nah, he's right pretty much across the board. He just shouldn't have said anything.
Thats crazy talk.
You should see a doctor if those troubling thoughts persist.
Anthem has only been demoed at MS events while the fewest copies of all EA games are sold on Xbox. EA didn't snuggle up to Xbox with Anthem because they like the kind of potato chips Phil likes. MS just paid EA a shit ton of money for Xbox exclusive EA marketing/event promo. etc. Phil SPencer has already commented on the idea that "Games As a Service are where it's at."
Battlefield V bombed, I'm sure Battlefront 2 not only underperformed in retail, but is viewed as a bomb internally since they're not seeing anywhere near the MT sales they projected since they eliminated the majority of the MT scheme that was originally in place. Bungie self-deported from Activision with Destiny after Destiny 2 underperformed and couldn't maintain player engagement, thus eliminating the future of their precious MT scheme forced into that franchise. Fallout 76 has been abysmal public failure.
All of the major AAA studios that heavily invested in developing and implementing manipulative MT schemes have been damaged by significant stock losses most likely resulting from revealed internal financials dropping off dramatically from projections given just a few months ago. I would be remiss to not mention #firebobbykotick.
Activision just put loot boxes into COD, that they probably pulled after the very public condemnation of Battlefront 2 as a "Star Wars themed Casino for children." Most likely the lootboxes were added to COD to make up for the loss of Destiny. There are multiple countries where publishers can't legally add lootboxes and even the term "lootbox" is radioactive now, so you can be sure they didn't previously plan to add lootboxes to the game.
So you think Crackdown 3 and Sea Thieves are just waiting for their second winds? Microsoft pretty much sold out this generation for third party sales, everyone knows that.
it is exactly that even if he didn't mean it that way. dude needs to be aware of his position and the context of the discussion around game reviews and streaming.
someone, please, this thread
When you want a thread closed but you end up bumping it instead.
They also add this at the end, which I assume is the part he didn't think made sense.
"I still don't understand half of the power values listed in the game's menus, let alone how to successfully trigger combos with teammates"
Not to mention they think the guns in the game suck, when the higher-end guns will do more damage than skills - particularly if you're not able to parse out the combo system...and that they can't understand why guns would have bonuses for other guns that people might also carry...
Thankfully you don't represent the the vast majority of people who visit websites for reviews and other content. You aren't the audience we write for. You never were.