I'll forgive Microsoft for these bad tweets if they finally bring Blur to backward compatibility.
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Mike Ybarra, Corporate VP of Xbox, says critics of an Anthem area are “whining” and it is “embarrassing to review with such a lack of knowledge”
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If EAand BioWare didn't want people judging the game based on what they put out last week, then they should've released a better version for Origin Access Premier members.
If you're assigned a game to review then you have an embargo deadline you have to agree to. It looks bad for an outlet to consistently miss their embargo deadlines.
Yeah this is how I see it aswell.
If anything the ones jumping down his throat are the ones that look bad, he's allowed to have an opinion.
That's pretty hilariously hypocritical. Reviewers job is to criticise the hard work of people under frequent attack. Getting all self-righteous because someone dared to offer some tame criticism of them - and suggest that they might want to actually go and watch the game instead of just reading some guys opinion on it - is ridiculous.
An executive potentially putting their foot in their mouth is not something exclusive to Microsoft. All the platforms, publishers, and developers have execs that do it. Heck, just look at some of the recent Sony stuff.
journalism isn't game reviews. enthusiast press is generally people wanting free copies of games and are willing to do a poor job writing. The exceptional ones go independent and don't work for a site, they do their own consultant work. The real work being done by real quality reviewers are done working specifically for the publishers so they know how things are coming along, what they CAN fix, what they can't fix, and how they spend their time developing.
I feel like his opinions are coming from a genuine place, but it's not appropriate for someone in his position. Also most of the streamers I've seen have been saying to wait on Anthem anyway.
I'm not in the market to buy the game, why would I go out of my way to watch content of a game I can't afford?
I don't entirely disagree with him on that point, really. If I think I might want to buy a game I'll watch a video for the gameplay and rarely look at reviews.
You don't have to get so bent out of shape over a one-off comment relating to the fact that I just beat the last game they released yesterday.
This makes no sense. Even if you strongly disagree with Mikes take on this. So what? He is the features guy at Xbox. These days features are probably the strongest thing Xbox has going so I think it's fair to say Mike is good at his job. Guy likes Anthem and doesn't like what some reviewers said about the game. Again, I really don't see why this is so controversial.
Devs getting death threats doesn't mean it's open season for executives to shit on the press.
"People should stop criticising this game the company I worked for paid a lot of money for marketing rights to. It's not even out yet even though you can buy and play it."
Yeeeeep. What a mess.
Why? Watching the game being played or actually playing it like he mentioned is a lot better than reading what someone else thought about it. Not wvery stream on twitch is sponsored. Get a grip, guys.
Yup, there's not much we can do. We live in a world of inmediate consumption and satisfaction, and people just have to work around it.
I can't handle this drama. I'm getting old and can't keep up with what I'm supposed to be angered about anymore.
Exactly. They want you to either waste money and time finding out yourself that a product sucks (or your friend's money) with no chance of a refund OR just watch someone paid by EA to stream it. So blatant.
Its the integrity of it. I doubt he would be so vocal and make those classless remarks towards reviewers if he and his team didnt have the marketing rights
No. He should put in the extra effort to work out what the mechanic is. Then write about how the mechanic is poorly explained.
Hi i'm random twitch streamer and I have to act like i'm on happy pills ALL the time to keep my subs, don't forget to like, subscribe and follow me on instagram and twitter!
Now Anthem, what don't I like about it? That it's almost TOO GOOD!
Oh and big shout out to Microsoft for sponsoring this early look!!!!!!!!
Watching streams can be great, but that doesn't mean we should throw standard reviews under the bus and dismiss them as no longer being "modern" or "relevant"
Is it the last Bombcast that came out? I need to give it a listen.
I don't think anyone is saying the game can't get better over time. Destiny 1+2 both got better with updates (but were still pretty well liked at launch too, plus they gave Destiny 2 away for free a few months back on PC), Warframe got massively better with updates (but that game's also free...), Anthem will surely get at least a little better with more content, patches, and tweaks.
What they are saying is that the $60 product they put on shelves is not that great, and that's all there is to review at the moment. If the game was free and steadily got content updates and tweaks that's one thing, but a full priced retail game releasing in a mediocre state (according to most reviewers, I haven't personally played it yet) is not going to be a thing I would ever suggest someone go out and buy in the hope that it might get better in the future.
Likely because Xbox owners are able to play the game in "early access" as part of some deal between EA and MS. Either way, it's not a good look.
thanks for the reply! i feel like there are so many places that review games now it's kind of hard to see which ones are 'expectional' or do i just need a list of sites that fit the criteria?
1. This isn't shitting.
2. Why is it always open season for "the press" to "shit on" developers then? Why is criticism above criticism?
Is "watch modern reviews" the FAKE NEWS CROOKED MEDIA ATTACK of the gaming world?
Ybarra is long overdue for the boot. He frequently fuels console war chat, promotes/retweets questionable gaming personalities, and gets an attitude about stuff like this.
It's really at odds with the rest of the team's messaging. Particularly Phil.
Ybarra is long overdue for the boot. He frequently fuels console war chat, promotes/retweets questionable gaming personalities, and gets an attitude about stuff like this.
It's really at odds with the rest of the team's messaging. Particularly Phil.
He didn't have to say anything. If Jim Ryan came out and said this he'd be rightfully piled on as well. It costs Mike nothing to keep his mouth shut. Why point out this particular review? And then to go on and say you should watch streamers instead is bad.
Streamers who get paid to play these games. Like EA will pay these streamers to play their game for the first few days for exposure. You think that persons opinion isn't going to be biased from the start?
Couldn't disagree more but this is a complicated subject because there are a few things going on here but namely: a choice being forced to either side with the games/devs or the press. Really what one thinks about what Mike says here depends on the lens they look at things.
Anyway, my feeling is this: a dev and its people have been working around the clock to put this game out. People gloss over a review or an aggregate score and can and do dismiss a game in seconds , jump on a hate bandwagon because of hivemind effect, and so on.
Contrast this with watching a stream. Your words in the quote above get hung up on the streamer him/herself but not the advantages of seeing a game in action over a span of time that does more to inform a potential customer than a 5 minute read or a 2 second glance at an aggregate score.
The reviewer doesn't know what his audience can or can't tolerate , if they'll gravitate to the characters, the world, if they'll be able to overlook one bad thing the reviewer can't because they like other things far more. It's hard to quantify anything from a review.
Anyway back to Mike, it looks like he's just defending a developer in an industry he is an exec in and who he wants to see do well.
Everything, be angry about everything...
Seriously though I think we are just reaching a tipping point where gamers are fed up with new games that are just unfinished and publishers are demanding full price for this, topped with decietiful and misleading practices intermixed. It's just not acceptable anymore and I think reviewers are finally catching up to the rest of us who believe that ideology.
Fallout 76 + Crackdown + Anthem
MS put their apples in the wrong baskets