- Oct 25, 2017
Tench is the man. Great acting.
Loved this but they ended the first season at a lame place.
Loved this but they ended the first season at a lame place.
Thats the BTK killer. There is no way the show is gonna last that long to see him get caught, dude managed to do his shit for a long time with a break in between even before he was eventually was caught. Either the show might fast forward or just have him be the one that got away. I was surprised when they started going with that angle but they must have a plan I guess.marathoned it last night after coming home after passing out on a couch and waking up in the middle of the night and ubering home.
You'll really have to be in the mood for this but the creepy performances by the actors playing the serial killers really make this more so than the 3 leads (but everyone is great). The kemper + guy who plays the shoe fetish killer were both amazing. Shoe killer had such a creepy weird quality about him.
I thought they'd go somewhere with the guy they show glimpses of every episode but they didnt - maybe they'll open with his first kill in season2.
Anna Torv is great. I haven't seen her in much since Fringe but I like her dryness here.
This post is hidden bullshit needs to stop
The show does fast forward at some point. Fincher says there is plans for I believe five seasons and BTK will be the over arching plot.Great show. I was riveted throughout but I do have a fascination with serial killers so it would have had to been really bad for me to not like it. Funny thing, after the show was done about a week later I tried to recall the show back but I could not put a face on the actor who played Holden lol. Idk if maybe the guy has the most average looking face but I could recall most of the show except his face. I know ppl did not like the performance the actor playing him put but I thought he was fine. I was expecting him to do something weird though like when Dutch choked the cat in the Shield but it never happened. Guy gives off some weird vibes.
Thats the BTK killer. There is no way the show is gonna last that long to see him get caught, dude managed to do his shit for a long time with a break in between even before he was eventually was caught. Either the show might fast forward or just have him be the one that got away. I was surprised when they started going with that angle but they must have a plan I guess.
I just found this article:
Yea I think that's the one I read. I wonder if they'll touch on BTK's capture, even in a montage moment at the end of the series. It's kinda the culmination of a lot of hard learned lessons for the police and FBI.I just found this article:
"[The BTK Killer] wasn't caught until 2005. He was literally at large for 30 years! We try to remain true to the details of the crimes...Let's hope to God that we get to do this for five seasons. [But] we may never catch the guy. Our journey begins in 1978, are we really going to go up to 2005? I don't think so. We'll span a number of years, but not all of those years. These guys don't solve all of their cases. You don't get to solve them all in real life, and you don't get to solve them all in MINDHUNTER."
Fringe is one of my favorite shows of all time. It has some really awesome twists if you don't know what the show is about and it's layered with foreshadowing and references that reward you for multiple viewings. I liked Torv's performance in Mindhunter the best though.
I didn't have that much of a problem with that because it was showing the effect their work was having on them.
I felt the same way at the end. There’s no arc or real story here. It just ends. The whole season just felt directionless. The characters and acting are what keeps the show interesting, but I don’t know if I’m aboard with season 2.I didn't have that much of a problem with that because it was showing the effect their work was having on them.
My only problem with the show is I thought it ended really weird. No spoilers, but there just wasn't any closure for any of the storylines. Excited to see where season 2 takes us.
I disagree. I thought the ending was well done and goes nicely with the whole season. I made a thread about it here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-mindhunter-on-netflix-is-mindfucking-watch-it-now.7170/
Since finishing Mindhunter on Netflix - which at the time I thought an alright show at the time, I look at humans differently and the show is one of the craziest mindfuck subversion I've felt. Holy cripes let me unpack.
I approached the show much like Holden Ford at the time. Without giving away too much, Holden is an idealistic young FBI profiler who approaches situations and persons very clinically and without any bias or subjective emotional context. Much like him, I approached the show. The premise of the show is basically how Behavioral Science Unit is established at the FBI through countless profiling of serial killers. Holden's partner is Bill Tench, who is the opposite. He is a veteran FBI agent. He feels disgust at the serial killers and cant stand to be in the same room as these psychopaths. I am watching the show unfold and listening to all the grisly murders just like Holden is. I am....fascinated by these monsters just like him. They're enigmatic and hiding their true selves beneath the thin veneer. I too want to hear more and more, and I simply couldn't wait until Holden interviewed another crazy. I slowly realize that we're talking about humans being murdered - lives, hopes, dreams, communities shattered. For no good reason. But I still wanted more. Until the finale.
After the show ended, I started down the wikipedia and google rabbit hole of serial killers like Kemper and their exploits and holy crap this is absolutely unspeakable evil. Pure, unfiltered evil. All of these serial killers are. I felt like I was an absolute idiot approaching the killers with such sterile view and no moral compass. The show grabbed me by the shoulders and shook me out of my apathy by the end and I thought it was an absolute brilliant piece of filmmaking by Fincher. I am not sure if anyone felt the same way that I did, but please watch the show. It will make you ponder. And dont go down the wikipedia holes of these psychopaths. Its a truly dark place. And today I feel like its one of the best shows ever made.When Kemper gets up and tells Holden that he can kill him in a second, I felt a rush of blood. And then he hugs him, and it felt that ~I~ was giving Kemper a hug because I also felt fascinated by him and thought he was pretty chill in the interviews. I suddenly realized that these people are not just pieces of enigma - but terrible threats to humanity. I wanted to run away as well!
I agree with you with what makes the show interesting, but there is no closure to any of the storylines.I disagree. I thought the ending was well done and goes nicely with the whole season. I made a thread about it here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-mindhunter-on-netflix-is-mindfucking-watch-it-now.7170/
Reposting my thoughts
Heading to Southern Georgia, “Mindhunter” season two will focus on the infamous Atlanta child murders of the late 1970s and early 80s, which featured the relatively uncommon case of an African-American serial killer —in real life, Wayne Williams, who was tried, convicted, and sentenced to life imprisonment for killing two adult men, but never convicted of the deaths of twenty three murders of young children (though it’s unclear how close to the real events the show will hew). Stars Jonathan Groff, Holt McCallany, and Anna Torv will all return.
Meanwhile, Fincher has found his directors for the follow-up season and sources tell us there are only three filmmakers scheduled this time; Fincher himself directing the premiere and finale episodes like he did in season one, Andrew Dominik (“The Assassination of Jesse James,” “Killing Me Softly”) will helm another two, and filmmaker Carl Franklin (“Devil In A Blue Dress,” “One False Move”), who’s become something of a journeyman director on TV in recent years (“House Of Cards,” ” The Leftovers,” “13 Reasons Why,” “Vinyl” and more), will direct the rest and bulk of the show.
Last I heard, there were only eight episodes this season; the inaugural one, which featured four filmmakers — Asif Kapadia, Tobias Lindholm, Andrew Douglas and Fincher — had ten.
Fincher is currently in Pittsburgh doing prep on season two which starts at the end of the month. It should keep him busy for most of the year and regardless, I’m told Netflix intends to hold it for an early 2019 release.
Inconsistent with their times so they can be consistent with their pacing. I hate when shows cram things to make some allotted time slot
It’s just jarring to watch an hour and then boom an episode done so quickly right after.
Unfortunately you won’t see any of this “innocence” part.Oh wow, that's a great case to base the second season around. If anyone's interested, there's a pretty in depth podcast about it called Atlanta Monster. It puts forward a pretty compelling case that Wayne Williams is unlikely to be the murderer, although that's obviously not conclusive in any way.
Former FBI profiler John E. Douglas wrote in his book Mindhunter that, in his opinion, "forensic and behavioral evidence points conclusively to Wayne Williams as the killer of eleven young men in Atlanta." He added, however, that he believed there was "no strong evidence linking him to all or even most of the deaths and disappearances of children in that city between 1979 and 1981."
He's saying that because the show is based loosely on that profiler, his belief that the guy was guilty will likely influence the narrative of the show to suggest the same, even if there is a lack of specific evidence.
But the quote doesn't say that IMO. It says he was guilty of other crimes, but there was little to link him to this case.
Oh, I think I misunderstood the quote. He was actually found guilty of the murder of two adults, but while it was believed he could have been responsible for the infamous child murders, there was no evidence actually suggesting that. You're right.