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Mindhunter | Netflix | - No love for fincher?
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Good series, binged it in 2 days. Liked most of it. One of the best Netflix shows I've seen. Felt weird how they sort of dropped Tench's wife/kid side story, as after just staying at the office for one trip (guessing due to what happened at home) I figured there'd be some focus on that, but not mentioned in the remaining episodes.
And holy shit Carrie Coon and Anna Torv could be freaking twins going by Anna's looks in this show. I mean, I did a double take in the first scene she was in, but quickly realized it was Anna Torv, but the resemblance is uncanny.
And holy shit Carrie Coon and Anna Torv could be freaking twins going by Anna's looks in this show. I mean, I did a double take in the first scene she was in, but quickly realized it was Anna Torv, but the resemblance is uncanny.
Finished it.
Really hope they bring back Ed Kemper again next season. The actor's performance was amazingly unsettling and eerie.
Thought Torv was pretty bland in Fringe and the lowpoint of the cast but I actually thought she did rather well here, this character feels like a better fit for her.
Really hope they bring back Ed Kemper again next season. The actor's performance was amazingly unsettling and eerie.
Thought Torv was pretty bland in Fringe and the lowpoint of the cast but I actually thought she did rather well here, this character feels like a better fit for her.
Finally got around to this and tore through it. Absolutely loved it. The actors they got for the serial killers absolutely killed it (lol), so unsettling.
Apparently season 2 will focus on
. Definitely an interesting place to take the show for the cultural shift it will offer.
Apparently season 2 will focus on
the Atlanta child killings
marathoned it last night after coming home after passing out on a couch and waking up in the middle of the night and ubering home.
You'll really have to be in the mood for this but the creepy performances by the actors playing the serial killers really make this more so than the 3 leads (but everyone is great). The kemper + guy who plays the shoe fetish killer were both amazing. Shoe killer had such a creepy weird quality about him.
I thought they'd go somewhere with the guy they show glimpses of every episode but they didnt - maybe they'll open with his first kill in season2.
Anna Torv is great. I haven't seen her in much since Fringe but I like her dryness here.
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You'll really have to be in the mood for this but the creepy performances by the actors playing the serial killers really make this more so than the 3 leads (but everyone is great). The kemper + guy who plays the shoe fetish killer were both amazing. Shoe killer had such a creepy weird quality about him.
I thought they'd go somewhere with the guy they show glimpses of every episode but they didnt - maybe they'll open with his first kill in season2.
Anna Torv is great. I haven't seen her in much since Fringe but I like her dryness here.
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Great show. I was riveted throughout but I do have a fascination with serial killers so it would have had to been really bad for me to not like it. Funny thing, after the show was done about a week later I tried to recall the show back but I could not put a face on the actor who played Holden lol. Idk if maybe the guy has the most average looking face but I could recall most of the show except his face. I know ppl did not like the performance the actor playing him put but I thought he was fine. I was expecting him to do something weird though like when Dutch choked the cat in the Shield but it never happened. Guy gives off some weird vibes.
Thats the BTK killer. There is no way the show is gonna last that long to see him get caught, dude managed to do his shit for a long time with a break in between even before he was eventually was caught. Either the show might fast forward or just have him be the one that got away. I was surprised when they started going with that angle but they must have a plan I guess.
The show does fast forward at some point. Fincher says there is plans for I believe five seasons and BTK will be the over arching plot.
Yeah it makes sense, never kept up with the press stuff before release so I wasn't sure.
Loved this show and I think Tench was the standout for me. Really great performance from the actor. Felt like there was another 2 episodes in the season though, didn't realise it was the last one. Anything similar to this? Thinking of watching True Detective S1 again.
Halfway through and I didn't realize how much I missed Anna Torv in my life after Fringe ended. Really enjoying it so far. It had been on my backlog for a while but I have some vacation days to burn through before the new year and started watching it yesterday. Good stuff and glad it's already been picked up for Season 2.
I just found this article:
http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/178474/mindhunter-bill-tench-child-future-serial-killer
"[The BTK Killer] wasn't caught until 2005. He was literally at large for 30 years! We try to remain true to the details of the crimes...Let's hope to God that we get to do this for five seasons. [But] we may never catch the guy. Our journey begins in 1978, are we really going to go up to 2005? I don't think so. We'll span a number of years, but not all of those years. These guys don't solve all of their cases. You don't get to solve them all in real life, and you don't get to solve them all in MINDHUNTER."
Yea I think that's the one I read. I wonder if they'll touch on BTK's capture, even in a montage moment at the end of the series. It's kinda the culmination of a lot of hard learned lessons for the police and FBI.
A montage at the end of the series is definitely something I could see how they solve the BTK-case. Or even where a young man (who turns out to be a serial killer, too) watches the capture of BTK on TV and you see that it won't never end.
This show is incredible. I wish it was even longer but all good things must come to an end eventually. I love how nuanced the characters are and how much time is spent on simply letting us observe the characters in their natural habitat without any particular plot attached. It makes everything feel so much more immersive. Can't wait for season 2!
Fringe is one of my favorite shows of all time. It has some really awesome twists if you don't know what the show is about and it's layered with foreshadowing and references that reward you for multiple viewings. I liked Torv's performance in Mindhunter the best though.
Fringe is one of my favorite shows of all time. It has some really awesome twists if you don't know what the show is about and it's layered with foreshadowing and references that reward you for multiple viewings. I liked Torv's performance in Mindhunter the best though.
I didn't have that much of a problem with that because it was showing the effect their work was having on them.
My only problem with the show is I thought it ended really weird. No spoilers, but there just wasn't any closure for any of the storylines. Excited to see where season 2 takes us.
I felt the same way at the end. There's no arc or real story here. It just ends. The whole season just felt directionless. The characters and acting are what keeps the show interesting, but I don't know if I'm aboard with season 2.
I disagree. I thought the ending was well done and goes nicely with the whole season. I made a thread about it here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-mindhunter-on-netflix-is-mindfucking-watch-it-now.7170/
Reposting my thoughts
Since finishing Mindhunter on Netflix - which at the time I thought an alright show at the time, I look at humans differently and the show is one of the craziest mindfuck subversion I've felt. Holy cripes let me unpack.
I approached the show much like Holden Ford at the time. Without giving away too much, Holden is an idealistic young FBI profiler who approaches situations and persons very clinically and without any bias or subjective emotional context. Much like him, I approached the show. The premise of the show is basically how Behavioral Science Unit is established at the FBI through countless profiling of serial killers. Holden's partner is Bill Tench, who is the opposite. He is a veteran FBI agent. He feels disgust at the serial killers and cant stand to be in the same room as these psychopaths. I am watching the show unfold and listening to all the grisly murders just like Holden is. I am....fascinated by these monsters just like him. They're enigmatic and hiding their true selves beneath the thin veneer. I too want to hear more and more, and I simply couldn't wait until Holden interviewed another crazy. I slowly realize that we're talking about humans being murdered - lives, hopes, dreams, communities shattered. For no good reason. But I still wanted more. Until the finale.
Spoiler territory
After the show ended, I started down the wikipedia and google rabbit hole of serial killers like Kemper and their exploits and holy crap this is absolutely unspeakable evil. Pure, unfiltered evil. All of these serial killers are. I felt like I was an absolute idiot approaching the killers with such sterile view and no moral compass. The show grabbed me by the shoulders and shook me out of my apathy by the end and I thought it was an absolute brilliant piece of filmmaking by Fincher. I am not sure if anyone felt the same way that I did, but please watch the show. It will make you ponder. And dont go down the wikipedia holes of these psychopaths. Its a truly dark place. And today I feel like its one of the best shows ever made.When Kemper gets up and tells Holden that he can kill him in a second, I felt a rush of blood. And then he hugs him, and it felt that ~I~ was giving Kemper a hug because I also felt fascinated by him and thought he was pretty chill in the interviews. I suddenly realized that these people are not just pieces of enigma - but terrible threats to humanity. I wanted to run away as well!
I agree with you with what makes the show interesting, but there is no closure to any of the storylines.
Also, I thought the show did a bad job explaining the Kansas parts. It makes much more sense reading about it now, but they didn't explain it at all in the show.
What happens to Holden and Debbie? Do they stay apart?
What happens with Bill's son? Does he and his son get treatment?
What happens with the investigation into Holden? Does he get fired or does anything happen?
Do they get to continue with the program after the latest misstep?
What happens with Bill's son? Does he and his son get treatment?
What happens with the investigation into Holden? Does he get fired or does anything happen?
Do they get to continue with the program after the latest misstep?
Considering the choice of direction for this show, I didn't find it particularly necessary for there to be any closure. It's the end of a season, not the end of a show. It makes everything seem so much more believable when things happen this naturally instead of neatly wrapping everything up and tying it with a bow every season.
Season 1 was basically 8.
One episode was 34 min
Another was 42.
Another 45.
Really inconsistent with their times.
One episode was 34 min
Another was 42.
Another 45.
Really inconsistent with their times.
Oh wow, that's a great case to base the second season around. If anyone's interested, there's a pretty in depth podcast about it called Atlanta Monster. It puts forward a pretty compelling case that Wayne Williams is unlikely to be the murderer, although that's obviously not conclusive in any way.
Andrew Dominik's a great get, damn. Really excited for this, far and away my favorite Netflix show.
Inconsistent with their times so they can be consistent with their pacing. I hate when shows cram things to make some allotted time slot
It's just jarring to watch an hour and then boom an episode done so quickly right after.
Stranger Things Season 2 was bloated by an extra episode so Netflix will figure it out sometime.
Unfortunately you won't see any of this "innocence" part.
Not sure why you say this and then include a quote that says there is no strong evidence he was involved in the child murders that supposedly the season will be about.
He's saying that because the show is based loosely on that profiler, his belief that the guy was guilty will likely influence the narrative of the show to suggest the same, even if there is a lack of specific evidence.
If it's a sold run then I'm perfectly happy with 8 episodes. I'm getting a bit fatigued with shows like The Punisher and Jessica Jones having 13 episodes when there's clearly not enough material to warrant that many.
But the quote doesn't say that IMO. It says he was guilty of other crimes, but there was little to link him to this case.
Oh, I think I misunderstood the quote. He was actually found guilty of the murder of two adults, but while it was believed he could have been responsible for the infamous child murders, there was no evidence actually suggesting that. You're right.
