Mindhunter | Netflix | - No love for fincher?

Pacote · Oct 26, 2017

Was trying to find a thread about this awesome show but came back empty.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5290382/

Binged til episode 6 with my Gf and we both really loved it so far. The pacing is very slow at first but a good kind of slow in my opinion.

Incredible how the acting and actors choice was so tight in this show.

This guy, man THIS GUY!

We will probably finish it today or tomorrow (since wolf2 + stranger things S02 are coming!) but so far, one of the best shows on Netflix without a doubt!

Will probably be one of those shows where I will be screaming for a S02 as soon as the season finale ends.

darkness · Oct 26, 2017

It's a good show, I don't even think it's slow. The interviews are definitely the best parts, though.

I was going to talk about some spoilers, but can't see how to tag them.

SplitYourInfinities · Oct 26, 2017

It's ok, but the way the episodes are edited is weird.

Pacote · Oct 26, 2017

darkness said:
It's a good show, I don't even think it's slow. The interviews are definitely the best parts, though.

I was going to talk about some spoilers, but can't see how to tag them.

Here you just user the spoiler tag

:D

berzeli · Oct 26, 2017

It's the first good drama Netflix has had in a couple of years. I am disappointed with how underwritten the female roles are though, Torv is wasted.

darkness said:
I was going to talk about some spoilers, but can't see how to tag them.

hit the "+" sign in the editor

and you should be good to go, or write [ spoiler ] and [/ spoiler ] without the spaces

Not sure if it's the same on mobile

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

Really great first season. We binged it in three nights, so the pacing never felt off to me. Holden's character was so fucking difficult to watch, but by the end of it we had pretty much settled on

him having peered too far into the void. He's got sociopathic tendencies all season, and then the last few episodes (interaction with the girlfriend, FBI interrogation, fuckin flying out to visit Ed Kemper!?) he goes deep end. It was so satisfying seeing him break down and actually realize he'd lost it.

Eagerly awaiting season 2.

EDIT: Also, really gotta commend the show for not relying heavily on the Drop Dead Gorgeous trope; it's always disheartening to watch show after show (thrillers and killers especially) that lean on it.

darkness · Oct 26, 2017

The spoiler button was hidden on mobile under another button, heh.

Anyway, I wanted to say that season 2

is likely going to focus on the ADT guy, who is the famous BTK killer, so it should be interesting.

Dirtyshubb · Oct 26, 2017

Me and the wife finished the whole season the other day and absolutely loved it.

Very interesting and compelling too. Seeing their technique and understanding evolve was really cool.

Also the ending was pretty damn great too, can't wait for season 2.

Altazor · Oct 26, 2017

A lot of love from me. I still have to watch Episode 10, but I've really liked what I've seen.

Bill Tench is a fucking godsend of a character.

dude · Oct 26, 2017

Just finished it the other day. Great overall, some dips in the middle IMO but the ending was stellar. Will definitely stick around for season 2.

Hank Hill · Oct 26, 2017

Great OT.I was planning on making it myself.In my opinion, this is the best show Netflix has ever made and 2019 can't come soon enough.

PeterVenkman said:
Really great first season. We binged it in three nights, so the pacing never felt off to me. Holden's character was so fucking difficult to watch, but by the end of it we had pretty much settled on

him having peered too far into the void. He's got sociopathic tendencies all season, and then the last few episodes (interaction with the girlfriend, FBI interrogation, fuckin flying out to visit Ed Kemper!?) he goes deep end. It was so satisfying seeing him break down and actually realize he'd lost it.

This was my take as well.From the begining I thought that he'd turn out to be

a sociopath.

FullMetalTech · Oct 26, 2017

I only got to episode 5 so far but its very good.

Sloane · Oct 26, 2017

I'm still watching it, but so far it's the first Netflix show I really like. Acting and writing is a little off at times, especially in the pilot, but it's pretty compelling otherwise. Feels like Masters of Sex, just with serial killers. Or something.

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

Altazor said:
Bill Tench is a fucking godsend of a character.

Bill is the only reason I could get through certain Holden scenes. That and Wendy - knowing either one of them was going to knock Holden the fuck down for some stupid shit was a great payoff.

Pacote · Oct 26, 2017

PeterVenkman said:
Bill is the only reason I could get through certain Holden scenes. That and Wendy - knowing either one of them was going to knock Holden the fuck down for some stupid shit was a great payoff.

I though its great how you can really see hes kind of stupid or naive at times but learns from Bill from time to time.

kaospilot · Oct 26, 2017

A few of my friends are super hyped about this show. I really need to watch it but haven't had time yet, definitely will this weekend though.

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

Pacote said:
I though its great how you can really see hes kind of stupid or naive at times but learns from Bill from time to time.

Oh yeah. Being from the Midwest myself, I could feel my skin crawl when Holden would talk during road school. Like I just felt that he was overstepping, or out of his depth. He had no chill sometimes.

Enduin · Oct 26, 2017

Really loved this show. Some of the acting was iffy with regard to Holden and especially Debbie who felt super stiff and just unnatural. But the premise and everything was enthralling and it had a good overarching narrative for the most part. Bill and Wendy were fantastic and deserved more screen time than they got. Kemper was just outstanding and so unsettling, as were Brudos and Speck.

One thing I was confused by was the random scenes of Dennis Rader. I immediately was thrown off by of how that would even pay off and or even relate to the FBI, but then nothing even happened at all.

Title of the show is also really bad. It's just goofy sounding and try hard. Not sure of a better alternative, but Mindhunter is not it.

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

Enduin said:
One thing I was confused by was the random scenes of Dennis Rader. I immediately was thrown off by of how that would even pay off and or even relate to the FBI, but then nothing even happened at all.

It's the long game. I doubt it even pays of in S2, maybe not even S3 given how slow time is moving. But it complemented their early research nicely.

bgbball31 · Oct 26, 2017

darkness said:
The spoiler button was hidden on mobile under another button, heh.

Anyway, I wanted to say that season 2

is likely going to focus on the ADT guy, who is the famous BTK killer, so it should be interesting.

The thing is, I'm not sure it will. That was such a long case, I could see them going with the cold open for another season and REALLY introducing it sometime later. But who knows.

plagiarize · Oct 26, 2017

The lady and I have only watched the first three episodes so far (we don't do the binge thing!) but I think it's one of the best things I've seen on TV recently other than Season 3 of Twin Peaks. It's Hannibal levels of good (and obviously very similar subject matter) and feels like a fantastic replacement for that show. I'm glad Fincher is more involved and that montage of road school in episode 2 blew me away for a TV show. We're going to watch episode 4 tonight. Plus it looks fantastic in HDR on our new TV which doesn't hurt!

Smokeymicpot · Oct 26, 2017

bgbball31 said:
The thing is, I'm not sure it will. That was such a long case, I could see them going with the cold open for another season and REALLY introducing it sometime later. But who knows.

Only thing is

That was a real case. So I don't see them fully looking into especially since he won't be caught till 2005 I think.

Deranged Hermit · Oct 26, 2017

darkness said:
The spoiler button was hidden on mobile under another button, heh.

Anyway, I wanted to say that season 2

is likely going to focus on the ADT guy, who is the famous BTK killer, so it should be interesting.

Actually they've already said that

season 2 will focus on the Atlanta child murders. BTK is a thread that will probably continue throughout the entire show as he won't be caught for several years.

Ebullientprism · Oct 26, 2017

To me the star of the show was the guy who played Kemper. Every scene he was was fantastic. And the end had me legit holding my breath.

I still feel like this lacks something. I dont know what though, maybe an overarching killer.

access tv · Oct 26, 2017

Really enjoyed this show—just finished. I feel it's got a great mix of other detective/cop show elements that really hooked me, and the Holden/Tensch relationship is fun to watch.

And yes, Kemper is fantastic.

Noob · Oct 26, 2017

A lot of people said its a great show, but I guess it's just not my type of show... I got real bored. :/

Bluebot · Oct 26, 2017

I loved the show. I finished the show, pulled out my Kindle and bought the book.

Deleted member 268 · Oct 26, 2017

Bill carries this show.

Holden is a creep. I don't know if I could watch it with just him in the lead.

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

Ebullientprism said:
I still feel like this lacks something. I dont know what though, maybe an overarching killer.

IMO this could help, but it could also hurt the show. They've really established S1 as a show about peering into the void; it's more about how this methodology came about and really studying it as opposed to solving actual cases (which, as we've seen, is hard for Holden to deal with). If they introduce an overarching killer the show might lose some of what makes it so unique among a crowded field of crime drama.

They've earned enough good will IMO with S1 that I'm willing to take the gamble if they go that route.

MaskedNdi · Oct 26, 2017

I bounced off this at about the 35-minute point; I really hated the dialogue at the bar. Would it be worth picking it back up and trying it again, or that pretty indicative of the show as a whole?

Altazor · Oct 26, 2017

if anything, I thought the relationship aspect between Holden and Debbie was the weakest part of the show. I'd say it gets better once they start delving into talking to the murderers.

PeterVenkman · Oct 26, 2017

MaskedNdi said:
I bounced off this at about the 35-minute point; I really hated the dialogue at the bar. Would it be worth picking it back up and trying it again, or that pretty indicative of the show as a whole?

I would power through until you've at least met Bill, possibly Wendy. Holden is purposefully insufferable at times, and these two characters are amazing and keep him in check. By the end of ep 2 you'd probably have a better sense if it was for you or not.

MaskedNdi · Oct 26, 2017

PeterVenkman said:
I would power through until you've at least met Bill, possibly Wendy. Holden is purposefully insufferable at times, and these two characters are amazing and keep him in check. By the end of ep 2 you'd probably have a better sense if it was for you or not.

Thanks! I'll give it another go this weekend. I had initially written it off, but I've seen a lot of positive feedback for the show lately. Hopefully I'll warm up to it once those characters are introduced.

dynamitejim · Oct 26, 2017

I love seeing Anna Torv again, we need more of her!

I didn't like how Holden's ego started getting overinflated by the end, hopefully he'll come back down to Earth in Season 2 after the scare in the last episode.

Sloane · Oct 26, 2017

MaskedNdi said:
I bounced off this at about the 35-minute point; I really hated the dialogue at the bar. Would it be worth picking it back up and trying it again, or that pretty indicative of the show as a whole?

That meet cute was by far the worst scene I have seen so far, so, yeah, continue!

Batatina · Oct 26, 2017

Finished this yesterday. I liked it but it's ultimately a bit unsatisfying. Hope a possible season 2 gives the payoff I think the story needs.

xxracerxx · Oct 26, 2017

Up to the 8th episode and my wife and I are loving it.

Snowden · Oct 26, 2017

I'm loving the show, up to episode 6, but Holden comes off so fake in the way he talks. I'm not sure if it's just the actor or if there's going to some twist where he's a serial killer but he's really giving me weird vibes.

Pacote · Oct 26, 2017

Snowden said:
I'm loving the show, up to episode 6, but Holden comes off so fake in the way he talks. I'm not sure if it's just the actor or if there's going to some twist where he's a serial killer but he's really giving me weird vibes.

Being a David Fincher show, I really think theres something really fishy going on with Holden...

Blugrass · Oct 26, 2017

On episode 3 and I'm diggin it so far. Fincher just has that touch of extreme quality on everything he puts out.

ROBOKITTYZILLA · Oct 26, 2017

I'm 4 episodes in and really liking it so far. The two main characters have good chemistry.

Spiritual_Chaos · Oct 26, 2017

I was surprised with Fincher directing the beginning and the end of the season, that I enjoyed the middle the most.

Valkyr · Oct 26, 2017

Rumblebones said:
Bill carries this show.

Holden is a creep. I don't know if I could watch it with just him in the lead.

The dynamic between the 2 characters is one of my favorite aspects of the show. They kind of switch roles in who is the hard-ass over the course of the show.

liquidmetal14 · Oct 26, 2017

I have seen three episodes and I'm definitely a fan.

Can't wait to watch the rest of it and hope for another season.

Hank Hill · Oct 26, 2017

liquidmetal14 said:
I have seen three episodes and I'm definitely a fan.

Can't wait to watch the rest of it and hope for another season.

The next season will be released in 2019

blame space · Oct 26, 2017

man when he

she's going to break up with him on the porch before she even realizes it.

rough stuff.

Alpende · Oct 26, 2017

Hank Hill said:
The next season will be released in 2019

2019? Shit, that's a pretty long wait

Feran · Oct 26, 2017

Really enjoyed this, bit of a slow burn and I feel like I need to give it a second watch. The guy who played Kemper was fantastic.

Gray Matter · Oct 26, 2017

This is good, watched it over 3 Days. The show fell apart when they tried getting into the personal lives of the characters.

Still, I enjoyed it. Can't wait for next season.

Hank Hill · Oct 26, 2017

Alpende said:
2019? Shit, that's a pretty long wait

It took them 10 months to shoot this season and they worked 6 days a week, so I cannsee why they can't release it sooner.

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