Minecraft: Super Duper Graphics Pack Ceasing Development

Derktron

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Don’t worry, they’ll do it for next generation and charge us again to give us better graphics.
 

OneBadMutha

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Nov 2, 2017
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Funny you missed Minecraft Dungeons. :P
I did. My bad. But that’s meant to run on everything regardless.

My point is that they’ve gone all in on next gen. It’s like when a sports team is no longer in the playoff hunt at the trade deadline and gives away all their proven talent for draft picks and prospects. I think it’s the right strategy honestly.

Don’t worry, they’ll do it for next generation and charge us again to give us better graphics.
Actually Microsoft has been very fair in this area. Xbox gamers have already received free enhancements to a lot of older games.
 

Nazo

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Oct 25, 2017
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So you're telling me that Mojang/MS couldn't get a feature that was implemented by modders since 2012? This screams of bullshit to me.
 

MilesQ

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So you're telling me that Mojang/MS couldn't get a feature that was implemented by modders since 2012? This screams of bullshit to me.
Random guess, they tried to get it working on Switch/Mobile and couldn't do it so abandoned to the whole thing, which is a bit silly.
 

Stygr

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Oct 26, 2017
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So you're telling me that Mojang/MS couldn't get a feature that was implemented by modders since 2012? This screams of bullshit to me.
One thing is PC and another thing is PC + Mobile + NSW + Xbox One + PS4.

You should read the blogpost:

We realise this is disappointing to some of you – there was a lot of enthusiasm for Super Duper from inside and outside the studio – but unfortunately, we aren’t happy with how the pack performed across devices
 

Nazo

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Random guess, they tried to get it working on Switch/Mobile and couldn't do it so abandoned to the whole thing, which is a bit silly.
Sounds likely. Though if modders can get shaders running in fucking JAVA I don't know why they couldn't get it running on anything else.
 

Wumbo64

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Oct 27, 2017
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I had been waiting patiently for this, but I suppose the lack of press after the initial announcement should have been a red flag.

This is just another in a long line of Microsoft fumbles that absolutely baffles me. I don't know why it is proving so difficult for them to announce something, then actually get competent teams to follow through.

I hope they don't mismanage all their recent acquisitions into the ground.

Fortunately, they have been making lots of awesome moves in other parts of their business, so I am somewhat cooled on this.
 

Mecha Meister

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Oct 25, 2017
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this post smh...

OT: Im glad they didnt put out a subpar product. Looking forward to the tease in the announcement. Hopefully RT.
I wonder if a sequel to Minecraft will happen in the next 5 years, or will they just continue to update it?
I know it's an entirely different game but World of Warcraft has been running for almost 15 years now and has received various different expansions and countless updates, it has even had graphical improvements over the years.

Will Minecraft follow the same path, or will there be a new game that significantly pushes the technical capabilities of the game further? I suppose a Minecraft successor could be a strong selling point of a next generation Xbox.
 

Chucker

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is a bummer, my daughter and I had been looking forward to it since we saw it at E3.

She's probably forgotten all about it though.
 
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Obviously the console versions would have never come as close to what's possible on a high end PC these days, but MC has had fanmade lighting/texture packs for years that look light years ahead of vanilla, so it's kinda crazy that they couldn't come up with something that runs ok. I'm sure they have their reasons though.
My guess is something to do with MS next gen console and raytracing. Exclusive to MS and PC more than likely.
 

kiguel182

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Oct 31, 2017
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Man, bummer.

I wonder if the X couldn't run it or if there's something else like engine problems.
 
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I wonder if a sequel to Minecraft will happen in the next 5 years, or will they just continue to update it?
I know it's an entirely different game but World of Warcraft has been running for almost 15 years now and has received various different expansions and countless updates, it has even had graphical improvements over the years.

Will Minecraft follow the same path, or will there be a new game that significantly pushes the technical capabilities of the game further? I suppose a Minecraft successor could be a strong selling point of a next generation Xbox.
I hope they do a sequel. Dump everything that was built off of java and work on making their engine more scalable.
 

12Danny123

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So you're telling me that Mojang/MS couldn't get a feature that was implemented by modders since 2012? This screams of bullshit to me.
It was meant to be running on Switch and Mobile devices as well. That's where things would have got complicated.

There are millions of Android configurations, so it's inevitable that there are going to be issues.
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don’t know what their game plan is for Minecraft going forward. They can’t have another generation of ugly ass textures and lighting.

They need a sequel if they can’t put lipstick on this pig, or they need to split the Xbox 4 edition from cellphones.
 

elenarie

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Sounds likely. Though if modders can get shaders running in fucking JAVA I don't know why they couldn't get it running on anything else.
Welcome to feature parity. If we're playing the same game, your feelings might get hurt if your game looks worse than mine.

I guess.
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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Mojang kind of gives me Game Freak vibes. Lots of bad decision making that leads to technical bottlenecks.

They need to invest in cloud streaming for mobile devices or something, because this bottleneck is nuts.

The Xbox One should not be held back graphically by feature parity with dinky android phones.
 

Berordn

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Oct 26, 2017
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I couldn’t possibly be further removed from Minecraft but wasn’t this update going to launch on every platform that the game is available on? If so, I think it’s pretty easy to snuff out the prohibiting factors here...
Was this ever confirmed? I thought the "Super Duper Graphics Pack" was only ever stated to be a Win 10 and One X thing.
 

Jessie

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Was this ever confirmed? I thought the "Super Duper Graphics Pack" was only ever stated to be a Win 10 and One X thing.
There were two updates.

They were updating the lighting engine to look better (the sunset in the trailer).

And they were releasing a texture pack with 4K textures for the One X (look at the grain textures, for example).

Both were canceled.
 

ShinobiBk

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I don’t know what their game plan is for Minecraft going forward. They can’t have another generation of ugly ass textures and lighting.

They need a sequel if they can’t put lipstick on this pig, or they need to split the Xbox 4 edition from cellphones.
They can do just fine with the same graphics.
Minecraft has never looked good ever. Graphics have not and never will be the draw of the game and the recent resurgence in sales charts shows people like it just fine all these years later.
 

ninjabreadman

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Dec 17, 2017
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Don't hurt yourself with that reach
Let's not make fun of someone for calling the kettle black. Microsoft pushed this thing, they used it to try and leverage Sony into allowing cross-play, they said the X would be the best place for Minecraft, and now they can't even be bothered to release the texture pack, they just abandoned the whole project.
 

Viceratops

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Let's not make fun of someone for calling the kettle black. Microsoft pushed this thing, they used it to try and leverage Sony into allowing cross-play, they said the X would be the best place for Minecraft, and now they can't even be bothered to release the texture pack, they just abandoned the whole project.
I forgot they tried to hardball Sony with that. Lol what a disaster.
 
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I have the feeling they feared people mocking the Xbox because it would struggle to run Minecraft (even if itsn't really that surprising if you push textures and shaders).
 

Jessie

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They can do just fine with the same graphics.
Minecraft has never looked good ever. Graphics have not and never will be the draw of the game and the recent resurgence in sales charts shows people like it just fine all these years later.
It’s resurging because of Java Edition. All of the streamers are using Java Edition.

Java Edition is great. It has mods, ray tracing, unlimited texture packs, etc.
 

ShinobiBk

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It’s resurging because of Java Edition. All of the streamers are using Java Edition.

Java Edition is great. It has mods, ray tracing, unlimited texture packs, etc.
Streamers use Java edition, yes, but Minecraft shooting up console sales charts show that it's not just the Java edition that is selling. Quite the contrary

This isn't me saying they shouldn't improve the textures on One X or Scarlett or whatever. They should add some visual flair but I don't think it needs to be as big a deal as what was initially planned. An upgraded texture pack would be fine
 

Metal Slugger

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So lying is the verbiage we are going with? Crazy to think Sony or Nintendo never once announced something that didn't come to be..... Oh wait
We didn't see one single solitary goddamned thing of this beyond the announcement trailer. For all we know it was just a bluff to flex the Xbonks. Same exact shit they did with Phantom Dust.

Microsoft made their own bed by over promising and not delivering again and again and again. This entire generation has been a smoky dumpster fire for them, and that's coming from someone who holds the OG and 360 as two of their favorite consoles of all time. They fucking lied with smoke and mirrors and Phil's half-hearted smiley t-shirt bullshit like e v e r y o t h e r t i m e . It's straight up lying at this point until they actually deliver on something and it's good.
 

WillyFive

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Oct 25, 2017
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Java Edition aka true Minecraft wins again.

Curious as to why they simply ceased development because it didn’t run well in all systems. I don’t think many would have complained if it was only available in PC and the upgraded consoles.
 

Pryme

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Let's not make fun of someone for calling the kettle black. Microsoft pushed this thing, they used it to try and leverage Sony into allowing cross-play, they said the X would be the best place for Minecraft, and now they can't even be bothered to release the texture pack, they just abandoned the whole project.
The bedrock project is WAY more than a texture pack. And cross play was the touted benefit of moving everyone to the same code base.
They've delivered on that front.