I get where Fanto is coming from. This is basically my argument for not wanting to ever kill Stu day 1
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Mini Mafia VI: Unboxing The Truth
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I don't even want to agree with Fanto but I can see where he's coming from here. It's not that active posters aren't on the table or that we're penalizing low activity, it's that all things equal active posters just contribute a lot more information. Yes, it's possible that the higher activity posters are scum and we're herding the wolves with the sheep. It's also very true that the most active people have to deal with the most scrutiny. If an active poster does something scummy day 1, I highly doubt the majority will stan for them.
My issue with this line of thinking is that town doesn't have the best track record on Day 1 targets. I think its dangerous to look at someone's activity and decide that they're worth keeping around or voting out based mainly on that. It's definitely a strategy to play for the mid/late game but I feel like it opens the door for even more mistakes
Yay, seems like things got a bit more interesting.
Alexem, I didn't mean to shut down your critic to meta arguments, it's just that it feels like a never ending debate, and both meta and counter-meta arguments get scrutinized every time, even from Spec.
To Fanto's question, If I had to investigate someone, that'd be Ketkat. She's normally pretty sharp and one of the players in this game that I'd be more scared of if she rolled mafia.
Would you mind explaining why? This doesn't even read like prodding attempts.
Fake edit: Oh no, Sparks, I hope you're ok soon!
Look buddy, you can't vote me just out of spite for my fantastic avatar.
No but seriously, one thing that stood out to me is the weird few votes on you pilling up so fast. That's easy to point at after you and Fanto already commented, but the rest of the talk seems interested in pretty common game debate about
a) Meta.
b) Voting out low/high activity.
c) Early votes.
That's like... every D1 ever, discounting weird and extremely rare early gambits. There's like only one debate missing that I don't even want to mention, you probably know what I'm talking about.
You're sounding like Zeke now.
Alexem, I didn't mean to shut down your critic to meta arguments, it's just that it feels like a never ending debate, and both meta and counter-meta arguments get scrutinized every time, even from Spec.
To Fanto's question, If I had to investigate someone, that'd be Ketkat. She's normally pretty sharp and one of the players in this game that I'd be more scared of if she rolled mafia.
Would you mind explaining why? This doesn't even read like prodding attempts.
Fake edit: Oh no, Sparks, I hope you're ok soon!
Look buddy, you can't vote me just out of spite for my fantastic avatar.
No but seriously, one thing that stood out to me is the weird few votes on you pilling up so fast. That's easy to point at after you and Fanto already commented, but the rest of the talk seems interested in pretty common game debate about
a) Meta.
b) Voting out low/high activity.
c) Early votes.
That's like... every D1 ever, discounting weird and extremely rare early gambits. There's like only one debate missing that I don't even want to mention, you probably know what I'm talking about.
You're sounding like Zeke now.
That's true, but then how would you like D1 to go down personally, inactivity and all?
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Lucky I'm still awake lol. Hope everything is okay Sparks <3
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I would say that it isn't just activity, but also adding in a quality > quantity stipulation. Like, if someone only makes 10 posts during a phase, but they are mostly all game related and sharing relevant opinions/thoughts and voting for people, then those are quality posts because it gives us good info on how they are seeing the game.
And yeah, I feel like it's kind of inevitable that Town is going to have a poor track record on D1, but I get where you are coming from with that. The Meta of how to go about things on D1 around here is pretty standardized, it would be fun to find ways to shake it up, but in a Mini game like this one I feel like it's just going to work like this most of the time, it's not like HvV2 lol.
Hope you're doing alright. Take care.
As for the current discussion on meta kills on low post count players, I'm typically fine with it in small games. They become a big liability pretty quickly, and considering how likely it is to lunch town on D1 anyway, D1 is typically the most opportune time to take care of them.
Uh. Now this looks a bit weird to me.
Would you be as kind as to point to the exact part(s) you liked?
Mostly just not knowing having much to say because it's day 1, and nothing was really happening. Seemed fair enough
so you liked the most obvious thing that literally anyone would say on day 1?
Played with them 2 maybe 3 times.
He's making it through night one damnit.
Look either, Vere is scum and he won't kill himself or scum are going the moral and correct thing and not kill Vere
I mean even with the meme-ing you seem really suspicious rn and the other people told me to vote for whoever is sus a few pages back!
Verelios has had a run of games recently where he keeps dying before day 2. The dumb joke is that I'm trying to keep Vere alive till at least day 2
i dont understand, can you explain in more detail.
use diagrams.
No, you're right, this is good. Tell me, what do you find sus about Chugg right now?
Why would you put this evil into the universe!?
Baby, I am the god damn town circle.
No, you're right, this is good. Tell me, what do you find sus about Chugg right now?
Idk how online mafia works so I'm just gonna wing it with how IRL mafia would work.
Proceeds to start off morally by saying that we all shouldn't "day 1 shitpost"
Proceeds to target someone based on their "fluffiness" and "subdued" approach, basically reading into nothing which makes it seem like Reki isn't scum yet he just wants to random lynch.
Then proceeds to shitpost and meme it out.
Convince me that he ain't the scum.
The Reki vote was a prod vote. I liked what I heard so I backed off. That's really all there is to it.
But you could've backed off to look less suspicious? Idk, I'm sticking with my vote for the night unless someone else will back you up. Idk how you play.
Less suspicious of what? Reki probably wasn't getting voted out today. If I was scum trying to get Reki killed, but didn't want to be tied to it I would of let the wagon pick up steam before I hopped off. Anyway, this is getting kind of WIFOMish so I'll leave it alone
I have played all LiS games except BTS, liked to loved them all so far.
I might well have the most experience of anyone here, at over seven years played.
So far have only really been pinged by Fantamos pushing onto Chuggs for posting some early reads, which at least was a discussion point and didn't come off forced to me at all. Then when a Chuggs wagon started they didn't join on, instead their defense of Chuggs was all about them being a known quantity that can contribute so would rather just lynch low posters, which is an easy cop out for scum on d1 to distance themselves from any blame.
so..nothing much more is being talk about i guess?
i initially placed this chiggs vote as a joke but between his kinda weirdness about it and the sort of but not but still sorta defense from Fanto it will be interesting at least to see how he flips. So i think im gonna keep it there.
The only thing that really pushes me against it is how much of a sudden train there was on him around the mid point there, but then i have to wonder if scum would just launch themselves like that this early in the game when things are pretty damn chill.
i initially placed this chiggs vote as a joke but between his kinda weirdness about it and the sort of but not but still sorta defense from Fanto it will be interesting at least to see how he flips. So i think im gonna keep it there.
The only thing that really pushes me against it is how much of a sudden train there was on him around the mid point there, but then i have to wonder if scum would just launch themselves like that this early in the game when things are pretty damn chill.
Hi all -- I have a couple of morning meetings coming up, so I'll be back with my thoughts afterwards.
For now, hope you feel better soon Funky Dude Sparks .
For now, hope you feel better soon Funky Dude Sparks .