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Miniature Gaming ERA - Modelling, Playing & Painting

StaffyManasse

StaffyManasse

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Oct 28, 2017
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Polioliolio I have found that if not shaken enough, Citadel washes tend to do dry out more glossy than they should. You did say you shook them though, so maybe the wash is just too old and the pigment has separated? I know Citadel pots are not exactly air proof either so...
 
Bradach

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Oct 28, 2017
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Polioliolio said:
I have a general question for you guys about washes.

I'm using citadel washes. So I painted a giant group of aliens in the game Jupiter Rescue.
I painted them purple.. I noticed after painting that a couple of them appeared shinier than the others and were a lighter shade of purple, despite using the same paint. I'm thinking these ones maybe have had more water in the brush or in the paint... Or possibly I didn't shake the paint up well enough for those ones? What do you think?? This is before using the wash, btw.

Anyway, I discovered when washing, that the wash barely stuck to these shiny lighter ones. It was as though they were water proof in a way, and the shade dried in the most horrible blotches... The others came out quite different with a much more even spread. Like I said, it's as though the wash wasn't sticking to the paint, the effect was something almost like droplets on a water proof material, or at least to some extent..

Was hoping someone with more experience could let me in on my error. I'm using vallejo paints and haven't painted in years (had a baby) so they just sat for the longest time, though I was sure I gave it a nice long shake... perhaps not? And again, could it have been paint that had more water in it? There may have been a few times when I rinsed the brush and lifted remaining paint from the palette.
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Could be the undercoat wasn't good in those areas. Your there an eurgh spray before you started with the base paint?
You probably shouldn't move on to washes until your base paints are correct. If you notice something wrong give it another thin coat before continuing
 
Jinaar

Jinaar

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Oct 27, 2017
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He-Merp Man is coming along nicely. Things I did differently on this one:
- Zenithal highlighting with an airbrush (Iwata Eclipse) (EDIT: Just primer colors: black, grey, white)
- Glazing. Glazed the shit out of it. I glazed until I puked. And then I glazed some more. When I was done, I glazed some more.
- Next is his sword. Groan, I want to be done with him.

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Twig

Twig

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Oct 25, 2017
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I got just what I needed for Christmas!

...a butt load more minis to paint...

Kharadron Overlords: starter set, Arkanaut Company, and Brokk Grungsonn.

Seraphon: Bastilladon and Terradon Riders.

MOST IMPORTANTLY the start of my Gloomspite Gitz army, that Moonclan goblin boy they released as part of the Malign Portents event thing. The preview they showed off a couple days ago... CHEF KISS. Also they're combining all the goblins under one roof now, mechanically, so I can grab that sick spider riding goblin one day.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/26/26th-dec-gloomspite-gitz-revealedgw-homepage-post-1/




...

It's actually been a while since I did any painting. Gonna try to start up again soon. Seriously hyped for these Gitz. Always loved me some Fantasy-Ass Mushrooms.

It only feels MARGINALLY less bad when my unpainted collection grows due to gifts instead of my own lack of self control. HA. HA. HA.

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Boat Times

Boat Times

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jinaar that not-he man looks amazing already!

Also, I don't play Age of Sigmar and mostly just buy GW models for my DnD game but man....those goblins have me tempted to buy an army and learn the game. They look AWESOME! At the very least I'm gonna pick up that hero model, he's just too cool.
 
Kharnete

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Oct 25, 2017
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I *need* one of those fanatics to use as the Goblin starplayer on Blood Bowl. So beautiful.

And talking on goblins/grots, I'm currently painting my WH Udnerworlds band, trying a zenital preshading with them. Still a lot of work to do, I've only painted the skin and still need some touches (and extra highlights on the squigs), but is amazing the results you get with such a simple technique.

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I wanted to get them done before 2019, not sure if I'll manage. Especiialy when I'm still undecided on what colour I'll use for the clothes XD. Yellow was my first idea, but it kinda scares me. Purple, orange or red would be the alternatives.
 
Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Must admit, I will miss the old troll models. They probably weren't the most detailed of things but they had a certain chartoony charm that the new models lack. That siad I do still like the new models and I could see myself getting a Trogherd army together if the rules sound fun.
 
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MyQuarters

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Oct 25, 2017
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A couple of you might remember that I got rid of my Orks and I was never going to touch them again.

But then I got Speed Freeks and the Deffkilla Wartrike for xmas

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StaffyManasse

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Mikeside seems like you still had some Ork spores left in your house, then!

Here is a Warlock I got as a present and painted for a "paint a Christmas present before new year" -challenge.

Edit: never mind. There is a bug that prevents from embedding from IG if there is a "-" on the address. :(
 
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Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nice He-man, he's fabulous. Like the colour choice too, vibrant enough to capture the cartoon nature of the character without being too garish. I'm painting the Noise Marine too soon although I have like 1000 points of Death Guard to finish off first and they are proving a mission.
 
Ohnonono

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Oct 29, 2017
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Holy Terra


Watch Master done! Also damn all these Grots. This year is mostly devoted to Deathwatch cause I want to get a full army painted... but at some point I will find some grots to paint.
 
Fubar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I bought Star Wars Legion yesterday, should be here in the next few days. It will be my first miniatures game, so I am excited for that. I have never painted anything this small but do paint on paper a fair amount.

Also have a built in opponent with my wife. She is excited to try the Rebels, so I of course get the glory of the Empire.
 
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welcome to the hobby, mate!
The links in the OP are great for beginners (and non-beginners) but there's an absolute tonne of painting help out there that I'm sure others will recommend!

Do you already have the brushes and paints, or an idea of what ones you want to go for?
 
Serule

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Oct 25, 2017
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The new Age of Sigmar stuff looks so great. They really got my interest last year with the back-to-back Aelf releases; those and the new Goblin stuff has me really wanting to wrap up my 40K stuff and start new Order and Destruction armies for AoS. Even the newer Stormcast figures and lore are a lot more interesting than what they launched with.
 
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I'm just very lucky that none of my friends want to play AoS or I'd be 3 armies deep right now, just like I am with 40k
 
Ohnonono

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Holy Terra
I currently have Death Guard, Stormcast, Flesh Eater Courts, Space Wolves, and Deathwatch... and Khorne Bloodbound...

Deathwatch are my focus but I swap back and forth from 40k to AOS pretty often.
 
Gareth

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had a go at 1st edition AoS, but I wasn't that into it at the time so it got sidelined. Tempted to get back into it now it's in 2nd edition and with those new Troggoths on the way...but 40K is eating my hobby time and money at the moment. Though if they ever do a proper matched play legal all-Gargants army, I'm sure I could find the cash somewhere!
 
Fubar

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Mikeside said:
welcome to the hobby, mate!
The links in the OP are great for beginners (and non-beginners) but there's an absolute tonne of painting help out there that I'm sure others will recommend!

Do you already have the brushes and paints, or an idea of what ones you want to go for?
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Well I have a bunch of brushes and paints for other stuff but definitely dont have anything for this specifically, no. Any recommendations on where to start?

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Rad! if you need help ask!
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Yeah I am sure i will be there quite a bit asking for help on things. For now I am just excited to get started.
 
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Fubar said:
Well I have a bunch of brushes and paints for other stuff but definitely dont have anything for this specifically, no. Any recommendations on where to start?



Yeah I am sure i will be there quite a bit asking for help on things. For now I am just excited to get started.
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I guess the best brushes to get depend on where you're actually based

I'd assume if you've been doing other painting that your brush care is already up to scratch so it's worth getting decentish brushes. I like Rosemary & Co and Winsor & Newton but people really vary. For beginner brushes I think Army Painter do OK!

As for paints you'll get a lot of people recommending Citadel (GW's own line), Army Painter and Vallejo.
You can't really go too wrong with any of those, and there are others worth looking into too. Really you're just looking for acrylic paint of whatever type you're comfortable with - just remember that whatever paints you go for you'll need to thin them to the consistency of skimmed milk & I'd recommend you shake the everloving crap out of them before you apply.

The only other thing to think about as a beginner really is primer - you'll want to prime your models before you paint them.
The best 2 methods are either with spray primer or an airbrush. Obviously an airbrush is a big investment (and a whole extra skill) so it's best to just start with some cans of spray primer.

People will tell you to get expensive primer, but really any acrylic primer will do but it's important to prepare the spray can first. Shake it up for a good minute, then leave it in some warm water for a few minutes - finally give it another good shake (for 2-3 minutes ideally - really shake the crap out of that thing) then apply in short sharp bursts where you strafe the model. There's a great tutorial on this on Luke's APS - the youtube channel I recommend in the OP.


All this sounds a bit overwhelming, but it's really quite simple. I'd say the best idea is to get some throwaway models and practice on them first! If you're in the UK let me know and I may have a couple I can send you
 
Fubar

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Mikeside said:
I guess the best brushes to get depend on where you're actually based

I'd assume if you've been doing other painting that your brush care is already up to scratch so it's worth getting decentish brushes. I like Rosemary & Co and Winsor & Newton but people really vary. For beginner brushes I think Army Painter do OK!

As for paints you'll get a lot of people recommending Citadel (GW's own line), Army Painter and Vallejo.
You can't really go too wrong with any of those, and there are others worth looking into too. Really you're just looking for acrylic paint of whatever type you're comfortable with - just remember that whatever paints you go for you'll need to thin them to the consistency of skimmed milk & I'd recommend you shake the everloving crap out of them before you apply.

The only other thing to think about as a beginner really is primer - you'll want to prime your models before you paint them.
The best 2 methods are either with spray primer or an airbrush. Obviously an airbrush is a big investment (and a whole extra skill) so it's best to just start with some cans of spray primer.

People will tell you to get expensive primer, but really any acrylic primer will do but it's important to prepare the spray can first. Shake it up for a good minute, then leave it in some warm water for a few minutes - finally give it another good shake (for 2-3 minutes ideally - really shake the crap out of that thing) then apply in short sharp bursts where you strafe the model. There's a great tutorial on this on Luke's APS - the youtube channel I recommend in the OP.


All this sounds a bit overwhelming, but it's really quite simple. I'd say the best idea is to get some throwaway models and practice on them first! If you're in the UK let me know and I may have a couple I can send you
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I'm in Minnesota, USA. I think I will stop by the local gaming shop and pick up some stuff today after work. I know they have paints and those DnD branded figures. And hell, I might actually use them for DnD someday. My buddies and i have just used Lego minifigures up until now.

I watched a few of the videos that are linked in OP last night, I dont think things would be too difficult. Hopefully.

Thanks for the help!
 
Serule

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I use Vallejo brush-on primer. I had a lot of problems with spray-on primer fuzzing up my miniatures.
 
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MyQuarters

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I've never got the knack of brush on primer - it never seems to go on smooth for me!
that being said I've never had an issue with spray primer so long as I treat the tin well - even the cheap £2 crap you get so I guess it's horses for courses




Fubar said:
I'm in Minnesota, USA. I think I will stop by the local gaming shop and pick up some stuff today after work. I know they have paints and those DnD branded figures. And hell, I might actually use them for DnD someday. My buddies and i have just used Lego minifigures up until now.

I watched a few of the videos that are linked in OP last night, I dont think things would be too difficult. Hopefully.

Thanks for the help!
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Another good source of a cheap mini - go to Games Workshop and say you'd like to get into painting. Don't tell them you're getting into Star Wars Legion, obviously, because they'll give you a little workshop for how to paint miniatures and you'll get a free space marine that you start painting on the day

Depends on the location obviously, but my local are a great resource for some basic advice and assistance
 
Percival Sparkletrout

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Oct 30, 2017
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Been a while since I shared any of the stuff I've been working on. I've mostly been painting Space Marine Heroes minis. Finally finished all of Squad Sevastus, minus decals. more interestingly though, I got my hands on Series 2.

This guy is the first one I've fully finished, Brother Sanyctus.



Also completed a team of Aggressors over Christmas Break.



Completed a black ops sniper from Anvil Industry that will stand in as a Primaris Marksman Specialist for Kill Team



And I made an eyeless Broodlord for a Genestealer Kill Team.



Outside of GW, I worked on some Mantic models. Namely a GCPS Mule and an old, now out of production female Enforcer on a monobike.





And most recently, last night I completed a random elf warcaster from Warmachine.

 
Twig

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I love these gobbos and I accidentally tripped and fell on the pre-order button. D:

Also, I really want them to do a wave of new seraphons.
 

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First mini post holidays. I'm hoping to get back to it after several weeks off.

This is the Siegebreaker from Zombicide Green Horde. I started off painting him one way, but ended up going an entirely different direction with him. He was quick and fun!

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Twig

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I've been attempting to catalog all my minis - knowing exactly what I have helps motivate me, usually - and I thought it'd take a night or two. But I have so many I just get exhausted. It's been a week. My living room has no floor space left.

Help!
 
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Twig said:
I've been attempting to catalog all my minis - knowing exactly what I have helps motivate me, usually - and I thought it'd take a night or two. But I have so many I just get exhausted. It's been a week. My living room has no floor space left.

Help!
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I'll send a courier over to lighten your load
 

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Decided to base this guy. In the game, he beelines directly towards siege engines on the board. He seems like a fromt line Abomination, so I tried to make him seem a bit more bad ass.

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Bradach

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Great idea with the arrows. Might do that with the Khorgorath I'm starting soon.
The stone looks excellent also
 
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the earlier post where you'd just painted him looks very nice, but the base and arrows really make that model pop - well done
 

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Bradach said:
Great idea with the arrows. Might do that with the Khorgorath I'm starting soon.
The stone looks excellent also
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The arrows were a pain in the ass. I used floral wire cut to size. The fletchings are cereal box cardboard glued on with super glue. The cardboard soaks up the super glue and dries hard. I made the fletchings extra large then clipped them with cutters once dry.
 

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Mikeside said:
the earlier post where you'd just painted him looks very nice, but the base and arrows really make that model pop - well done
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I really struggled between green or the more flesh tone of the artwork. Browns would have made him easier to associate with siege weapons, which is a gameplay plus. However, he just felt "orkish" to me and so I wanted him to be able to stand alongside the Green Horde miniatures a bit more. In the end, I decided to put pieces of broken siege equipment on his base is to help associate him with his special rules instead of using the brown color scheme. So, I was able to accomplish both of my goals with some creative basing.

My favortie thing is the hand of a crushed zombie reaching out of the rubble.
 
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