Not sure how excited you'll get Trout to go see the St. Louis Randy Ortons
The Mariners really shouldn't package Cano in any deal. That rumored return is not the best.
He's owed like 120 million until he's 41The Mariners really shouldn't package Cano in any deal. That rumored return is not the best.
If true, Ms win the trade IMO. Kelenic and McNeil are legit. Dunn is a decent prospect.
If true, Ms win the trade IMO. Kelenic and McNeil are legit. Dunn is a decent prospect.
I mean, if it weren't for the Syndergaard stuff, I would assume this is just a Giants-esque attempt at competing by finding the best available player from the 2013 All-Star roster.Between this Cano trade and potentially trading away Syndergaard, I don't understand what the Mets are doing.
in the rotation they won't, but they might be able to upgrade other areas, and they might not have faith his arm stays attached to his body so they might be trying to sell high.I mean, if it weren't for the Syndergaard stuff, I would assume this is just a Giants-esque attempt at competing by finding the best available player from the 2013 All-Star roster.
I just don't get why you'd trade Syndergaard though. They're not gonna get a better replacement.
That's okay. Neither do the Mets.Between this Cano trade and potentially trading away Syndergaard, I don't understand what the Mets are doing.
Between this Cano trade and potentially trading away Syndergaard, I don't understand what the Mets are doing.
Thor when healthy is an 8 win pitcher. You're not finding a replacement for that in the field barring a miracle.in the rotation they won't, but they might be able to upgrade other areas, and they might not have faith his arm stays attached to his body so they might be trying to sell high.
but alas, I might also be giving them far to much credit given how the other trade looks >.<:
Dunn is a nothing prospect, tops out at what Diaz is now so I'm not concerned losing him. Losing Kelenic? When we're about to trade Thor for more prospects? It's profoundly stupid, he's easily the Mets highest upside prospect. At this point I'm just thankful these idiots got a deal done without losing McNeil (for now). If they traded Kelenic AND him I'd lose my god damn mind. The skills are for real, it wasn't a fluke SSS, his skillset translates. Keep him and fucking start him.
Not when you're getting 4 years control of an elite reliever. You have to give up something.Isn't taking Cano suppose to ensure the Mets don't give up too much? That's the whole point of a salary dump?
Fucking Mets.
Not when you're getting 4 years control of an elite reliever. You have to give up something.
Edit:
If this is true, I actually like this deal for the Mets.
Very good? Nah.
It went from shit to slightly more palatable shit.
Caveat: This of course hinges on what other moves are made this offseason... If this is the big splash the organization is going to make this year then it's still shit. If Thor isn't traded it's still a 500 team at best right now, assuming Cano can perform anything like he has over the last few years, and if Cespedes is healthy.
You get back one of the best hitters in baseball that has at least 2 years of solid ~.300 baseball plus one of the best relievers in baseball for the next 4 years at an insanely reasonable contract. You're giving up Bruce and Swarzak. Kelenic hurts but you have to give up something of value to get back Diaz.
Cano is fresh off a suspension for PEDs and he'll be playing here until after 40. Can't say I have a lot of faith in him.
I don't really care about Dunn all that much, but Kelenic looked like a stud. My issue is very few relievers are consistently great... Shit, hardly any of them are (Miller?) so I am always hesitant about giving up too much or giving them a contract for longer than 3 years.
The money makes it more palatable only if the Mets are going to make more moves this offseason. I think this is going to go straight into the Wilponzi's pockets, but I guess time will tell.
Cano might have up 6war if he wasn't suspended. He still really good and you're getting him at only a $12 million aav (if true).
Cano might have up 6war if he wasn't suspended. He still really good and you're getting him at only a $12 million aav (if true).
For the first season or two maybe, but he's at the age where you have to start expecting serious decline unless he's a total outlier. It's not like you can just project him to be a 6 WAR player at 33/34/35.
Cano just turned 36 in October. So Mets on the hook for age 36-40. I'd say he has a year and a half of full Cano like production in him.It's not like you can just project him to be a 6 WAR player at 33/34/35.
Of course not. Projections have him putting up 10 war over the next 5 years, but at an aav of $12 million, he's worth that.For the first season or two maybe, but he's at the age where you have to start expecting serious decline unless he's a total outlier. It's not like you can just project him to be a 6 WAR player at 33/34/35.