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MMA-ERA |OT| Immigrant Mentality

Oct 27, 2017
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That was a good PPV. One of the better ones this year. May even be the best one thus far, but can't say with confidence. Think only one fight disappointed. Also not interested in Max going to 155 yet. Don't see him being able to offer anything to the likes of Khabib or Ferguson, and that's the kind of fights you'd have to arrange for a current champion. Rather than see him get his ass beat, I'd like him to stay and defend the title a few more times. Dude's only got 2 defences so not sure what's got into the Tomato's ass. He seems to have no issue making weight so let him actually build a legacy in the division he's competed in for so long. Moicano, Mendez, and Zombie are all fights I'd like to see in the future.


These be the facts.
Max ran through his division eliminating contenders while the Aldo-McGregor debacle was going on. He has already tied the win streak of Gsp, Jones and mighty mouse and would have been champ way earlier if not for the mcgregor era. Max already has every striking record out there, even if he has only defended twice. Belts are just props anyway. Lets get him into meaningful fights instead just throwing people at him because of “rankings “
 
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Syder
Oct 25, 2017
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Apparently. Her record and performances in the ufc are very mediocre. Her only notable win is exposing Rousey's awful striking. There just isn't much talent at 135, and she has lost to every step up in comp.
She'd have beaten de Randamie (who turned tail and ran as soon as Cyborg came calling) and became the first 2-Division Female Champion if it weren't for awful reffing, pretty decent track record for an 'average' fighter 🤷‍🤷‍🤷‍
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Max ran through his division eliminating contenders while the Aldo-McGregor debacle was going on. He has already tied the win streak of Gsp, Jones and mighty mouse and would have been champ way earlier if not for the mcgregor era. Max already has every striking record out there, even if he has only defended twice. Belts are just props anyway. Lets get him into meaningful fights instead just throwing people at him because of “rankings “
Fights against guys like Moicano, Mendez, Zombie etc. are meaningful. Holloway hasn't fought an elite wrestler yet and Mendez is right there. Cleaning out the old guard on his way up doesn't suddenly mean he should be looking at a different division when there are several interesting match-ups still remaining for him in his division. Even Edgar would be a good fight despite me thinking Holloway would win that.

Holloway has nothing to offer the top lightweight fighters at the moment and that's who he'd have to face if they were to put him in there with them. Khabib would absolutely maul the dude. Ferguson is bigger, adept to pressure fighting, and has a significant reach advantage. This would go poorly for him too. Like about the only interesting match-up at lightweight for him between the top contenders would probably be Conor due to their history, and frankly, I don't see Holloway winning that either. His style is pretty perfect for Conor even now. And Conor has more interesting fights than a rematch with Holloway.

The dude is 27. Before they start looking at "super fights", some of which he'd have no business fighting in the first place, he should clear out the fighters in his division.
 
Mar 17, 2018
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She'd have beaten de Randamie (who turned tail and ran as soon as Cyborg came calling) and became the first 2-Division Female Champion if it weren't for awful reffing, pretty decent track record for an 'average' fighter 🤷‍🤷‍🤷‍
She very clearly lost to GDR because she didn't actually start fighting till the 4th or 5th. Had nothing to do with the reffing. She also struggled with Bethe until she landed that head kick.
 
Jul 24, 2018
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Fights against guys like Moicano, Mendez, Zombie etc. are meaningful. Holloway hasn't fought an elite wrestler yet and Mendez is right there. Cleaning out the old guard on his way up doesn't suddenly mean he should be looking at a different division when there are several interesting match-ups still remaining for him in his division. Even Edgar would be a good fight despite me thinking Holloway would win that.

Holloway has nothing to offer the top lightweight fighters at the moment and that's who he'd have to face if they were to put him in there with them. Khabib would absolutely maul the dude. Ferguson is bigger, adept to pressure fighting, and has a significant reach advantage. This would go poorly for him too. Like about the only interesting match-up at lightweight for him between the top contenders would probably be Conor due to their history, and frankly, I don't see Holloway winning that either. His style is pretty perfect for Conor even now. And Conor has more interesting fights than a rematch with Holloway.

The dude is 27. Before they start looking at "super fights", some of which he'd have no business fighting in the first place, he should clear out the fighters in his division.
If you don’t want to get on the blessed express that’s on you fam. It is what it is.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Holloway is/was amazing. He's like a more talented and aggressive Diaz brother without the holes. I'm still wary of his ground game as we haven't seen it really tested. He got tooled by an injured Conor but that was ages ago. Not really interested in seeing him destroy Mendes. Frankie would also get absolutely mauled imo. I think jumping into the cage with Khabib at this point in time is a mistake but I'm all for it. Tony even better. For some strange reason, I see Holloway x McGregor II becoming a reality in 2019.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I really wish grapplers would grapple more, you know, play to their strengths.
I was waiting for some Ortega ground game though to be fair Holloway has great defense.

Idk why this seems to be an ongoing problem for some really great grapplers.
Rousey completely tossed out her judo for some god forsaken reason and got stomped.
Maia has shit for stand up but decides it's good enough and gets turned into a punching bag.
Ortega thinks he can stand with Holloway instead of putting that effort into getting the fight to the ground.
Even GSP started getting beat up when he tried to strike more, but he was able to edge out some close decisions.

Khabib better stick to wrestling.

That was awesome when Holloway turned it up in the 4th round. Holy shit he has cardio for days. I thought the ref might step in for a standing tko.
 
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Syder
Oct 25, 2017
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The only way Ortega has a chance at beating Holloway right now is if they’re wearing gis

Ortega should get himself over to AKA and beg DC and Khabib to coach him, evolve his wrestling and dirty boxing/clinching. He’s a big dude at FW, his goal should be to stun opponents and take them down/push them into the fence. His only plan for getting Max down seemed to be to out-strike him which was deluded at best.
 
Jul 24, 2018
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The only way Ortega has a chance at beating Holloway right now is if they’re wearing gis

Ortega should get himself over to AKA and beg DC and Khabib to coach him, evolve his wrestling and dirty boxing/clinching. He’s a big dude at FW, his goal should be to stun opponents and take them down/push them into the fence. His only plan for getting Max down seemed to be to out-strike him which was deluded at best.
I think he really believed he could catch him or out-strike him. Maybe KO’ing Frankie went to his head.