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- Thread starter PhantomKnight
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Considering the kind of stuff that gets censored for Jojo's bizarre adventure it's not that surprising. They couldnt even show Jotaro smoking lol.
Just caught the episode. I do agree I think they should have spent more time showing Mob breaking under the strain of being used and abused by everyone around him. It felt rushed and probably robbed the episode or arc of some of its emotional heft. Though I feel the anime has done a great job building up to this moment itself so I do think it was effective overall seeing Mob really grow.
That all said, HOLY FUCK that might be one of the best looking episodes of TV anime I have ever seen. Bones absolutely knocked this out of the park and into the next state over. The entire second half was an absolute visual feast that just kept topping itself to the point I had to pause the episode and just kind of take a breather. That part was pretty intense and visually crazy in the manga but the anime just went and took it to a new level.
That all said, HOLY FUCK that might be one of the best looking episodes of TV anime I have ever seen. Bones absolutely knocked this out of the park and into the next state over. The entire second half was an absolute visual feast that just kept topping itself to the point I had to pause the episode and just kind of take a breather. That part was pretty intense and visually crazy in the manga but the anime just went and took it to a new level.
That was a hell of an episode.
Speaking as an anime-only viewer, I didn't get the feeling that stuff was rushed while watching it. The only time I've ever felt that with this series was maybe with Episode 6 or 7 (I forget which) in Season 1. I think spending the first half of the episode in the illusion and the second half of the episode on the confrontation worked, and I still understood all of the themes this arc was going for. I'm also wondering if it could be a case where subtitles are a factor. The episode has a lot of visual information going on, and following it alongside subtitles can feel like a lot. However, in these types of episodes I think that issue tends to be mitigated when watching it dubbed instead of subbed.
I guess my point is that it feels a bit weird to be in a situation where I think the episode I just watched was paced alright while so many manga readers are saying it's rushed. Usually in a situation like this, I would feel rushed pacing while watching that sort of episode. In this case though, I just have everyone else's word to go off of.
Speaking as an anime-only viewer, I didn't get the feeling that stuff was rushed while watching it. The only time I've ever felt that with this series was maybe with Episode 6 or 7 (I forget which) in Season 1. I think spending the first half of the episode in the illusion and the second half of the episode on the confrontation worked, and I still understood all of the themes this arc was going for. I'm also wondering if it could be a case where subtitles are a factor. The episode has a lot of visual information going on, and following it alongside subtitles can feel like a lot. However, in these types of episodes I think that issue tends to be mitigated when watching it dubbed instead of subbed.
I guess my point is that it feels a bit weird to be in a situation where I think the episode I just watched was paced alright while so many manga readers are saying it's rushed. Usually in a situation like this, I would feel rushed pacing while watching that sort of episode. In this case though, I just have everyone else's word to go off of.
It was paced right for a 22 and a half minute episode of television, but having read the manga already I wish they could have made this a 45 minute special or something.
I feel it still works because the anime realized a lot of the scenes from the manga so well that lead up to this episode. It follows the manga pretty closely but things feel a lot more like simple mostly disconnected vignettes leading up to the confrontation with Mogami in the manga where the anime made it a lot more cohesive and better capture the growing stress on Mob.
Finally watched it. I had skimmed through this arc before the episode aired just as a refresher and the anime did skip some things during Mob's 6 months of torture. I had it it in my head this would've been a 3 episode arc with this episode being the trauma which ends with Mob powering up. Then the next episode would be the fight and conclusion.
I thought that stuff was amazing at the time I read it, but man, it'd be a really depressing episode. But I understand why Bones cut it and why people are disappointed with it being cut. Also I think Bones did a good job of using episodes 1-4 to hint at Mob's emotional arc and him trying to change himself. Personally, I'm glad they didn't animate the cat stuff (RIP manga cat.)
That out the way.... Holy hell the back half of the episode was visually amazing! Not even halfway through the season and Bones is just flexing because they can.
Onto the next.... Reigen fans in for a treat.
I thought that stuff was amazing at the time I read it, but man, it'd be a really depressing episode. But I understand why Bones cut it and why people are disappointed with it being cut. Also I think Bones did a good job of using episodes 1-4 to hint at Mob's emotional arc and him trying to change himself. Personally, I'm glad they didn't animate the cat stuff (RIP manga cat.)
That out the way.... Holy hell the back half of the episode was visually amazing! Not even halfway through the season and Bones is just flexing because they can.
Onto the next.... Reigen fans in for a treat.
Thinking about the couple of trailers and promos released they've barely released any footage from the second half of the season. Probably a couple of random shots but most of them were from these first 5 episodes. I wonder what they have in store for us considering we're not even at the half way point of the season.
That's an interesting point. In hindsight, I think it would be possible to consider everything from this season's first or second episode up to its fifth episode as a single arc, with this episode feeling like the culmination of pretty much everything from this season so far. It very much felt like a season finale to me despite only being 5 episodes into the season.
Just watched it and I agree with the opinions here. The episode was really really good, but it seemed rushed. I think it would've been more impactful if the bullying carried longer, and it would've been much more effective in carrying out how he just dropped his principles.
They should've saved the actual battle for the next episode. Everything else was perfect.
100% Mob is 1000% keeping it real, holy fuck. One of the best fights out there, just an amazing spectacle of rainbow sparkles and spirit exorcism. It felt a bit rushed, but what can we do. If I understand there is not a lot of content left, so hopefully the last 100% will be on par or even better than this. I need more of Eldritch Horror ???% Mob.
I thought it felt just a little rushed, but not enough to really bother me. Like, another 15-20 seconds of Mob getting beaten up would have helped, but beyond that more suffering would have just made me feel uncomfortable.
I forgot to mention I felt that way too.
When the mid-episode bump aired my reaction was basically "Wait the bump wasn't earlier? I'm only halfway through the episode?"
I don't want to say too much as a manga reader but we're not even at the halfway point of the season. If I had to guess the last half of the season is going to be focusing fully on the next big arc which should be absolutely amazing considering how good the first 5 episodes have looked.
I have on reason as to see why not. The manga is strong throughout and the upcoming stuff is great. It's also a lot grander in scale with a variety of characters, new and old.
Holy fuck...
does this show just nonchalantly throws at you a series finale like its a bi-weekly thing?
does this show just nonchalantly throws at you a series finale like its a bi-weekly thing?
I was going to wait for the show to be done so I could binge the whole thing but I might just have to jump into this season now.
I'm anime only, but even then, it didn't feel as if Mob was stuck in that world for 6 months.
It's not a big complaint, since the last half of the episode is amazing and more than makes up for it, but I do feel the pacing of the first half was off. Enough for me to check out the manga version of just this arc.
Wow that was incredible.
Not sure I agree with people saying it should have been two episodes though. Did feel a bit fast but having the entire episode dedicated to showing mob's life in the world, eh i donno seems like overkill. But I'll probably read those chapters from the manga just to fill in the scenes that we missed and see if I change my mind.
Not sure I agree with people saying it should have been two episodes though. Did feel a bit fast but having the entire episode dedicated to showing mob's life in the world, eh i donno seems like overkill. But I'll probably read those chapters from the manga just to fill in the scenes that we missed and see if I change my mind.
This episode was absolutely insane visually and thematically.
I should post in here more often.
This is only the fifth episode of season 2 and we already have:
-Unique, flowing storyboarding
- Beautiful use of color theory and grey for the city
- Widescreen to make everything feel more cinematic.
- Highly detailed movement that you would expect from the season finale
- Framing and timing in the character acting that embodies the tone the series is trying to set
I could go on and on.
I think this episode, along with Episode 5 and 12 from season 1, best encapsulates why I love Mob Psycho 100.
I should post in here more often.
This is only the fifth episode of season 2 and we already have:
-Unique, flowing storyboarding
- Beautiful use of color theory and grey for the city
- Widescreen to make everything feel more cinematic.
- Highly detailed movement that you would expect from the season finale
- Framing and timing in the character acting that embodies the tone the series is trying to set
I could go on and on.
I think this episode, along with Episode 5 and 12 from season 1, best encapsulates why I love Mob Psycho 100.
I'm really disappointed with how they handled the Mogami arc. It's my favorite story arc in the manga, and it just felt way too rushed and gutted of its impact. I was really looking forward to it, hoping it'd make me damn cry, but emotionally I didn't feel much of anything while watching today's episode. They cut a bunch of stuff and they didn't give any of it time to breath and sink in before the next story beat was happening. The episode really should have been two -- first be focused on Mob struggling through all that up until Dimple, and second being the fight and resolution. Honestly, I think the first Mogami episode should have been two, as well.
I'm kinda feeling this way about the entire season so far. Emi's story is also one of my favorites and that, too, felt rushed. It's bumming me out cuz MP100 is legit my favorite series of all time and I wanted so much for this season. :((
Although story telling aside, I do think this is the most beautiful, most amazing, most stunning episode visually I have ever seen in an anime. It was absolutely breath taking to watch. Like... god damn. That bit at the end of the fight left me in awe.
I'm kinda feeling this way about the entire season so far. Emi's story is also one of my favorites and that, too, felt rushed. It's bumming me out cuz MP100 is legit my favorite series of all time and I wanted so much for this season. :((
Although story telling aside, I do think this is the most beautiful, most amazing, most stunning episode visually I have ever seen in an anime. It was absolutely breath taking to watch. Like... god damn. That bit at the end of the fight left me in awe.
Man, this last episode was so good. Easily the best looking episode since Fate/Apocrypha 22, which makes sense as I've read that was by the same episode director. Even the non-flashy shots in the first part looked so good, as did the character acting at the end of the episode. Bones really brought everything they have for this episode.
In terms of the pacing, as an anime only viewer, I actually appreciate that the first part was as short as it was. I was actually worried last week from the previews that they were going to drag it out for waaay too long, but in the end I shouldn't have doubted the anime team.
As for the reasoning why I feel that way, it probably needs some context first. First of all, bullying is bad, obviously. You'd think I wouldn't need to explicitly state this, but given some of the things I've seen on this board it probably needs stating. And it's also very bad in Japan. Like, really bad. Suicide is the most common cause of death for Japanese kids (worldwide it's the third most common). Actual numbers for it vary by source, but some of them say it's the most common cause of death for children as young as 10 years old. Imagine a 10 year old kid losing all hope in life and seeing no other way forward. And while bullying isn't the only reason for this, there is a strong statistical correlation between it and suicidal thoughts (this also extends worldwide, obviously). The true extent of it is kind of hard to measure, since most research done on it is kind of flawed, but just one look at the correlation graph in the BBC and CNN articles should already show something is going on.
With that out of the way, I find the way most media treats bullying to be utter garbage. And anime or Japanese media in general is no exception. It's super common in anime, and is usually depicted as being not really harmful or even as being beneficial. I just played a Japanese/anime video game a week ago where a bully victim straight up thanked his bully for putting him in the hospital for 3 weeks. Like what? And none of the reviews I've read even mentioned this part. And this sort of sentiment is everywhere in anime, and usually gets brushed aside by some fans as just "kids being kids" or kids needing to "man up".
Now obviously, this isn't the case for Mob Psycho in the slightest. Mob Psycho is actually a good show. It's just me ranting about how bad most anime does it. But Mob does show the second problem I have with it: it runs the risk of feeling kind of exploitative. Of course watching someone get bullied makes you feel sad. How couldn't it. But it's just such a heavy, important, and very often ignored topic that I think using it for shock value is just plain irresponsible at best. Particularly when this very same issue is probably effecting a large portion of the viewer-base. Yes, Mob Psycho is a seinen manga, but it would be silly to suggest that kids aren't watching it. Even for example the two news articles linked above have a link to a suicide prevention phone line. And they aren't even close to what is portrayed here, even in its shorter form. It's just the responsible thing to do.
For this episode, I think it managed to find just the right balance of getting the point across without actually feeling too exploitative. But I'm not sure I would feel the same way if this was dragged on for longer. Yes, it wasn't used just for shock value, but also for character development. But in terms of the message and character development, I feel like it got its point across just fine. I already know how painful bullying is, and stretching it out for longer would add absolutely nothing to my understanding of Mob and the situation he finds himself in. All it would do is make me feel angry and sad. Especially if there was a week or more of waiting between the suffering and the catharsis (the fact that the episode ends on a positive note is actually very important to me). And while obviously getting an emotional response is something we should value in art, I just don't think there's that much merit to it in this case. As I said above, of course watching someone get bullied makes you feel sad.
For example, I think the episode got most of this across just fine to me as an anime only watcher. Maybe not the whole "Mogami isn't actually cruel or malicious" bit, because that seems like trying to redeem him a bit too much. He came across as super cruel here, but also as a person who truly believes that cruelty is correct and the right thing to do. But I think that was the idea anyway, and I can understand why he feels that way, which is the important part. Everything else I feel like still worked fine. A lot of it also comes down to great direction. The scene with Mob in the river and his brother just walking by on the bridge is one such example: it got so much stuff across in just a couple of seconds. And I'm actually interested if this symbolism was present in the manga too, or if its something the anime added. And of course, the scene also immediatelly contrasted with the bullying scene in the previous (or was it some episodes back?) episode that played out similarly, but Mob got saved from it not by his psychic powers, but by the people that care about him. And not even his psychic brother, but by the totally human body improvement club.
But then again, I never was a person that actually enjoyed deliberately depressing, sad and painful media. I just don't see much point, to be honest.
In terms of the pacing, as an anime only viewer, I actually appreciate that the first part was as short as it was. I was actually worried last week from the previews that they were going to drag it out for waaay too long, but in the end I shouldn't have doubted the anime team.
As for the reasoning why I feel that way, it probably needs some context first. First of all, bullying is bad, obviously. You'd think I wouldn't need to explicitly state this, but given some of the things I've seen on this board it probably needs stating. And it's also very bad in Japan. Like, really bad. Suicide is the most common cause of death for Japanese kids (worldwide it's the third most common). Actual numbers for it vary by source, but some of them say it's the most common cause of death for children as young as 10 years old. Imagine a 10 year old kid losing all hope in life and seeing no other way forward. And while bullying isn't the only reason for this, there is a strong statistical correlation between it and suicidal thoughts (this also extends worldwide, obviously). The true extent of it is kind of hard to measure, since most research done on it is kind of flawed, but just one look at the correlation graph in the BBC and CNN articles should already show something is going on.
With that out of the way, I find the way most media treats bullying to be utter garbage. And anime or Japanese media in general is no exception. It's super common in anime, and is usually depicted as being not really harmful or even as being beneficial. I just played a Japanese/anime video game a week ago where a bully victim straight up thanked his bully for putting him in the hospital for 3 weeks. Like what? And none of the reviews I've read even mentioned this part. And this sort of sentiment is everywhere in anime, and usually gets brushed aside by some fans as just "kids being kids" or kids needing to "man up".
Now obviously, this isn't the case for Mob Psycho in the slightest. Mob Psycho is actually a good show. It's just me ranting about how bad most anime does it. But Mob does show the second problem I have with it: it runs the risk of feeling kind of exploitative. Of course watching someone get bullied makes you feel sad. How couldn't it. But it's just such a heavy, important, and very often ignored topic that I think using it for shock value is just plain irresponsible at best. Particularly when this very same issue is probably effecting a large portion of the viewer-base. Yes, Mob Psycho is a seinen manga, but it would be silly to suggest that kids aren't watching it. Even for example the two news articles linked above have a link to a suicide prevention phone line. And they aren't even close to what is portrayed here, even in its shorter form. It's just the responsible thing to do.
For this episode, I think it managed to find just the right balance of getting the point across without actually feeling too exploitative. But I'm not sure I would feel the same way if this was dragged on for longer. Yes, it wasn't used just for shock value, but also for character development. But in terms of the message and character development, I feel like it got its point across just fine. I already know how painful bullying is, and stretching it out for longer would add absolutely nothing to my understanding of Mob and the situation he finds himself in. All it would do is make me feel angry and sad. Especially if there was a week or more of waiting between the suffering and the catharsis (the fact that the episode ends on a positive note is actually very important to me). And while obviously getting an emotional response is something we should value in art, I just don't think there's that much merit to it in this case. As I said above, of course watching someone get bullied makes you feel sad.
For example, I think the episode got most of this across just fine to me as an anime only watcher. Maybe not the whole "Mogami isn't actually cruel or malicious" bit, because that seems like trying to redeem him a bit too much. He came across as super cruel here, but also as a person who truly believes that cruelty is correct and the right thing to do. But I think that was the idea anyway, and I can understand why he feels that way, which is the important part. Everything else I feel like still worked fine. A lot of it also comes down to great direction. The scene with Mob in the river and his brother just walking by on the bridge is one such example: it got so much stuff across in just a couple of seconds. And I'm actually interested if this symbolism was present in the manga too, or if its something the anime added. And of course, the scene also immediatelly contrasted with the bullying scene in the previous (or was it some episodes back?) episode that played out similarly, but Mob got saved from it not by his psychic powers, but by the people that care about him. And not even his psychic brother, but by the totally human body improvement club.
But then again, I never was a person that actually enjoyed deliberately depressing, sad and painful media. I just don't see much point, to be honest.
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Very powerful episode, but yeah upon reading the spoilers about the Manga. Definitely lost a lot of important details (wtf to a lot of it!). I would cut a bit on the action part but very enjoyable episode still.
This is an interesting perspective on the episode that I hadn't really thought of.
I also got the same impression on Mogami that you mentioned.
Just going to leave this here: https://spiritsandsuch.com/
Based on this kotaku article, https://kotaku.com/mob-psycho-100s-heroes-offer-spiritual-advice-through-a-1832340300 I assume Crunchyroll made it.
Based on this kotaku article, https://kotaku.com/mob-psycho-100s-heroes-offer-spiritual-advice-through-a-1832340300 I assume Crunchyroll made it.
Agreed, I really hope it's not rushed and get's the time it deserves.
Mob psycho is just amazing. It's just a pure joy to watch episodes of this show. Humor, drama, animation, fights, it has everything you want in an anime and more.
Episode 5 is a blast, and maybe it's better that I didn't read the manga before cause it seems many of you are somewhat disappointed.
Episode 5 is a blast, and maybe it's better that I didn't read the manga before cause it seems many of you are somewhat disappointed.
Damn that was some crazy animation. Bishonen Mob was unexpected and the return of the ????? persona. Wonder what Mogami meant when he mention the vessel.
Part of me says that yeah, it would be so painful to see a full episode of Mob getting continuously shat on, but at the same time I guess it would hammer in how much rougher his life could be and make the awakening even more rewarding.
Part of me says that yeah, it would be so painful to see a full episode of Mob getting continuously shat on, but at the same time I guess it would hammer in how much rougher his life could be and make the awakening even more rewarding.
As an anime-only guy, I did not get the impression at all that this story was rushed or that I was missing anything about the characters or their motivations. Anime and manga present information differently, and while it didn't adapt every scene, it got across the themes and ideas it needed to in exactly the amount of time it needed. I don't think including a cat being killed would have helped with the flow of the episode at all.
People aren't even asking for panel by panel adaption. The anime was never that to my knowledge. People are just pointing out that the pacing was off in the first half. Blink for second and you miss that Mob had been in that world for 6 months. Pacing and direction wise, you just never really feel the passing of time. You can point out where improvements could have been made and still like the finished product.