Galloway died five days later, on July 9.
More at the link:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/health/woman-dies-rescue-wont-take-her-cant-pay/index.html?utm_content=2018-07-31T14:33:11&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link
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Mom says medics didn't take daughter to hospital, saying she couldn't afford it
- Thread starter fluffydelusions
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Galloway died five days later, on July 9.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/health/woman-dies-rescue-wont-take-her-cant-pay/index.html?utm_content=2018-07-31T14:33:11&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link
Always strange how punishment is basically "paid vacation", goes for police officers as well.
How could you even see if they can afford it or not? Shouldn't it be standard to always take someone no matter the money? Because that is your job, its your duty to help people.
Yea, but this totally is a first world country, right. This is why I will vote democrat down the line without thought. Republicans let all of this happen because of big pharma and insurance companies need those extra pennies.
The problem is that our neon signs are just corporate logos.
We live in dystopia.
Maybe the fact that she died should be put in the OP since people don't want to read past it or click the sources.
Many Democrats especially NJ Dems like Booker would never backstab their big pharma donors.
Without further details, not necessarily. Could have been related to a chronic condition that EMT's or ambulance trauma care would have no effect on.
Let's "wait for all of the facts" but it's kinda obvious.
Why were fire rescue personnel sent out to respond to a medical call in the first place? Is that standard in Florida?
So not only did they fuck up on the job, they filed a false report. No one should take their word on anything in this situation.
It's not punishment. It's what happens while they investigate (and should be what happens).
I don't imagine the investigation will take long since there's a long paper trail. The punishment, assuming there isn't something huge we aren't being told, should probably be charges on top of firing.
And we've now moved onto the "Well, actually" part of the script.
Don't engage. Just look at his posts in here lol.
Our medical 'system' is grotesque. This woman is dead because our culture is too greedy to give a shit. Fuck the US.
Wow holy shit this is depressing. Work hard get your education get insurance and still get fucked over, even if these guys get fired there is no justice here her kids lost their mother and what looks like a positive role model for any family to have had.
The two pictures are so stereotypical American that it hurts... .The problem is that our neon signs are just corporate logos.
We live in dystopia.
The poles, the signs and everything, they don't even glow in the dark. If you look at Japan's entertainment district in Tokyo, etc. you see so many neon signs and it looks like those cool movies (Ghost in the Shell (Anime), etc.).
Well obviously judgemental, racism and hate of poor people as the reason for them to assume they have no money. My question was more from a personal viewpoint, as it is difficult to see how much money someone has just from looking. You can wear any clothes you want and still have millions in the bank (I would totally do that).
Seems fair, though they sometimes use it as punishment as well I believe. Can't back that up right now, just something I vaguely remember from all these police shooting threads.
My condolences to the family of the deceased. =(
I can't speak for Florida, but where I live fire dept is sent on all medical emergency calls. They are often closer (far more fire depts than hospitals), and fire fighters are trained paramedics. If you're having a medical emergency and the fire dept arrives, be thankful.
Continuing to not read, huh?
Dispatcher coded it as a stroke. Fire rescue arrived 12 minutes after dispatch. Instead of taking vitals and assessing her condition on site/en route to the hospital in an ambulance, they loaded her in a car for her to get herself to the hospital. The difference between 12 minutes and 25+ minutes after emergence of stroke symptoms is enormous, and that is evident in this case. Upon arrival at the hospital, she was assessed and air-transported to another facility but fell into a coma. She didn't recover.
She had just had a baby, and post-delivery blood clots are extremely common. She likely had a blood clot make it to her neck and cause a stroke. Immediate care could have and likely would have saved her life, if paramedics had listened to the circumstances while loading her in an ambulance and measured a few vitals. Simply administering a blood thinner to stop any further damage from lack of oxygen to the brain would have drastically improved her chances of survival.
But yeah you're right, the EMT's are completely not at fault for not doing their jobs. They were cited on THREE separate violations including falsifying the nature of the 911 call and not receiving a signed disclosure declining medical transport (there was no declination, the woman specifically asked for an ambulance). Nah it must've just been some chronic illness that JUST SO HAPPENED to take her life about an hour (onset of comatose state) after the medical personnel fuck-up.
We need to fight for universal healthcare come 2020. This has gone on long enough. Providing the Democrats get the House, Senate, and we have a Democratic president.
and we had idiots like sarah palin crying about "death panels" we already fucking had. Now the fucking medics of all people are playing gatekeeper to whether people live or die. This shit is literally killing us left and right in various ways and we have too many people hemming and hawing about it. Just fucking do it. Make UHC a thing. Its already as bad as it can get.
In most places I've lived in Fire Personal usually always come.
Yep this is illegal. Certified medics aren't allowed to refuse care even if a patient can't pay the bill.
That would be my bad, I don't click through to articles ever, so given the half assed OP omitting such vital details, I could only assume the woman lived, or it was related to something EMT's could not treat in any meaningful way. This was definitely on them, the failure to take vitals and properly assess the situation being the most egregious.
While I feel that this wonderful post is kinda wasted on the person you responded to, thanks for writing it. Great post.