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Mom says medics didn't take daughter to hospital, saying she couldn't afford it

Arttemis

Arttemis

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
6,221
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Let's "wait for all of the facts" but it's kinda obvious.

Why were fire rescue personnel sent out to respond to a medical call in the first place? Is that standard in Florida?
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Most (if not all?) fire departments, at least in FL, have ambulances inside. There are typically fire departments spread across cities/towns/counties and combining the two allow for an even distribution of emergency ambulances in greater frequency than hospitals.
 
StarStorm

StarStorm

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
7,600
CLaddyOnFire said:
Continuing to not read, huh?

Dispatcher coded it as a stroke. Fire rescue arrived 12 minutes after dispatch. Instead of taking vitals and assessing her condition on site/en route to the hospital in an ambulance, they loaded her in a car for her to get herself to the hospital. The difference between 12 minutes and 25+ minutes after emergence of stroke symptoms is enormous, and that is evident in this case. Upon arrival at the hospital, she was assessed and air-transported to another facility but fell into a coma. She didn't recover.

She had just had a baby, and post-delivery blood clots are extremely common. She likely had a blood clot make it to her neck and cause a stroke. Immediate care could have and likely would have saved her life, if paramedics had listened to the circumstances while loading her in an ambulance and measured a few vitals. Simply administering a blood thinner to stop any further damage from lack of oxygen to the brain would have drastically improved her chances of survival.

But yeah you're right, the EMT's are completely not at fault for not doing their jobs. They were cited on THREE separate violations including falsifying the nature of the 911 call and not receiving a signed disclosure declining medical transport (there was no declination, the woman specifically asked for an ambulance). Nah it must've just been some chronic illness that JUST SO HAPPENED to take her life about an hour (onset of comatose state) after the medical personnel fuck-up.
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This is an amazing post!
 

Deleted member 24907

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
5,354
Juste said:
Without further details, not necessarily. Could have been related to a chronic condition that EMT's or ambulance trauma care would have no effect on.
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It's almost like they could've taken her somewhere to find out if she did have a chronic condition. They're usually big buildings, lots of doctors, the name escapes me at the moment.
 
PandaShake

PandaShake

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,464
I have to side with the mother, the EMT statements don't seem to add up. They claim they couldn't take vitals because the mother ran away too quickly into grandma's car and drove off themselves? Both her condition and how she needed a lift to get down to the living room doesn't lend itself to that. There was that recent article where the injured didn't want bystanders to call EMS because they couldn't afford it, but this is a new one, damn.
 
KyleH

KyleH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
283
NYC
EMT here in a large urban 911 system.

Yes, based on the article, this crew was clearly derelict in the performance of their duties.
 
KyleH

KyleH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
283
NYC
Arttemis said:
Most (if not all?) fire departments, at least in FL, have ambulances inside. There are typically fire departments spread across cities/towns/counties and combining the two allow for an even distribution of emergency ambulances in greater frequency than hospitals.
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In Florida, yes, most EMS is fire-based. But throughout the country there are many different ways of delivering EMS - 3rd party provider (e.g. Austinor Boston), Hospital Based System (e.g. Atlanta), etc. Even when controlled by a Fire Department there are different systems - some where all of the EMS providers are firefighters (e.g. Chicago and Los Angeles) or the EMS providers are a separate service of the fire department (e.g. New York City).

I think this department is a system where all of the firefighters are also EMS providers.
 
UnpopularBlargh

UnpopularBlargh

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,206
PMS341 said:
The problem is that our neon signs are just corporate logos.

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We live in dystopia.
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Just a shitty and less shiny kind than usually portrayed in media.
 
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