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Mo'nique - Netflix Lowballed My Negotiations 'Cause I'm a Black Woman
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She started serious? I remember her from shitty comedies like three strikes and the near and dear "soul plane". You've got it backwards.
Maybe that was their high offer and they really felt she was worth 50k but didn't want to deal with her bullshit racism cries? Plan failed and they would have been better off giving somebody else an offer.
*gets blackballed for stupid shit*
*does stupid shit to get unblackballed*
A Netflix special is a big deal and would be a great career move for any comedian. And if you can't get work as it is, I'd take the money and do it just to get back in business.
Hart's specials were just his tours filmed and released on dvd. I dont think netflix paid him or offered him anything besides streaming money for his stuff.
Totally different than what this is.
On one hand, I'd pay to see the other 3, and not Monique.
On the other, 5% is real fuckin low.
Also lmao for people using this thread to continue shitting on Dave's specials for 2 reasons:
1. Shit was fuckin funny
2. Netflix isn't paying them for laughs, they're paying them for eyeballs, engagement and subscriptions. Dave moves the needle, Monique doesn't.
On the other, 5% is real fuckin low.
Also lmao for people using this thread to continue shitting on Dave's specials for 2 reasons:
1. Shit was fuckin funny
2. Netflix isn't paying them for laughs, they're paying them for eyeballs, engagement and subscriptions. Dave moves the needle, Monique doesn't.
This isn't true, she did stand-up long before she had a serious acting career. She just had more success acting than doing stand-up comedy.
People in this thread saying she isn't should tell you that she isn't. Mo'nique is not even close to a big name in stand up. I am very aware of who she is and this is my first time hearing that she's ever done stand up.
She should've taken the money and reinvigorate her career, instead she just burned another oportunity :/
No. According to her she wasn't lowballed because she is black. She wasn't even lowballed because she is a woman.
She claims she was lowballed because she is a Black Woman.
Couldn't just be that she isn't worth as much as the other three.
What?
Anyway, she needs to chill. She isn't a draw like the others and never was. She is known in the black community and basically no where else. Like, take that half a mil and do a dope special.
honestly i didn't even know she was a stand up, all i knew about her was she was great in precious, and she had a feud with the director which is why he didn't give her a role in empire.
Chappelle is one of the biggest stand-ups on the planet. Of course he's going to make millions.
500k for one stand-up special from Monique does not seem like low-balling to me.
Yeah, let's see her get offered anything ever again.
She might have sunk what was left of her (rather lackluster) career.
Her standup was always full to the brim with jokes stoking her inflated ego. No surprise at all.
i agree.
She might be able to get $250.00 from crackle.
Business will pay for value. These stories always frustrate me as I don't think Netflix is at fault but I do suspect her identity impacts her reach. I also don't care about the ins and outs of 500k earnings.
I super sympathipatic to black actors and women getting lowballed.
But holy shit you ain't done nothing in forever and you're trying to compare yourself to Dave Chapelle? Girl bye.
But holy shit you ain't done nothing in forever and you're trying to compare yourself to Dave Chapelle? Girl bye.
Yep, this is where I stand. Incredibly funny woman, immensely talented actress, but I think a better comparison would anyone from the seemingly endless stream of Netflix stand-up specials, not A-Listers who could easily sell-out stadiums if they wanted. If she's getting short-changed compared to them - and she might be, who knows - then there's something here.
that's cause good comedians can usually do drama
but good dramatists can't easily do comedy
This could have been a golden goose for her in terms of eyeballs. I know my students alone eat up those comedy flicks in class during off days. She could have pulled a john mulaney, but NOOOPE. she's back to her old antics that got her in the hot seat in the first place.
Never heard of her, but did it ever cross her mind that one of the reasons Netflix offered her a comparatively low offer was because they already have a good line up of stand up shows. Sounds like business to me
I think people in entertainment need to realize they're not entitled to money just because. Like I don't even know who she is and a comparison to Chapelle or Chris Rock isn't going to do the vast majority of comedians any favors. Very big difference in name value.
This isn't like a normal job where you have two people in the same position being paid different salaries due to gender or race. Entertainment in itself is basically a business made on your image and "box office value".
If that one white girl (the twin hero or something) or Vision in the MCU complained about getting paid $1 million compared to RDJ's $25 million or whatever, is anyone gonna give a crap? They're minor and insignificant roles whereas he's carried the brand and basically made it what it is.
Similar thing here. Chapelle and Chris Rock are going to attract a lot more attention and a mean a hell of a lot more, which is ultimately more beneficial to Netflix.
The $500k would be a problem if she's getting paid more to do her shows as it is and Netflix is going lower, or other comedians of similar standing are receiving a lot more from Netflix. Not if she's simply expecting it because of what other more famous people were paid.
This isn't like a normal job where you have two people in the same position being paid different salaries due to gender or race. Entertainment in itself is basically a business made on your image and "box office value".
If that one white girl (the twin hero or something) or Vision in the MCU complained about getting paid $1 million compared to RDJ's $25 million or whatever, is anyone gonna give a crap? They're minor and insignificant roles whereas he's carried the brand and basically made it what it is.
Similar thing here. Chapelle and Chris Rock are going to attract a lot more attention and a mean a hell of a lot more, which is ultimately more beneficial to Netflix.
The $500k would be a problem if she's getting paid more to do her shows as it is and Netflix is going lower, or other comedians of similar standing are receiving a lot more from Netflix. Not if she's simply expecting it because of what other more famous people were paid.
I liked her as a host on Showtime at the Apollo. And I like that she doesn't bow to societal pressure to shave her legs. Real courage. Not even kidding.
But 500k? I don't know.
Last week, I watched two drug addicts try offer a falafel truck three bottles of unopened soda and a composition notebook in exchange for a 4-inch strip of aluminum foil and a drinking straw. I feel like sometimes Netflix is that drug addict that's lost perspective on the actual value of what they're feening for. They just mindlessly pay too much for content from anyone with an IMDb page.
But 500k? I don't know.
Last week, I watched two drug addicts try offer a falafel truck three bottles of unopened soda and a composition notebook in exchange for a 4-inch strip of aluminum foil and a drinking straw. I feel like sometimes Netflix is that drug addict that's lost perspective on the actual value of what they're feening for. They just mindlessly pay too much for content from anyone with an IMDb page.
She hasn't been relevant since The Parkers, and The Parkers hasn't been relevant since UPN.
Next argument.
Next argument.
Monique's Blackballing was totally avoidable. All she had to do was show up and promote a movie. How much was she making in her prime to turn down half-a-mil?
Lol and damn there's some youngins here.
Lol and damn there's some youngins here.
I guess I'm in tge minority because I've know about her back in the day catchibg reruns of The Parkers with my Sis.
I think she definitely has a case but boycotting Netflix may or may not do much to help her case.
I'd watch her specials though, she's funny as fuck and has a unique charisma.
I think she definitely has a case but boycotting Netflix may or may not do much to help her case.
I'd watch her specials though, she's funny as fuck and has a unique charisma.
Um yes she is....did you not see Queens of Comedy? Or I could be your Cellmate?
Seriously, Monique is hilarious to me and I think her having a large hiatus is why her money offer is low...but I mean I would take it you kick start my career back into stand up since it's been years since I did it. However compared to Chapelle, I think she should have at least got a million. Chapelle is pretty stale to me now especially with his questionable statements. Chapelle was better with sketch comedy so whatevs.
I don't think it's racism or sexism tho, I think it's due to how much she is worth at this time....and it just isn't a lot.
There's another article on this from Vulture, and it brings up a few good points that give Netflix additional leverage in negotiations:
If she doesn't have enough of a following for Netflix to offer her more money then she definitely doesn't have enough of a following for Netflix to notice a boycott. lol. try again
As a reminder, what happened with Monique after her Oscar was that she was expecting to get paid for promoting the movie and the schmoozing for Oscar consideration (on top of what she was already paid to do the movie), even though the norm is that actors do it as part of the job of promoting their movies (it'd be like actors wanting to get paid extra to do junkets). That pissed off everyone involved in the production and a lot of people in Hollywood in general.
That's not great for talent like Mo'Nique. As one agent told Vulture, "She will be lucky if she can find anywhere else that will even pay her half of what Netflix was offering
Yup
If her last special is on Netflix (which the Vulture article says it is), then Netflix knows exactly how many people watched it compared to the comedians she's talking about, and other comedians they already have on the service. So they have a better idea of how much her special would be worth to them than she does.
What do other comedians get from Netflix?
And keep in mind that Netflix also targets an international audience, and I doubt there are many outside the US who know her.
Dave Chappelle is legitimately one of the most respected stand-up comedians to ever live. Like, possibly the most respected living stand-up. For as well respected as Chappelle's Show was, you will find LOTS of dissent that his sketch work was better than his stand-up.
The difference between Mo'nique and the three she is referencing is the other three could fill up arenas. Schumer does. Chappelle doesn't want to, but still pulled big numbers at radio city. This is like a veteran benchwarmer comparing their salary to Lebron James and Steph Curry.
This is the better question.
If Todd Barry and Ari Shaffir are making a lot more than her, than she has a point. But she chose to compare herself to much, much bigger stars.
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Yup, this pretty much sums it up, Netflix offered her way more than anyone else would. No surprise, Netflix typically offers more than they probably have to because they want as much exclusive content as possible and have the money to spend.
The offer was 500K, not 5K. $5,000 would've been ridiculous
Why is she worth a mill when most people here barely recognize her and she is virtually unknown internationally?
I hate to be a dick but I literally had to Google her to find out who she was. Now I agree it's fucked a black woman can't become a big enough name to get these kind of specials but I don't think that's what happened here.
