Monster Hunter World: Iceborne |OT| The cold never bothered me anyway

Alexhex

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Oct 27, 2017
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So I think that abusing the fact that monsters get enraged right after you smash them into a wall to keep agitator always activated is like, my new favorite thing ever?
 
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BDS

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Oct 25, 2017
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If anyone is curious, this is the endgame bow set I've settled on until I can get that True Critical Element Silver Rathalos armor:

Velkhana Helm B (slotted for Normal Shots and Constitution)
Velkhana Chest B (slotted for Bow Charge Plus and Critical Eye)
Teostra Arms B (slotted for Weakness Exploit x2)
Namielle Waist B (slotted for Spread Shots and Critical Eye x2)
Namielle Legs B (slotted for Normal Shots and Constitution)
Level 3 charm for each element

This gives Normal Shots 2, Spread Shots 1, Constitution 3, Stamina Surge 3, Weakness Exploit 3, Bow Charge Plus, Critical Eye 3, level 3 of the respective elemental attack, and Quick Sheath 2 and Divine Blessing 2 as free QoL skills, along with Critical Element and Element Acceleration set bonuses. The elemental attack charms can be upgraded a further two levels once I get the materials, and most of the bows can slot in another point of elemental attack or Critical Eye depending on the setup. The water bow slots in a Free Element jewel and the Namielle bonus activates the other two points of the skill, in theory anyway.
 

Hybris

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Oct 25, 2017
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So I think that abusing the fact that monsters get enraged right after you smash them into a wall to keep agitator always activated is like, my new favorite thing ever?
Yeah its good especially since monsters take absolutely forever to enrage now. I can get 2 KOs with hammer with a pure damage build on some of them before they even think about enraging. More specifically, the small claw hits before smashing them into the wall causes the enrage btw. 3 circle attack hits on the head will trigger enrage no matter what, even if they are exhausted.
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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If anyone is curious, this is the endgame bow set I've settled on until I can get that True Critical Element Silver Rathalos armor:

Velkhana Helm B (slotted for Normal Shots and Constitution)
Velkhana Chest B (slotted for Bow Charge Plus and Critical Eye)
Teostra Arms B (slotted for Weakness Exploit x2)
Namielle Waist B (slotted for Spread Shots and Critical Eye x2)
Namielle Legs B (slotted for Normal Shots and Constitution)
Level 3 charm for each element

This gives Normal Shots 2, Spread Shots 1, Constitution 3, Stamina Surge 3, Weakness Exploit 3, Bow Charge Plus, Critical Eye 3, level 3 of the respective elemental attack, and Quick Sheath 2 and Divine Blessing 2 as free QoL skills, along with Critical Element and Element Acceleration set bonuses. The elemental attack charms can be upgraded a further two levels once I get the materials, and most of the bows can slot in another point of elemental attack or Critical Eye depending on the setup. The water bow slots in a Free Element jewel and the Namielle bonus activates the other two points of the skill, in theory anyway.
Whew!

That is a sexy bow set
 

Alexhex

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Oct 27, 2017
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Canada
Yeah its good especially since monsters take absolutely forever to enrage now. I can get 2 KOs with hammer with a pure damage build on some of them before they even think about enraging. More specifically, the small claw hits before smashing them into the wall causes the enrage btw. 3 circle attack hits on the head will trigger enrage no matter what, even if they are exhausted.
I didn't know it was the claw!! Thank you for that haha. Feel like I usually have to reposition them anyway or just claw them when I have a light weapon but that's good to know
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unless you really want one of her weapons just skip her. You don't need to fight her to get to master rank.
I know, but I wanted to tackle all the old content I missed before diving into Iceborne.

Besides, it wouldn't feel right to skip her just because she kicked my ass once.

Fire proof mantle and health Booster

Stay on her flank and go to town with a good ice weapon

Fire res helps a lot.
What would be better, the regular Kulve Taroth R8 Ice hammer or a medium/high Elderseal weapon like either the Nerg or VH hammers?

I went in blind and the supernovas were the main reason I failed the assignment. Made me cart twice; the first time it took me by surprise and the second time I misjudged the distance of the hurtbox. From what I understand I should superman dive the first blast and stay on the ground to tank through the second, right?

The 15 minute timer isn't helping here, but hopefully my next attempt will go better.
 

Geist 6one7

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Oct 29, 2017
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LBG is a new thing for me, but it sure sounds very useful for this fight. I need to find out what these recoil mods are. I think it'll be a good idea to get to the training ground and see what that weapon is all about. As for armor, my biggest defense is the Nergigante armor.


Try something like this, I think you should have access to all these parts except maybe the augments and decos. Also not shown is the Critical Element 2 piece set bonus for Rathalos armor.
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know, but I wanted to tackle all the old content I missed before diving into Iceborne.

Besides, it wouldn't feel right to skip her just because she kicked my ass once.


What would be better, the regular Kulve Taroth R8 Ice hammer or a medium/high Elderseal weapon like either the Nerg or VH hammers?

I went in blind and the supernovas were the main reason I failed the assignment. Made me cart twice; the first time it took me by surprise and the second time I misjudged the distance of the hurtbox. From what I understand I should superman dive the first blast and stay on the ground to tank through the second, right?

The 15 minute timer isn't helping here, but hopefully my next attempt will go better.
I just eat the damage. With enough fire rest/mantle or health booster the normal Lunastra shouldnt be able to cart you even with a full nova

Youll want to have upgraded armor that puts you over 400 defense though. If you need extra then eat for high defense or elemental res with a voucher

Also consider running health boost or divine blessing.

Stay aggressive and avoid that tail and you should be fine
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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While I appreciate the gesture doesn’t that take away having to try and earn armour sets in the base game since they’re now superfluous?
The armor isnt broken. Youll have to upgrade it in high rank and it doesnt have many slots so you may replace it before then

Its training wheels armor but you could opt to not use it
 
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1 - bowguns dont have innate element and instead have access to element ammo. In the case of Light Bowguns you may have access to Rapid Fire of that particular elemental ammo with that gun but im not sure

2 - They are exactly what they sound like. You can craft mods onto your gun to give you access to various bonuses or modifications to how your gun operates. I believe this is all done at the smithy and recoil reduction is very useful but make sure you need it before wasting a mod slot on it. you can see the recoil stats of a particular gun for a given ammo type in its info screen (highlight gun in the equipment menu and scroll its pages)

3 - Just bring all the relevant ammo you need and set it as an Item loadout. There is a separate bag just for ammo so it doesnt use inventory space. You can either buy it or mass craft it. You are limited to how much of each ammo you can carry in the field but you can replenish it by bringing the materials in your normal inventory or gathering them in the field. I dont recommend the later unless you did some serious pre planning and research. You can also set up a hotkey to instant craft extra ammo on your radial menu and this is an invaluable skill for any gunner to learn especially if your gun specializes in a particular ammo type.

There is so much more to learn about bowguns but this is the basics. Hit me up with any further questions!
Nice, lots of great help!

There's another thing, I want to use water ammo but I see a red X on the icon. Is this because my weapon is the lightning Blitz and that I need to have a LBG from the water tree?
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nice, lots of great help!

There's another thing, I want to use water ammo but I see a red X on the icon. Is this because my weapon is the lightning Blitz and that I need to have a LBG from the water tree?
Yeah each gun has certain ammo types it can load and some it cant. So have fun making a bunch of different guns and makes load outs/builds to give you the edge!
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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About to face Velkhana, did the
defend the fort mission
and he/she gave me some problems. This is going to be the first truly hard IB fight, isn't it?
 

CampFreddie

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know, but I wanted to tackle all the old content I missed before diving into Iceborne.

Besides, it wouldn't feel right to skip her just because she kicked my ass once.


What would be better, the regular Kulve Taroth R8 Ice hammer or a medium/high Elderseal weapon like either the Nerg or VH hammers?

I went in blind and the supernovas were the main reason I failed the assignment. Made me cart twice; the first time it took me by surprise and the second time I misjudged the distance of the hurtbox. From what I understand I should superman dive the first blast and stay on the ground to tank through the second, right?

The 15 minute timer isn't helping here, but hopefully my next attempt will go better.
A good tip for Luna is to use the heat guard charm and cool drinks. They dramatically reduce damage from the blue-fire pools.
Also, keep a farcaster on quick-dial. You can usually survive the initial nova blast (with a dive or tanking it if your fire resistance is good enough) but get killed by the DOT in the aftershock/firestorm (the dive won't keep you down for long enough). You can usually get a farcaster launched before you die.
Cheesing it with temporal/fire mantle and tool specialist was possible (just don't fight unless one of those is active), but temporal mantle has been nerfed so I expect you can't do that any more.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just eat the damage. With enough fire rest/mantle or health booster the normal Lunastra shouldnt be able to cart you even with a full nova

Youll want to have upgraded armor that puts you over 400 defense though. If you need extra then eat for high defense or elemental res with a voucher

Also consider running health boost or divine blessing.

Stay aggressive and avoid that tail and you should be fine
These are my stats with meal + fully buffed:



Problem with the Nova was that I could survive the first blast, only to get stunlocked by something (wind? the heat patches? I'm not sure honestly) and get killed by the DoT + second blast. The layout of the arena really isn't helpful since the ring isn't wide enough to outrun the blasts even when you're both on opposite sides of the ring.

A good tip for Luna is to use the heat guard charm and cool drinks. They dramatically reduce damage from the blue-fire pools.
Also, keep a farcaster on quick-dial. You can usually survive the initial nova blast (with a dive or tanking it if your fire resistance is good enough) but get killed by the DOT in the aftershock/firestorm (the dive won't keep you down for long enough). You can usually get a farcaster launched before you die.
Cheesing it with temporal/fire mantle and tool specialist was possible (just don't fight unless one of those is active), but temporal mantle has been nerfed so I expect you can't do that any more.
Hadn't even thought of the farcaster. That might be a good idea actually!

I already took the cool drinks, but I hadn't thought of the heat charm yet either. Do they stack, though?

My advice, start Iceborne, get Beotodus or more desirable Banbaro's outfit, fight Lunastra and Teostra and whatever you need to fight in HR.
So HR content with MR gear? I dunno, kind of feels like cheesing it that way. :p
 

Wyze

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Nov 15, 2018
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Kind of weird that I have to go back and farm HR Jyaratudus to make his MR light bowgun instead of just let me forge the MR with his MR mats.

Don’t mind it just weird
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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These are my stats with meal + fully buffed:



Problem with the Nova was that I could survive the first blast, only to get stunlocked by something (wind? the heat patches? I'm not sure honestly) and get killed by the DoT + second blast. The layout of the arena really isn't helpful since the ring isn't wide enough to outrun the blasts even when you're both on opposite sides of the ring.


Hadn't even thought of the farcaster. That might be a good idea actually!

I already took the cool drinks, but I hadn't thought of the heat charm yet either. Do they stack, though?


So HR content with MR gear? I dunno, kind of feels like cheesing it that way. :p
Heat guard is super useful and Im surprised she is tagging you with gear that good

Heat guard might be the missing link there. I remember that I also ran a health augment on my weapon so i was usually at full health and only took single hits of the Nova
 

MegaSackman

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Oct 27, 2017
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These are my stats with meal + fully buffed:



Problem with the Nova was that I could survive the first blast, only to get stunlocked by something (wind? the heat patches? I'm not sure honestly) and get killed by the DoT + second blast. The layout of the arena really isn't helpful since the ring isn't wide enough to outrun the blasts even when you're both on opposite sides of the ring.


Hadn't even thought of the farcaster. That might be a good idea actually!

I already took the cool drinks, but I hadn't thought of the heat charm yet either. Do they stack, though?


So HR content with MR gear? I dunno, kind of feels like cheesing it that way. :p

Lol, it is, right? I beat them (Lunastra and Teostra) with Azure Rathalos outfit but with great pain. I couldn't beat Behemoth tho and I'm gonna use the best MR set I can find to do so lol.
 

Hybris

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Oct 25, 2017
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These are my stats with meal + fully buffed:



Problem with the Nova was that I could survive the first blast, only to get stunlocked by something (wind? the heat patches? I'm not sure honestly) and get killed by the DoT + second blast. The layout of the arena really isn't helpful since the ring isn't wide enough to outrun the blasts even when you're both on opposite sides of the ring.


Hadn't even thought of the farcaster. That might be a good idea actually!

I already took the cool drinks, but I hadn't thought of the heat charm yet either. Do they stack, though?


So HR content with MR gear? I dunno, kind of feels like cheesing it that way. :p
Tip for the nova windpress is instead of diving the initial blast, power charge your hammer and hold the charge for a bit. Hammer gets some super armor while charging in power charge (other weapons have other options for this as well) After the flames come out, roll to cancel the charge, sheathe and spam dive away from her. You have full immunity from the ticking fire damage while you are in the diving animation. This will reduce the damage you take significantly.
 

Dogenzaka

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Apr 20, 2019
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Is there any worse feeling than loving the look of an alpha armor set knowing this game will never have transmog?
 

komaruR

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I was away last weekend so I'm really behind and just got kicked repeatedly in the butt by Barioth.
But man I missed this game so much. 250hrs in, I booted Iceborne and immediately remembered why I love this game so much.

Last time I played was for the spring event. I'm way less rusty then I anticipated (back then when I played the spring event after a long break it took me a solid day to be able to play lol).

anyway, any good new hammers?
the new mr bone tree hammer is a replacement for diablos without neg affinity. you need to gather some of the bone piles for special dragon artifact loot tho. think u need 1 or 2 only.
 

DrROBschiz

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would not expect an announcement of any further DLC until after Rajang is released.
My expectations are in check

But they did say they have a LOT of DLC on the way. A tease isn't unreasonable :p

Otherwise Im expecting them to focus on Rajang and maybe the next month of event quests. Maybe they will show off the weapon design winners again? Its been awhile

Probably see the next collab stuffs?
 

Seraphis Cain

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay, I've fought Barioth, Narga, and Tigrex now.

And honestly? Barioth is still the hardest of the three. It might be because of my prior experience with Tigrex in the older games and his relatively unchanged moveset, but he wasn't that bad at all. Nowhere near as hard as Barioth.
 
Jan 24, 2018
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I'm jealous. All of you are playing Iceborne whilst I sit at HR5 trying to get past each monster I go at solo most of the time, unless some kind soul in here helps me. Just got through the Zorah Magdaaros in the ravine sequence. I hate to rush through the base game and miss out on some good side quests though. Any recommendations for can't-miss sidequests?
 

DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would not expect an announcement of any further DLC until after Rajang is released.
I could see an announcement of a collaboration event quest with another Capcom series. I know they dropped the ball on that in the base game, but we still got DMC and Mega Man in there and it's odd that we haven't heard about anything new.