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Ascheroth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you mean the extremely long and unskippable ones? If so, no clue. It doesn't seem like there was really any changes for this from the console version other than the obvious hardware boosts/toggles you get with PC. Seems like a super basic port in that regard. Doesn't help either that it doesn't even come with the currently released DLC monsters either. Them being released "faster" doesn't mean anything to me if it still takes 1-3 months.
They've replaced the Squad thing with Steam Groups.
 

Kanhir

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Any Europeans dreading their first run because of the heatwave? I already have a fan next to my PC ready to have ice packs strapped to it.
 

Igniz12

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Can you just go online and look for a random group to join mid session or in the lobby(if there is one) or can you only do co-op by grouping up via Steam groups?
 

Kalik

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
4,523
Will it have updated graphics? Not at launch
Will it have all the add ons that the console versions have? Not at launch
What will this cost at launch? Full retail

seems like the wise move would be to wait for the Steam Winter Sale when (hopefully) the game will be in a more complete state + bug fixes/performance optimizations
 

Pendas

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,649
Well, I just bought this. I have never played a Monster Hunter game before, the Monsters and weapons just look too awesome for me to not try it. The only thing I am sort of worried about is that I dislike grinding in games (which is why I can't play MMOs). I'm hoping the fights are fun enough for me to keep at it.

The best way I can describe it is your're playing a Multiplayer Dark Souls where you only fight the boss... and he's a lot stronger.
 

Isee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,235
Will it have updated graphics? Not at launch
Will it have all the add ons that the console versions have? Not at launch
What will this cost at launch? Full retail

seems like the wise move would be to wait for the Steam Winter Sale when (hopefully) the game will be in a more complete state + bug fixes/performance optimizations


haha, you seem really torn about buying this or not.


Graphics: Granted it's not mindblowing, but you can get 60 fps, which the console versions weren't able to deliver. Even locked 30 fps were impossible, because the game was running unlocked, if I remember the DF video correctly. You can also tweak the LOD and a couple other details beyond console quality, if you have to horse power. Loading times also significantly improved, which is also nice to have. Still a rather bare bone port, but it's serviceable for their first try.

Addon parts: They are coming. Not a deal breaker for me, but I'm also new to Monster Hunter in general. So...

Cost: You can get it for around 40€ with various coupons if I'm not mistaken. Worst case scenario would be cdkeys.com, where it costs 43.80€ currently. That is about what you can expect from the first steam sale (60€ -25%= 45€). New AAA steam games from big developers rarely get more then 25% during sales in the first 6-12 months after release.

But I think you already put many hours into the console version. I, for example, played through Dark Souls 1 several times on PS3 and later on PC and ignored the "remastered" version. The "been there, done that" feeling was too strong and the remastered version didn't offer me enough to come back. Maybe it's the same for you with this game.
 

cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
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a Socialist Utopia
Will it have updated graphics? Not at launch
Will it have all the add ons that the console versions have? Not at launch
What will this cost at launch? Full retail

seems like the wise move would be to wait for the Steam Winter Sale when (hopefully) the game will be in a more complete state + bug fixes/performance optimizations

Or just buy it and play now because it's an awesome game? That's what many people are going to do. You do you.
 

Kalik

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
4,523
haha, you seem really torn about buying this or not...

I really want to like this and buy it but I can't ignore the negatives...I've never played a MH game and all the high praise it gets can't be wrong...as a huge fan of the Dark Souls series I want to try this...but I also don't want to feel shortchanged by playing now and a few months later Capcom releases an HD Texture Pack etc...yes loading times, resolution and frame rate are improved but this game badly needs an HD texture improvement...if they had priced the game at maybe $40 I would be 100% in but it seems like a gimped PC version that has the possibility of getting a lot better after a few months

I don't like playing games multiple times and want the first time through to be the best version
 

Ascheroth

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Oct 25, 2017
6,691
I got the game for 35€, which I felt comfortable paying \shrug.
But the base price being 60€ + separate Deluxe edition is still pretty... arrogant.
 

KainXVIII

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Oct 26, 2017
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/monster-hunter-world-pc-geforce-gtx-recommended-gpus/
Going into detail, our GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition had a smooth, stutter-free average framerate of 61.4 FPS at 1920x1080, with an occasional dip, the lowest of which was 49 FPS. Switching our i5-6600K to an i7-6700K, however, saw average framerates rocket to 73.2 FPS, with frames going no lower than 60.
At 2560x1440, an i7-6700K and a GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition gets gamers a 60.9 average framerate, with only a few momentary dips to 48 FPS. If you wish to go faster, grab a newer, shinier CPU with even higher clock speeds.

At 4K, in our demanding benchmark scenario, our Founders Edition GeForce GTX 1080 Ti reached 38.2 FPS average, with lows of 32. In other areas framerates will be higher, but for smooth, high performance at all times, we recommend setting the "Resolution Scaling" setting to "Variable (prioritize framerate)". This will dynamically adjust game settings as you play, without downscaling the display resolution, with the aim of getting you a consistent 60 FPS experience.

If you're struggling for performance on your system, we recommend decreasing the detail level of the Volumetric Lighting, SH Diffuse Quality and Ambient Occlusion options, and if you need an additional boost, enable "Resolution Scaling: Variable (prioritize framerate)
monster-hunter-world-nvidia-geforce-gtx-recommended-graphics-cards.png
 

hoserx

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ohio
First thing's first: the thread title is awesome. Secondly, I am leaving for an 11 day backpacking trip today...... bad timing! haha.
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,186
WBacon I can't seem to launch the game at all when my PC is offline / Steam is in offline mode. Seems like an drastic oversight? Or maybe it's on my end?

Can anyone else confirm?

Also I think the poogie petting controller prompts are mixed up. A says Stop for me but does nothing, B says pet but stops.
 
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Ascheroth

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Oct 25, 2017
6,691
Why? That's normal for a full-price AAA game. New AAA PS4 games often go for up to €70 these days.
It's a late port though. And only lunatics price PC games at 70€ (*cough* Koei Tecmo *cough*). Many new releases still go for 50€.
I expected 50€ max tbh. I probably would have been fine with 60 if it had the Deluxe version content. But 60 + extra Deluxe version just doesn't feel right.
 

TheYanger

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,152
I really want to like this and buy it but I can't ignore the negatives...I've never played a MH game and all the high praise it gets can't be wrong...as a huge fan of the Dark Souls series I want to try this...but I also don't want to feel shortchanged by playing now and a few months later Capcom releases an HD Texture Pack etc...yes loading times, resolution and frame rate are improved but this game badly needs an HD texture improvement...if they had priced the game at maybe $40 I would be 100% in but it seems like a gimped PC version that has the possibility of getting a lot better after a few months

I don't like playing games multiple times and want the first time through to be the best version
So in other words, it's the same value it was on launch at console. Which was good.

It's a late port though. And only lunatics price PC games at 70€ (*cough* Koei Tecmo *cough*). Many new releases still go for 50€.
I expected 50€ max tbh. I probably would have been fine with 60 if it had the Deluxe version content. But 60 + extra Deluxe version just doesn't feel right.
It's available cheaply on plenty of sites. The free market of the PC wins out every time.
 

Isee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,235
That's pretty much my setup. Didn't realize i7-6700K was considered old already. :(

Same boat, but with a 7700k. Which is a 6700k in disguise, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol, jesus christ. You'd think the game has world class visuals or something. I swear AC Origins wasn't even this demanding.

At release? It sure was extremely demanding, especially Alexandria. I had to oc my 7700k slightly over 5GHz to get close to stable 60 fps there. An OC I don't feel comfortable running on a regular basis. They later patched out the ultra LOD/Details settings and renamed very high to ultra because of the "bad port, denuvo is killing CPU performance" accusations that went viral.

https://youtu.be/NNsbbgSOz4k

Are MHW CPU requirements justified? No idea tbh. Just saying that AC:O was even more demanding at ultra settings at release.
 
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Linus815

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Oct 29, 2017
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Same boat, but with a 7700k. Which is a 6700k in disguise, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

it's pretty telling when even nvidia, a graphics card maker tells you to get a better CPU to get a better experience lol. And for gaming, from the 6700/7700k the only way to go is really only the 8700k. So ehh..
I bought the game, and I'm looking forward playing it but I'm really worried about the performance at higher resolutions.
 

Kanhir

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Lol, jesus christ. You'd think the game has world class visuals or something. I swear AC Origins wasn't even this demanding.
Crazy, isn't it? It feels like it was optimised for future CPUs/GPUs.

This does make me wonder why the game doesn't have a benchmark, like FFXV did. That would answer a lot of the questions people are having about whether it runs satisfactorily on their specific setup.

Same boat, but with a 7700k. Which is a 6700k in disguise, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Same here. Are you doing any CPU/GPU overclocking? I had a bad experience in the past so I don't tend to do much OC, but I might if the benefits are tangible here.
 

Pendas

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Oct 28, 2017
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People going on in this thread like visuals have ever been important in a Monster Hunter game... Meanwhile long-time fans are just happy the game isn't made of pixels.
 

Isee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,235
Same here. Are you doing any CPU/GPU overclocking? I had a bad experience in the past so I don't tend to do much OC, but I might if the benefits are tangible here.

~2000 MHz on the GPU and 4700MHz on the CPU, so nothing mindblowing.

And for gaming, from the 6700/7700k the only way to go is really only the 8700k. So ehh..

Yeah, especially as z270 boards are incompatible with the 8700k (still hate intel for that). I'm not willing to spend ~180€ on a new mainboard and ~350€ on a new CPU just for two more cores. Despite 4c i7s running out of breath sooner then I expected.
I'm trying to hold out for as long as possible.
 

Kalik

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
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People going on in this thread like visuals have ever been important in a Monster Hunter game... Meanwhile long-time fans are just happy the game isn't made of pixels.

when the developer mentions that a PC high-res texture pack might be released post-release it does make a huge difference
 

test_account

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,645
No, there are no Jaggis. Jaggis were in previous monster hunter games, starting with Tri.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...der_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20140616221348

Jagras are a whole another species.
The title refers to Jaggi/Great Jaggi, a common early monster in previous games.

...and aliasing.
Ah ok, i see, thanks :) Yeah, i knew about it also referring to aliasing, but didnt know about the Jaggi in previous games.
 

Pendas

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Oct 28, 2017
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when the developer mentions that a PC high-res texture pack might be released post-release it does make a huge difference

Not really? They're telling you about it so.. it let's you make an informed decision about your purchase. Imagine how pissed people would be if they didn't tell you?

Edit: Also your decision is simple.. if you're in it for the gameplay / community then buy it now and have fun progressing with other Hunters. If you want pretty graphics, then wait for the HD pack.

But I can tell you right now, ask any longtime Monster Hunter fan what makes this series great... graphics won't even be in the top 10.
 
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Isee

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Oct 25, 2017
6,235
I don't even know if I like Volume Rendering tbh.
Do you guys remember a time when fog was used to improve performance in games like Turok instead of making it worse? But maybe I'm overseeing something.
 

Kalik

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
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Not really? They're telling you about it so.. it let's you make an informed decision about your purchase. Imagine how pissed people would be if they didn't tell you?

Edit: Also your decision is simple.. if you're in it for the gameplay / community then buy it now and have fun progressing with other Hunters. If you want pretty graphics, then wait for the HD pack.

but they're not telling us definitively so we cannot make an informed decision...they keep stating that they 'might' release one:

MH:W Producer: "When the game launches the visuals will have parity with the console versions but we're considering releasing a free update after launch."

if they had said 'Yes we will be releasing an HD texture Pack a few months after release' or 'No we will not be releasing any visual upgrade patch for PC' then consumers could make an informed decision...this 'maybe' stuff is terrible...PC gamers might be able to get gameplay/community plus pretty graphics so it's not an either/or situation
 

Banzai

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
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The best way I can describe it is your're playing a Multiplayer Dark Souls where you only fight the boss... and he's a lot stronger.
I hate grinding in MMOs, but I love grinding in MH, for what it's worth.

I personally think "grinding" as of a monotonous task that I'm not enjoying. However in MH it's 95% of the time enjoyable to farm materials with different weapons etc... There are some exceptions in form of some more tedious monsters, but they are in extreme minority.
That's exactly what I'm hoping for, awesome.

I would compare it to a diablo style game, if that's a point of reference for you. The gameplay is completely different, but the 'loop' is very similar - only instead of murdering 100 enemies, your'e killing one very hard enemy.

It's not a game where you're grinding to get to the fun part, it's a game where you're grinding the fun part itself.

This a little less so. I'm not a fan of Diablo at all, but I'm willing to give the game a real shot
 

Kanhir

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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I wish this game had a Demo. I'm in the mood for a grindy game but I'm unsure if I'd even like the gameplay.
If you have a 3DS or Switch, the previous games have demos. This game has a lot of QOL changes compared to those, but it gives you a general idea of the MH style of gameplay.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is there some kind of thing in World that is advisable to start doing from the very beginning? Like collecting honey in the older games, so you always had enough for mega pots (until you got your farm going anyway).
 

Pendas

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Oct 28, 2017
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This a little less so. I'm not a fan of Diablo at all, but I'm willing to give the game a real shot

Not to be critical of the person you quoted... but this game is NOTHING like Diablo. There's no top down camera, no randomized dungeons, no random gear drops with random stats, no exp system, no skill unlocks... I just can't see where he got this comparison from.
 

Euler

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is there some kind of thing in World that is advisable to start doing from the very beginning? Like collecting honey in the older games, so you always had enough for mega pots (until you got your farm going anyway).
I think there's less of this overall this game. Farming speed is much quicker in this game and there are no pickaxes/bugnets so you can just farm a little bit in every hunt. Your character barely has to stop to gather now for most spots. I think only bonepiles and mining places require you to stop.
 

Leandras

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,462
I wasnt really that hyped for it before but damn I'm feeling it now! Asked my friend if she wanted to try it this weekend. We're big into MMOs and raids but were looking for a co-op game that had more action based combat so honestly this is most likely what we've been looking for!

Edit: So getting a gunlance!
 
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