More PS5 info on PS4 backwards compatibility, console sharing, party settings and more leaked via PS Store web source code

DarkVaber32 · Sep 29, 2020

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/j28s89/more_ps5_info_on_backcompat_forced/

Backwards Compatibility:

"playing PS4 games on PS5, some functionalities available on PS4 may not be available. See www.playstation.com/ps5-backwards-compatibility for more details." (dead link, currently)
"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game"
"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."
"PS5 boost mode enabled"

"So, not all PS4 games will be supported, and indeed, as suggested a few months back, you'll need to update the system OS to access newly compatible PS4 games. We already knew boost mode was coming, but interesting to see Sony is sticking with that naming convention"

(EDIT from OP: Also found this

"msgid_experience_unexpected_game_behavior":"Beim Spielen dieses PS4-Spiels auf einer PS5-Konsole kann unerwartetes Verhalten auftreten."

translates to:
Unexpected behavior may occur when playing this PS4 game on PS5 console)

-Forced vibration/adaptive triggers:

"msgid_ps5_controller_trigger_effect": "Trigger effect required"
"msgid_ps5_controller_vibration": "Vibration function required

" Seems that developers are allowed to force haptic feedback/trigger control. Potential accessibility issue? "
-Console sharing

"If the "Console Sharing and Offline Play" setting is enabled for your PS5, players aged 18+ who aren't PS Now subscribers will be able to play PS Now games from the game's shortcut icon (displayed on the PS5 home screen) as well as in the PS Now app."

"Ignoring the specific PS Now bit, this suggests that PS5 will bring forward PS4's "Primary" account model in some form, where a PSN account can be designated "primary" and other users can access it's purchases and subscription content from the same console.

Looks like "primary" is being renamed to "Main" PS5, as the Demon's Souls product page states: "You can download and play this content on the main PS5 console associated with your account (through the "Console Sharing and Offline Play" setting) and on any other PS5 consoles when you login with your same account." (https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/demons-souls/#sku)"

-Cross-Gen party chat:

"Message and voice chat with friends across PS4, PS5 and PlayStation App."

"Unclear whether this is system-level or only certain games. I would assume system level."

-Cloud saves, remote game downloads (obvious, but confirmed):

PlayStation Plus cloud saves can be transferred manually to PS Now, and vice versa, using the Saved Data Management functionality on PS5.
"msgid_download_ps5": "Download to PS5"

Turkoop · Sep 29, 2020

schneper said:
"PS5 boost mode enabled"

Mezoly · Sep 29, 2020

Those are just the site tags.

That can be applied to any game
not really any extra detail tbh

KOfLegend · Sep 29, 2020

Y'all should mention that it's about PS4 backwards compatibility in the title next time. I almost had a heart attack.

Mecha · Sep 29, 2020

Turkoop said:

Ok 🤣🤣🤣

Shark · Sep 29, 2020

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game"

Not my fav. A list soon would be great.

kodax_shc · Sep 29, 2020

I wonder how remote play is going to work with PS5.

J75 · Sep 29, 2020

The "This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game." message makes it sound like the approach Microsoft took with Xbox One BC and adding more games as the years go by. Wonder how many playable games will be at launch. Just hoping FOTNS: Lost Paradise works.

Gamer17 · Sep 29, 2020

This is tags that could be applied in case needed . So bunch of nothing .

Atleast we know ps5 has wishlist on it . For ps4 wihslist is only on website and not ps4.

Dashful · Sep 29, 2020

J75 said:
The "This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game." message makes it sound like the approach Microsoft took with Xbox One BC and adding more games as the years go by. Wonder how many playable games will be at launch. Just hoping FOTNS: Lost Paradise works.

Nah, it's just to have something to show for the 1% that's not working at the moment.

Toumari · Sep 29, 2020

I found this earlier but didn't bother making a post/thread about it. There's a few additional things that it revealed.

The PS5 will support wishlists on the console:

Your wishlist isn't available on this website. You can find it on a PS5

Parties can now include up to 100 people:

You can now share video clips, albums, artists, playlists, tracks on the console. Also something called "Takedown"?

You can now set a name and image for party groups:

The store will show games that are included in the PS Plus Collection:

Zhao_Yun · Sep 29, 2020

You have to have error messages prepared for all eventualities. This means that it doesn't tell us anything about how many PS4 games are potentially affected by it.

salromano · Sep 29, 2020

J75 said:
The "This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game." message makes it sound like the approach Microsoft took with Xbox One BC and adding more games as the years go by. Wonder how many playable games will be at launch. Just hoping FOTNS: Lost Paradise works.

"Ryan also said that of the thousands of games tested for PS4 backwards compatibility, '99 percent' can be played on the next console."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/09/16/ps5-retail-units/

GJ · Sep 29, 2020

Kyolux said:
Nah, it's just to have something to show for the 1% that's not working at the moment.

Probably, yeah. They already announced 99% of the PS4 library would work on the PS5.

Richter1887 · Sep 29, 2020

We already know that 99% of the games will work. That message is probably for the 1% games that don't work (maybe some games that need additional hardware?)

I like that they are talking about the haptics. That means some PS4 games will get support which is great.

Xx 720 · Sep 29, 2020

Cross chat with ps app is nice, that's new isn't it?

Dphex · Sep 29, 2020

Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

Kyolux said:
Nah, it's just to have something to show for the 1% that's not working at the moment.

That is a very positive thought, i appreciate it..

El Toporo · Sep 29, 2020

After Microsoft showed truly incredible BC I'm more interested to see how these games perform.

Chaystic · Sep 29, 2020

Zhao_Yun said:
You have to have error messages prepared for all eventualities. This means that it doesn't tell us anything about how many PS4 games are potentially affected by it.

Exactly.

Musubi · Sep 29, 2020

Probably older titles that won't work right away. Anything from this year or last year I suspect will work for sure.

Uzupedro · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

But this tag is for this 1%, what is your point?

Deleted member 24021 · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

That's meant for the 1% of games that don't work on PS5.

Lozlink · Sep 29, 2020

Oh please lord, give me bloodborne boosted

Brohan · Sep 29, 2020

I really hope that the way family sharing currently works isn't changed. Currently you can share games with another account by making that account primary on your system. And this includes online games. Would suck if it now only works when offline.

Soriku · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

???

KiDdYoNe · Sep 29, 2020

Primary System is indeed a thing for PS5.
October 4th can't come soon enough.

Jiggy · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

...wouldn't that just apply to the 1% that doesn't work?

Transistor · Sep 29, 2020

Guys, are we sure about that 99% thing? I don't remember them saying it.

;)

Lord Fanny · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

I mean, you have to have some kind of message for the 1% that ends up not being playable. Can't just have the PS5 explode or some shit

DarkVaber32 · Sep 29, 2020

As others already pointed out, i personally believe that almost all PS4 games will be playable on the PS5. Those error messages are most likely for the minority of games that won't work at launch.

everybody_lies · Sep 29, 2020

Zhao_Yun said:
You have to have error messages prepared for all eventualities.

Not necessarily, they could just write "something went wrong :(" and leave it to the user to figure it out.

Deleted member 43552 · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

lol. This forum is better than any standup act sometimes.

fontguy · Sep 29, 2020

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

This makes it sound like they are in fact whitelisting games.

bsigg · Sep 29, 2020

Lozlink said:
Oh please lord, give me bloodborne boosted

Bloodborne needs a massive patch to change the way frames are displayed. Boosting it won't push it past the limits and issues that are part of the code.

NewDust · Sep 29, 2020

Transistor said:
Guys, are we sure about that 99% thing? I don't remember them saying it.

;)

In before people go "well he didn't specify WHEN!"

Jedi2016 · Sep 29, 2020

As if this is really going to change anyone's mind, please.

TechnicPuppet · Sep 29, 2020

How many is 1%. 20 games or something. This means even they ones they are still trying to get working.

gabdeg · Sep 29, 2020

Hope boost mode can take full advantage of the resources this time around.

The Pet of the Month · Sep 29, 2020

If Ace Combat 5 doesn't work ill go nuclear.

SpokkX · Sep 29, 2020

Kyolux said:
Nah, it's just to have something to show for the 1% that's not working at the moment.

yeah thats it

thats surely it

99% will be playable.... strangely sony left out WHEN

must be a mistake.. right? Surely

Tribal24 · Sep 29, 2020

What if "Takedowns", are you make your own challenges for friends to compete in like speed runs!

Pai Pai Master · Sep 29, 2020

Dphex said:
Oh wow, that train of concern surrounding the PS5 keeps rolling...

"This PS4 game isn't supported with your PS5's current system software. We're continuing to make more PS4 games playable on PS5. Update your PS5, and then try playing the game."

Jimbo: 99% of all PS4 games run on the PS5

PS5 will be ‘99 percent’ backward compatible with PS4 games

PS4 games could give you something to play as the PS5 lineup fills out.

www.theverge.com

so much for "i´ve sold my PS4 already!"...there will be some rude awakenings i can already see it

man, this rollout keeps getting worse by the day...

That is a very positive thought, i appreciate it..

There are almost 3000 games on PS4. 1% of that would still be around 30 games, probably more than 1% of those at launch may have issues. Do you expect them to just not have an error message for the potential 30+ rare instances where a game isn't compatible at launch? They have to have something even if its a small number of games.

Fisty · Sep 29, 2020

Inb4 "why isn't Sony telling us this??"

NewDust · Sep 29, 2020

Pai Pai Master said:
There are almost 3000 games on PS4. 1% of that would still be around 300 games. Do you expect them to just not have an error message for the potential ~300 rare instances where a game isn't compatible at launch?

Maths is hard, lol

DieH@rd · Sep 29, 2020

I'll give it 2 more pages until someone calls Jimbo a liar.

Neoxon · Sep 29, 2020

Richter1887 said:
We already know that 99% of the games will work. That message is probably for the 1% games that don't work (maybe some games that need additional hardware?)

I like that they are talking about the haptics. That means some PS4 games will get support which is great.

Basically this

Chettlar · Sep 29, 2020

What I want to know is if 99% run with PS5 boost mode like on PS4 Pro.

Going to be pretty disappointed if it's less than that.

And I really want titles like Sekiro, Dark Souls 3, and FFXV to run at 60 fps.

bitcloudrzr · Sep 29, 2020

The Pet of the Month said:
If Ace Combat 5 doesn't work ill go nuclear.

PJV3 · Sep 29, 2020

Soriku said:
???

lol, it wasn't just me then.

Dashful · Sep 29, 2020

Pai Pai Master said:
There are almost 3000 games on PS4. 1% of that would still be around 300 games. Do you expect them to just not have an error message for the potential ~300 rare instances where a game isn't compatible at launch?

1% of 3000 (it's above 4000 actually) is 30. Not 300. ;)

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