The vast majority of Republicans dont care about policy at the end of the day. Headlines like these just make them go "thats my senator" then they tune out again
Ugh... yeah of course, that sure adds up. I'm so so tired
Oh fucking wow. They really did.
This is some revisionist shit. Goddamn.
Actually this is considerable gaslighting.
I believe the parliamentarian technically did rule on it.
If you want to go into the procedural details the amendment was first proposed by Tuberville. Patty Murray raised a point of order that the amendment wasn’t budget-oriented. Tuberville in response asked for a vote to waive the budgetary requirement, which required 60 votes. That vote was the 49-50 result and the requirement wasn’t waived. Then the chair, I believe under the advice of the parliamentarian, sustained Murray’s point of order and ruled it non-budgetary.
The $15 was part of the House bill and not an amendment so the parliamentarian ruled on that well before the amendments session and I believe did so again when Bernie introduced an amendment and Republicans raised a point of order.
The kind of boomers that think the Parliamentarian is good are the same types of people who think there's some sort of debate to be had over transgender rights.
I meant it would have been nice if they’d ruled it before everyone had to vote to kill it off before it came up.
I can’t imagine it’s a very nice thing to watch for transgender people.
A Republican introduced the amendment during the vote-a-rama. It didn’t exist before he introduced it, so how can she rule on something that doesn’t exist? Technically the vote that took place wasn’t for or against the amendment, it was whether to waive the budgetary requirement and allow the amendment itself to be voted on.
Don't they or someone working for them sit in the Senate and can recommend they just shoot this stuff down? Senators can just bring up troll right wing culture war amendments?
You can bring up any amendment during the process, there is no screening process. Members can raise points of order (like objections in court) if they believe something is not following the established rules and request the chair make a ruling. In this case the rule in question is this bill is a budget bill and amendments must also be related to the budget. The parliamentarian or a member of her staff sits right in front and below the presiding officer during the senate session and advises them on rules and procedure in real time. Many times you can hear them in the background tell the chair exactly what to say before the chair says it on the mic.
Ok so they probably could have said to the presiding officer hey this amendment is a bunch of bullshit just get rid of it.
Patty Murray raised the point of order and Tuberville motioned to waive the rule and asked for a vote. You can waive a rule with 60 votes. The motion to waive the rule is what the 49-50 vote was for. Since it failed, it was the only vote related to the amendment.
"It's okay that he votes transphobic as long as he votes correctly when it matters" is the most backhanded dismissal of trans rights I have seen in a while. And staff can't even ban the profilic poster saying that shit permanently. Figures. As usual, I feel sorry for trans Era.
User banned (2 weeks): History of antagonizing members and staff. If you have a concern about a ban, open a ticket. Multiple tickets were submitted about the ban in question and it was revisited accordingly.
Gotta love the stealth edit on the ban too, from:
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Whitewashing this ban is not a good look, but unfortunately completely unsurprising
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The ban message didn't say he was being racist, it said he was excusing racism
I'm waiting on a ticket for an answer to this. I used the "proper channels", waiting to see how it pays off.
Just a reminder the community feedback thread can be used to constructively provide feedback to staff. Should any of you want to.
Honestly I'm completely done even contemplating the idea of opening any thread on this forum regarding anything trans related after I post this.
Don't care at this point, if I posted that I'd be 100% gone for good without the whitewashing. Giving someone basically being openly transphobic a slap on the wrist for it is fucking pathetic, someone who essentially said trans people don't matter whatsoever.
Don't care at this point, if I posted that I'd be 100% gone for good without the whitewashing. Giving someone basically being openly transphobic a slap on the wrist for it is fucking pathetic, someone who essentially said trans people don't matter whatsoever.
Just make sure you don't give any feedback on any specific ban, or say anyone's name, or they'll threadban you forever.
There was a response.
Also, the ban message has been changed again (somewhat reverted) and the duration of the ban has been extended. You can check the message in his post to see the change.