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Rean

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,329
Tier lists have always been funny to me. 99% aren't going to play at the level where it really matters. Just play and have fun with the characters that click with you. There are world class players in every fighting game in history that play as "low tier" characters and still body almost everyone. Haven't watched the video but I already know I'm going to agree with him.
there is definitely a difference on how easy you can get your wins.
i play kitana and frost, and with kitana matches go like, 50% easier than with frost. just due to options she has available that frost does not
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
23,611
Tier lists have always been funny to me. 99% aren't going to play at the level where it really matters. Just play and have fun with the characters that click with you. There are world class players in every fighting game in history that play as "low tier" characters and still body almost everyone. Haven't watched the video but I already know I'm going to agree with him.

That's pretty much his take in a nutshell.
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,886
Columbia, SC


Preach Max, Preach. Max is so dead on with this video. People's obsession with Tier lists in fighting game communities ESPECIALLY with brand new games like MK11 is just so eyerolling.


Yep. The lists are basically useless to the overwhelming majority of the playerbase. They matter to the small subset of players that are playing the game at the highest possible level at the time. They aren't generating these lists with people who just pick scorpion or sub just wanna play the game by spamming slide and ice ball all day. They're developed with the idea that the subset of players they're pulling data from are using all known available tools and strategies with their respective characters. In other words, not scrubs like myself. Its just probability based on data at the end of the day and player ability dramatically outweighs that.
 

RecRoulette

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,044
I keep thinking that I need to stop checking the Towers of Time. Then of course a tower with a brutality I don't have (Kotal Khan) comes up at 2am. Feeding the habit lol
 

Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
17,547
Learning Raiden is loads of fun. Way more complex than Baraka, even if he's not as easy to win with. I especially love how you can use a teleport mid combo to switch sides.
 

Spacejaws

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,808
Scotland
Sooo I've been grinding and finally crafted Shinocks amulet, got into the Kytinn Hive and...seriously? There's bugger all here. A few chests and a scorpion lantern. Seem like a pretty lackluster end to the kyrpt am I missing something?
 

LiK

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,077
Rangchu won a tourney with Panda in Tekken 7 this year. If you're good, you can do anything with a "low tier" character.
 

Aske

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,577
Canadia

Kongrats!!! xD

It really irks me when playing a match online, the person wins a close match and doesn't rematch. I can understand if they completely dismantle me to move onto someone that can challenge them. But not offering a rematch on a close win? That's just chickenshit

Don't let it get to you. It's just videogames. If someone gets salty and wants to take their ball and go home, so be it, you know? I've been pretty lucky with randoms so far though. At least, I haven't felt dick-vibes penetrating the chillness of my living room.

According to Tyler on Twitter, the gear dupe bug should be fixed in the next patch. Finally I can go wild in the Krypt.

Hope they have some other reward tweaks too.

I'm excited by the prospect of a sweet patch, but don't be afraid to go nuts in the Krypt as is. I've opened every chest once, and dumped around 20 000 000 into the shrine. Only dupes I've received were from towers, where the game thinks it's giving me something I don't already have because I've leveled it up.

Isn't bicycle kick one of his default moves? If it applies to default moves too then it definitely has to be a glitch.

The crushing blow thing is absolutely a glitch, and plenty of default moves don't register. I desperatly hope it gets fixed (or they remove the character tower requirements) because that's definitely the thing that bugs me most about the game right now. Aside from not having maskless Skarlet and Sub-Zero, obv.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,647
I also wish I could change the face buttons in the kombo list to 1,2,3,4.

The buttons on the Switch being flipped from the Xbox confuses me sometimes. But giving it the universal numbers that fighting fans know instead of face buttons make more sense to me.
 

DWarriorSN

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,133
PA
Rangchu won a tourney with Panda in Tekken 7 this year. If you're good, you can do anything with a "low tier" character.
Every time i read something like this i go "No shit"

Like of course if you're good you can do well with a lower tier character but that doesnt mean that other characters cant be better than them and that it's all user dependent.

Yeah Rangchu won with Panda but are we gonna ignore the history of other higher tier characters winning in T7 or any fighting game? Or pros that have dropped their "main" because it wasnt worth it and switched to another better character like with Honeybee?

That aside i also think T7 is way better balanced than MK11 will ever be so i dont even think the comparison is fair.

The lower tier characters in this game honestly make no sense to me.

Why the hell would you ever pick someone like Kotal or D'vorah over Sonya or Erron or Geras, all those characters have almost everything Kotal has but better and its not even a discussion.

Yeah people shouldn't be acting like a tier list is the be all end all but let's not act like it wouldnt be easier to succeed with a top character assuming you understand the game.
 

Dog

Cat
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,072
Trying out Erron Black, never used him much in X. Can see why he's a problem, he has everything in one variation.
 

Dullahan

Always bets on black
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,410
THE GODS HAVE SHOWERED ME WITH THEIR GLORIOUS LIGHT. I HAVE OBTAINED ENLIGHTENMENT!

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I would like to thank God, Jesus, Buddha, Cetrion and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
 
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Gutsfree

Self-requested ban
Banned
Jun 1, 2018
966
Been on vacation for over a week after I felt like I somehow managed to get worse before I left. I think its the perfect time to switch to Sub-Zero from Kotal Kahn. I think I'll try Thin Ice though. I'm Sure Dead of Winter is probably better but the lack of moves is kind of boring.
 

LiK

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,077
Every time i read something like this i go "No shit"

Like of course if you're good you can do well with a lower tier character but that doesnt mean that other characters cant be better than them and that it's all user dependent.

Yeah Rangchu won with Panda but are we gonna ignore the history of other higher tier characters winning in T7 or any fighting game? Or pros that have dropped their "main" because it wasnt worth it and switched to another better character like with Honeybee?

That aside i also think T7 is way better balanced than MK11 will ever be so i dont even think the comparison is fair.

The lower tier characters in this game honestly make no sense to me.

Why the hell would you ever pick someone like Kotal or D'vorah over Sonya or Erron or Geras, all those characters have almost everything Kotal has but better and its not even a discussion.

Yeah people shouldn't be acting like a tier list is the be all end all but let's not act like it wouldnt be easier to succeed with a top character assuming you understand the game.

You pretty much stated what everything Max talked about. Every character is viable but lower tier ones just require more work and effort to win. Obviously, Dan is the best character in SF.
 

LiK

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,077
AI BATTLES HERE I COME WITH MY KILLERS

sadly, i can only do 5 a night and no one wants to fight my team of killers.
 

Gutsfree

Self-requested ban
Banned
Jun 1, 2018
966
AI BATTLES HERE I COME WITH MY KILLERS

sadly, i can only do 5 a night and no one wants to fight my team of killers.
I've just made my team mediocre and seem to get plenty of defense battles. I don't usually win but its nice for getting augments at least instead of nothing and I do still get the occasional one.
 

LiK

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,077
I've just made my team mediocre and seem to get plenty of defense battles. I don't usually win but its nice for getting augments at least instead of nothing and I do still get the occasional one.

Yea, was thinking I just make a bunch of losers for the augments at least. I'll see if I can find some good behaviors for the less used characters.
 

Gutsfree

Self-requested ban
Banned
Jun 1, 2018
966
Yea, was thinking I just make a bunch of losers for the augments at least. I'll see if I can find some good behaviors for the less used characters.
most of my team sucks but I've had a lot of surprise wins with Shao Kahn. He's like a surprise killer as long as its not against Noob or Sonya. I throw him at the end of my team.
 

RecLib

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,365
I have a lot of trouble doing skarlet's blood splatter (Back forward 3) on demand as part of kombos. I don't have a problem with similar moves on other characters but for some reason I just mess it up all the time here. Its pretty important for her corner combos too so its a bit frustrating dropping them all the time.
 

Yog-Sothoth

Member
Oct 1, 2018
3,225
Already tired of facing Scorpions online...like in every MK lol

It's not only that there are so many of them, I find his fighting style so unappealing for some reason.

I'd rather fight Ronya.
 

Aske

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,577
Canadia
THE GODS HAVE SHOWERED ME WITH THEIR GLORIOUS LIGHT. I HAVE OBTAINED ENLIGHTENMENT!

I would like to thank God, Jesus, Buddha, Cetrion and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Vicarious joygasm! I've dropped so many kombat beans into that shrine, I'm sure I'm getting close.

Speaking of, I love how they were like "okay, a new species of Outworlder. They're greedy, and have greed shrines. How can we make them unlike any other race in MK? Oh, more goddamn arms."

Maybe in the next game, we'll get a many-armed race with little bone arms that shoot out of their normal arms.

I've got a team of jobbers and I still don't get any defensive fights

I seem to get all my defensive fights every day. PS4. Not sure why - my team's not that attractive. Kitana, Sonya, Noob. I think opening with Kitana might be my honeypot. I even get wins now and again. Got two out of five yesterday, believe it or not.


I rewatched MK Legacy last night. Really is a fantastic mini series, and I forgot there was supposed to be another season to finish the story. Hearing Scorpion yell GET OVER HERE in Japanese is beyond awesome, and season 2 is essentially porn for Bi Han lovers/Kuai Liang haters like my very own self. Really fun to see their spin on Liu Kang and Kung Lao, and Casper Van Dien as Johnny Cage is pure joy.
 

Xeteh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,386
Just reached Kytinn Hive in the Krypt and holy shit it's so creepy. :/
But i like it.

You probably have a ton of items that prevent you from being attacked in the Krypt, they're useful in there because those spiders just constantly respawn and stand behind you for you to be done opening the chest.