He specifically said
They're lootboxes in everything but name so him saying "or anything like that" then yeah, they're lootboxes.
Him saying it's an "industry direction rather than a fighting game or MK direction" says a lot.
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Mortal Kombat 11 - Review Thread
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Him saying it's an "industry direction rather than a fighting game or MK direction" says a lot.
the gambling is also there, you can donate Koins to a statue that spits out an item as a "prize". it is a straight up slot machine. for people with addiction problems, the Krypt is for sure something...lootboxes en masse and on top a slot machine.
the Krypt is a lootbox paradise, you earn Koins to spent in the Krypt on hundreds of boxes. it is the same as getting lootboxes directly, just with a middleman step in between...
Yeah, just checked. Augments don't seem to do anything in online on Kasual. I assume the same is true for Ranked.
They do touch Local play, Towers of Time, and Klassic Towers, as I mentioned before. Don't see an option to turn Augments off for Local play. I assume AI Battle uses them.
Tournament only allows the Default Kompetitive Variations.
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They Krypt is full of loot boxes (i.e. random rewards). You can't pay for them directly, but WB/NRS give you the ability to bypass those and get the items you hoped would be in there for real money if you get frustrated.
So "no paid loot boxes" may be a technically correct claim, but it's a very disingenuous one when the same principles and psychology are potentially at play and is designed to drive you toward microtransactions.
Basically, any time there are random rewards with sort sort of secondary option to pay for those rewards or bypass the randomness, it opens of the door for the same sort of psychological manipulation.
You're arguing semantics here. My point was that people don't care enough and that they will ignore it if it doesnt' affect them enough, and you literally said that in your own words "the good outweights the bad for me.".
The issue is there, staring us blankly in the face. It's a scummy, insidious, anti-consumer issue that permeates far too much of this industry. And yet people support games that contain these things because, as you said, "the good outweights the bad".
This is not an attack on people like you or an attempt to shame anyone, it's the reality of the situation. People will continue to prop up these issues because they're not affected enough.
Me not buying it day 1 is almost certainly going to have 0 effect, the game is going to sell well because the core game is apparently fantastic. It's a shame that there's no real solution to this, it's unrealistic to expect those who don't care enough/aren't affected to keep their wallets closed. And buying the game and ignoring the MTX and issues will still give the game exposure to the people around you, the chatter you help generate online, which brings more people in to be exposed to the system in question.
We can only hope the reviews will be enough to force their hand, this game looks like it deserves higher. Perhaps they had their sites on a specific MC score and will take action based on that alone, but it's probably more likely they won't.
Until they do or until the game goes on sale with a huge discount and I can buy it and play the story and just ignore the Tower mode, I'm not buying it. And i was set to buy it day 1.
Yep, it's lootboxes lol. They can call them "Krypts", "Kaskets, "Kombat Kores", "Mortal Mechanisms" or "Silver Souls" and it would be the same thing. The name and the conduit in which you get them doesn't matter.
Thanks for clarifying. And yeah that absolutely sucks for anyone who doesn't play online. It doesn't affect me too much because all I do is play ranked and do sets with my friends IRL so I can go to locals, but this system is a huge slap in the face to their casual audience IE the majority of the people who buy this game.
If you play ranked and don't care about the unlockables, then MK 11 should be great for you.
I think we should move away from "casual" being the language to denote SP players.
Many SP players would play a game like this just as often and put just as many hours into it as online players.
Any game has it's negatives, some more than others, and despite that, It can sell well, and at the same time be improved upon in the next installment If the critics are impactful enough. I think that even If the game sells well, they will re-think their practices If they get stormed by negative feedback. They already hurt themselves regardless, now people will be much more aware when they announce their next project, be It Injustice 3 or something else. We already saw devs paying the price for insisting on bad stuff.
This game just went from a day 1 purchase to a "maybe on sale". Or if there is another EA style last minute panic patch but I dont think there is enough outcry for that to happen.
Except you'll need to be on WiFi in order to use any of your unlockables or access Krypt or Towers of Time.
I think we should discuss whether the game would be better off just not having the content that is locked behind the grind to begin with. I'm assuming they can't afford to develop all of this content without their monetization/grind in place.
That is such fucking horseshit. Like seriously, what is the reason for this?
Probably so people don't use cheats to bypass the MTX/grind.
As probably already mentioned, was going to day one this but the reveal of the grindy aspects changed that. Will wait for a deep discount in maybe a year from now before jumping in.
I don't have time as a family man with a full time job to spend countless hours in the grind nor do I want to spend anymore money than the 100 I was originally planning to spend on the fighter's pack bundle.
I don't have time as a family man with a full time job to spend countless hours in the grind nor do I want to spend anymore money than the 100 I was originally planning to spend on the fighter's pack bundle.
From what I've been following for the past week since the first copies leaked, the game pings the servers for pretty much everything and validates your unlocks. If you're offline you can't even save custom variations. It's a GaaS title through and through for better or worse.
Doesn't look like that either. Premium store just unlocked and at least for now there is no way to buy time crystals directly and they only offer two skins per 24 hours. So you still have to grind for those time crystals in the game and the skins you like might not be available to buy for several months. And if you miss it on the day it is available just wait several months more until it is by chance available again...
They sold 11 million copies of the last MK game, so I dunno.
This is getting weirder and weirder.
It's like they're literally trying to make it take a year to unlock most everything.
Question: IGN put a video on their YT channel with all MK 11's cutscenes, they call it MK11 movie. Is that legal? Is that something a legitimate site should/can do?
That's real shit.
I've got a career myself that I spend time dedicated to so me grinding constantly probably isn't gonna happen as much as I'd need to. I've always enjoyed unlocking everything in Krypt so this might be the first MK that I never unlock everything.
This is pushing all my buttons. Sigh.
Honestly, they probably are less likely to get a copyright strike unlike any other Youtuber who does the same thing. Its a bit weird that they didn't wait until yesterday though.
"This can't be true"
Holy shit... yeah. That like... shouldn't be coming out of a major publication. Some random dude on YouTube? Sure... but IGN? Hahaha. Maaaan, NR or WB can't be pleased with that. It's like Atlus's fears come to life, lol.
It's the best MK has ever been, in my opinion.
Still there.
Honestly, no youtube video game related content has really been put to the test in the courts (as far as I'm aware anyway).
I will say though, I think it's one thing for individuals to do this after a game has released (or even for a big company like IGN to do this sometime after the game has released) but there is something... weird to me about an IGN posting the entire story the day before the game's release. One has to believe that WB/NR considered this when making their NDAs for this game but it's just weird that they would be okay with this considering that there's a probably not insignificant number of people buying this game purely for the story. I guess for anyone looking to boycott the game, IGN has your hookup for the story at least. lol
Wooo boy. What rarity level is that? Curious to see what the dollar to time crystal ratio is.
I'm personally nonplussed because it's mostly just cosmetics that are locked away behind this nonsense and while I agree it's grindy and annoying, it does nothing to mitigate the generous SP aspects that just about every other fighter from this generation has opted to largely ignore or regulate to the backburner.
That said, I certainly think feedback from the community is key here because NRS has a history of listening to their fanbase and I sincerely believe if enough of us voice our complaints, we may see some modifications sooner rather than later.
That said, I certainly think feedback from the community is key here because NRS has a history of listening to their fanbase and I sincerely believe if enough of us voice our complaints, we may see some modifications sooner rather than later.
Yeah it's one the best I've seen in any fighting game. It really helped me play better.
Since most people are too busy to answer you i will
Light years ahead of MKX. Stances feels like actual fighters instead of dancers , gameplay is solid based on footsies a little bit slower. Think like chess. Animation of fatalities are much better and executed better. Feel is great , stages are colorful af. designs are not overdesigned like MKX.