Most disappointing graphical downgrades of this gen?

Oct 25, 2017
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I was actually disappointed in Anthem. It does look great, but not as mind-blowing as I expected.

Red dead redemption 2 looks amazing but I was disappointed in the hair and people in general outside of the main cast.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 probably takes the cake for me though. It's a fun game but I can't stand the IQ.
 

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Was the Witcher 3 downgraded? Yes, but only because it had to run on consoles.

It was still an absolutely gorgeous game maxed out on PC and still is to this day and it came out in 2015.

Fucking lol at people who say the game looks ugly.
 
Jan 27, 2018
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I mean, if they wanted TW3 to run on Xbox One and PS4 they had to downgrade the game lol
Publishers and developers will always want "parity" between version, Metro Exodus is the only exception thanks to RTX.

And lol at calling TW3 ugly.

The Division was downgraded
Anthem as well
The biggest offender is Watch_Dogs
PS4 & XO could have done better & the PC version could have kept it's visuals, the time & effort to optimise & develop that original vision though for 3 platforms was just too much for CDPR, they really should have never shown that demo, really the final game looked amazing for 2015 anyway & there was no need to BS.
 

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Yet games like Horizon and RDR2 look much better than Witcher 3 on console.
Okay? Those games came out years later further down the console's life cycle.

edit: and as Crossing Eden pointed out in his post below: One an exclusive tailor made with a specific sku in mind and the other one of the most expensive games ever made by a much larger team.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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Witcher 3 is really ugly.

It can look great at times but overall its a very ugly looking game. the trees and foliage look absolutely disgusting under some lighting conditions.

the game needs the right amount of weather effects like wind, overcast conditions, massive vistas and lighting to make it look good or actually great, but i would say 50% of the time it looks fugly like in the gif posted in the OP. i played the game for almost a 100 hours so i know it doesnt always look that badthat but it does look like that a lot.

Anthem had the biggest downgrade though.
Then Dark Souls 2
Finally Watch Dogs.

Dishonarable mention goes to Naughty Dog trying to fool us into thinking the first Uncharted 4 teaser was realtime. the final game clearly doesnt look as good but their gameplay demos were on par with the final product so i cant be too harsh on them. their cutscenes came pretty close to that initial teaser.

EDIT: for comparison's sake.






Lighting and foliage quality looks a gen behind.
How about you compare it to games that came out around the same timeframe.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Witcher 3 is really ugly.

It can look great at times but overall its a very ugly looking game. the trees and foliage look absolutely disgusting under some lighting conditions.

the game needs the right amount of weather effects like wind, overcast conditions, massive vistas and lighting to make it look good or actually great, but i would say 50% of the time it looks fugly like in the gif posted in the OP. i played the game for almost a 100 hours so i know it doesnt always look that badthat but it does look like that a lot.

Anthem had the biggest downgrade though.
Then Dark Souls 2
Finally Watch Dogs.

Dishonarable mention goes to Naughty Dog trying to fool us into thinking the first Uncharted 4 teaser was realtime. the final game clearly doesnt look as good but their gameplay demos were on par with the final product so i cant be too harsh on them. their cutscenes came pretty close to that initial teaser.

EDIT: for comparison's sake.






Lighting and foliage quality looks a gen behind.
I for one cannot believe that the witcher 3 does not look as good as games that came out 2-3 years after it's release. One an exclusive tailor made with a specific sku in mind and the other one of the most expensive games ever made by a much larger team.

So because it looks great it's not a downgrade anymore?
It is insanely difficult to be annoyed by graphical changes when the dev still released one of the best looking games of all time.

How about you compare it to games that came out around the same timeframe.
Inb4 screenshots of 2014-15 games with much smaller maps than the witcher 3 are posted.
 
Jan 28, 2018
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Yet games like Horizon and RDR2 look much better than Witcher 3 on console.
A 2017 game developed for one platform looks better than a 2015 multiplatform game.

The most expensive 2018 game made thanks to over 1000 people and a high budget is better than a 2015 game.

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Nov 16, 2017
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Was the Witcher 3 downgraded? Yes, but only because it had to run on consoles.

It was still an absolutely gorgeous game maxed out on PC and still is to this day and it came out in 2015.

Fucking lol at people who say the game looks ugly.
Yeah no.
We have better looking OW games on consoles than TW3...even prettier than TW3 maxed out.
To be honest I was never impressed with TW visuals, not even on PC. The scale was really something else thats true but even games like AC Unity were already better looking games than TW when it released.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Hell even last gen, unless you are deliberately latching on to Sony's PR fuck up of calling a pre-rendered target as real time demonstration which they later rectified, it is hard to justify that claim.
Sorry to go off-topic, but that e3 2005 trailer was the king of all bullshot/downgrade/false-advertisement blunders. I said it mostly as a joke because its a very dead horse at this point, but it would absolutely be worth mentioning.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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Anthem for me. It was so obvious from the reveal trailer that the final game would NOT look like that. The biggest offender is the city at the beginning, which looked staggeringly good in the reveal, and looks like absolute ASS in the final game.
 
Feb 10, 2018
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Also i've come to expect visual changes from pre release gameplay to retail.
It's just the way game development is.

So don't expect cyberpunk to look like it does in the demo even on high spec pcs/ next gen, visual changes happen to nearly every game, cyberpunk won't be an exception.
 
Feb 28, 2019
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The Witcher III was a let down

An other one I don't see often mentioned (even if cross gen) is MGS V. Remember Kojima, each time we saw the game, said we were seeing the PS3 version. The PS4 version is not even close to each of the gameplay trailer / presentation.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Sorry to go off-topic, but that e3 2005 trailer was the king of all bullshot/downgrade/false-advertisement blunders. I said it mostly as a joke because its a very dead horse at this point, but it would absolutely be worth mentioning.
There is a NoClip documentary on the making of Horizon Zero Dawn where GG rep talks about the witnessing the blunder unfold as they helplessly watched from Netherlands during E3. Yea, it was a real screw up.
 
Mar 8, 2019
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I don't get how can The Division be a part of this list since to me it's one of the most beautiful game I've ever seen on PC. It's astonishingly good looking, even by today's standard. Of all the downgrades that were mentioned and represented via a picture comparison or gif comparison, this is the game that appears to me as the less downgraded of them all.


So because it looks great it's not a downgrade anymore? That's the most stupid thing I've heard today.
I don't think anyone is saying there was no downgrade when it comes to The Witcher 3. There really is a disparity between the old trailer and the game released. It's still a strikingly beautiful game though. But I'm pretty sure what the poster meant was that The Witcher 3 definitely isn't among the worst graphical downgrades of this gen. I'd say Dark Souls 2 and Watch Dogs would be the obvious answers for most.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'd take The Witcher 3's visual downgrade if it came with a combat upgrade.

Right now I'd say it's a toss-up between Watchdogs and Anthem. With Anthem people are more focussed with the gameplay and bugs so the visual downgrade isn't getting much talk, but it's huge.
 
Mar 6, 2018
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Was the Witcher 3 downgraded? Yes, but only because it had to run on consoles.
In reality I doubt it had much to do with consoles. As those leak docs show, the game was running on consoles back in 2014 using the old renderer.

No one outside of CDPR will know the actual reason. I suspect there was a PC and console renderer, sort of like what they had with TW2 on PC and 360. They ran out of time and had to cut the multiple renderers, and hastily merged what they had. They cut the far more interesting combat system, and a significant part of the story that was promised (the plague questline with Iorveth, Roche, Ves, Thaler, Emhyr, Gaunter, Triss ect) as well as all the WIld Hunt content (the infiltration quest, the end game battle in Novigrad and the dream sequences).

The game was never going to look like the 2013 reveal and VGX trailers, CDPR literally said that, because it was still running in TW2 engine, but it should have looked like the 2014 Gameplay demo. Nothing in that demo looked out of reach. Cyerpunk looks far more complex, and CDPR still claims it's coming to current gen.

Anyway, Witcher 3 for me. The downgrade was one thing. Lying about the downgrade, and claiming that you'd need DX12 and that the team had to focus on making 5000 doors work in Novigrad were the reasons is a slap in the face to anyone with a brain. Cutting Iorveth after literraly saying he was in the game is still something that pisses me off. Then lying about that as well for two years before admitting they screwed up.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I for one cannot believe that the witcher 3 does not look as good as games that came out 2-3 years after it's release. One an exclusive tailor made with a specific sku in mind and the other one of the most expensive games ever made by a much larger team.


It is insanely difficult to be annoyed by graphical changes when the dev still released one of the best looking games of all time.


Inb4 screenshots of 2014-15 games with much smaller maps than the witcher 3 are posted.
You would think as hardcore as this forum is , people would know how development process changes with each road block and year. You would also think context would be crucial to understanding these comparisons , thats just common sense
 
Oct 27, 2017
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There is a NoClip documentary on the making of Horizon Zero Dawn where GG rep talks about the witnessing the blunder unfold as they helplessly watched from Netherlands during E3. Yea, it was a real screw up.
Wow, I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
 
Sep 9, 2018
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I think Witcher 3 and Watch Dogs are both equally the worst downgrades graphically.

It's just that Witcher 3 didn't get shat on as much as Watch Dogs because the rest of the game was good at least.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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The worst was W_D without a doubt, the game not only looked worse but also you couldn'e replicate what was shown in the demo with the traffic light fuckery.

The most disappointing to me however was Zelda: BOTW :/



Still hurts. Witcher 3 is up there too.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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This would be a good argument if we hadn't actually seen the game pre-downgrade
They literally admitted that it would've been too expensive and time consuming for them to work with that version of the renderer. And no, it's highly likely that TW3 would've still been surpassed visually by games coming out years later. People always talk about the super quick glimpses we saw in those trailers, but never about the screenshots from when that time period:


It still wouldn't have looked as good as Horizon or Red Dead

You would think as hardcore as this forum is , people would know how development process changes with each road block and year. You would also think context would be crucial to understanding these comparisons , thats just common sense
Common sense tends to fly out the window when PRETTY PRETTY SHINY SHINY -----> PRETTY PRETTY SHINY.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Was the Witcher 3 downgraded? Yes, but only because it had to run on consoles.

It was still an absolutely gorgeous game maxed out on PC and still is to this day and it came out in 2015.

Fucking lol at people who say the game looks ugly.
I'm not saying it looks ugly, but the PC version doesn't run anything close to the gifs in the OP, sorry.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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How about you compare it to games that came out around the same timeframe.
I for one cannot believe that the witcher 3 does not look as good as games that came out 2-3 years after it's release.
Lets do exactly that.

AC Unity, came out 6 months BEFORE Witcher 3.



Batman Arkham Knight. Came out a month after Witcher 3.



Here is another game that came out a full year before Witcher 3.

 
Oct 25, 2017
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The most significant downgrades in no particular order:

The Witcher 3
Watch Dogs
Breath of the Wild
Anthem
The puddles of Spider-Man. :(
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They literally admitted that it would've been too expensive and time consuming for them to work with that version of the renderer. And no, it's highly likely that TW3 would've still been surpassed visually by games coming out years later. People always talk about the super quick glimpses we saw in those trailers, but never about the screenshots from when that time period:


It still wouldn't have looked as good as Horizon or Red Dead


Common sense tends to fly out the window when PRETTY PRETTY SHINY SHINY -----> PRETTY PRETTY SHINY
This is a really interesting screenshot. It reminds me way more of how TW2 looked than how TW3 ended up, with the excessive bloom and sharpening.

 
Oct 29, 2017
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Why are people defending Witcher 3 so hard? It's a great game, it looks good, it's heavy downgraded. These are all facts, what's there to argue?
When you say witcher 3 is an ugly game and had the worst downgrade and then you compare to 2017 Horizon zero down a Sony exclusive and 2018 most expensive game to date from most successful developer on the planet. You dont see how ridiculous that sound?