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Dec 8, 2017
117
Reading this made me feel physically ill. How absolutely oblivious some people are...and the deflection of " but but I kill men in it too" god.
 

Jecht

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,650
you're creating a strawman.

I said: "there's no reason on why you would be interested in content around violence against feminists ('read: women) unless you were predisposed to committing violence against women"

Just like nobody would be interested in playing Red Dead Redemption unless they wanted to emulate being an outlaw cowboy. Because you are dense to context, please understand that a reasonable person would not presume sociopathic tendencies from wanting to play as an 19th century outlaw.

And per your example, you would in fact be pretty fucked up in the head if you spend all day in any of the GTA's killing exclusively prostitutes for no damn reason. Just as if you went around killing exclusively black pedestrians for no damn reason. That's not fucking normal.

If you're on youtube and you are interested in gratifying yourself with content around exclusively harming feminists or women or black people or jewish people or gay people, you're fucked up in the head. You probably have sociopathic tendencies. And you're probably predisposed to violence tendencies against whatever group that you are subjecting yourself for viewing pleasure.

Nobody gives a damn if you shoot the woman in the game during that mission, nobody cares that Rockstar gives you the option to do so. But if you create multiple videos where you go out of your way to kill this NPC in game for no damn reason other than "hey look at me killing this FEMINIST", you are fucked up in the head. If you find yourself browsing YouTube and are interested in consuming content about the aforementioned, you are fucked up in the head.

100% this.
 

>__

Alt Account
Banned
Oct 28, 2018
474
If you're worried about signal boosting you should instead take issue with YT's bullshit algorithm that makes the video pop up if you even so much as watch a trailer or tips video.

Youtubes algorithm seems to be based around commonality. It "polls" a selection of vids to users of a certain base (lets say the topic is RDR2), and identifies which ones led to the most clicks within the group and thus recommends it some more. I also don't think the groups are set either: if there's a subset of RDR2 viewers that are fans of lets say hunting in video games, then it my recommend popular RDR2 hunting videos to that subset.

Basically, technically the algorithm isn't at fault: the vid is getting lots of clicks from each "poll" results in it spreading. I believe viewer time is also taken into account now.

I should say, I could be wrong in how it works as I haven't seen the actual algorithm, I don't believe they've made it public.
 

Kilic95

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,393
Chireiden
Nobody gives a damn if you shoot the woman in the game during that mission, nobody cares that Rockstar gives you the option to do so. But if you create multiple videos where you go out of your way to kill this NPC in game for no damn reason other than "hey look at me killing this FEMINIST", you are fucked up in the head. If you find yourself browsing YouTube and are interested in consuming content about the aforementioned, you are fucked up in the head.

PREACH
 

AnansiThePersona

Started a revolution but the mic was unplugged
Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,682
Just in case anyone was confused on if the people who campaigned for Shirrako to be reinstated are misogynistic or "believers of free speech".

UQNwIiy

Such trash. Imagine being this much of a misogynistic loser? Like.. the amount of hangups you must have about women to do all this? Get a fucking grip...
 

Trup1aya

Literally a train safety expert
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Oct 25, 2017
21,311
If you're worried about signal boosting you should instead take issue with YT's bullshit algorithm that makes the video pop up if you even so much as watch a trailer or tips video.

I do take issue with algorithm. But the algorithm didn't make the video, nor did it write and post the article promoting said video. Both of those things were done by humans.
 

Perzeval

Prophet of Truth
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,526
Sweden
Oh that's the dude.. I remember that fucking S logo, his vids showed up on my youtube with titles like "feeding a crocodile with a feminist". I also saw one of his clips featured on a "try not to laugh" RDR2 compilation where he just threw a molotov at her.
 

MagicDoogies

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,047
Honestly fuck the gaming outlets that reported this. It's sensationalist, doesn't fucking matter in a game where you can slap the shit out of everyone and now people who otherwise wouldn't of given two shits are now doing it to 'trigger' people.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,315
Honestly fuck the gaming outlets that reported this. It's sensationalist, doesn't fucking matter in a game where you can slap the shit out of everyone and now people who otherwise wouldn't of given two shits are now doing it to 'trigger' people.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GAME

IT'S ABOUT THE SEVERAL SEVERAL SEVERAL MISOGYNISTIC VIDEOS A MISOGYNIST MADE AND PUT ON YOUTUBE
 

Jessmo24

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
753
User Banned (Permanent): Misogyny, Arguing in bad faith, History of similar behaviour
Youtube closed a misogynist account, because he was spreading misogynistic ideas on his channel.

I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,055
Appalachia
Most frustrating part of these threads is when you think you've finally broken ground on a sub-topic and right when it starts to die down someone who hasn't read the thread pops in to start it all back up again
 

Deleted member 4037

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Oct 25, 2017
6,989
Honestly fuck the gaming outlets that reported this. It's sensationalist, doesn't fucking matter in a game where you can slap the shit out of everyone and now people who otherwise wouldn't of given two shits are now doing it to 'trigger' people.
No it doesnt, I dont think R* did anything wrong in this case. But making a video on killing a specific npc because they believe in an ideology (that is progressive) is disgusting, the channel should be banned

I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!
If you dont like people for wanting equality, yes you are being a misogynist. Trying to equate hookers to people wanting rights is not a good look either
 

Deepwater

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,349
I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!

Step 1: Proclaim stupid opinion
Step 2: Preemptively victimize yourself
Step 3: Double down and miss the point
 

Lulu

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
26,680
I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!
Yea you are and you should be banned from here. No place on this site for mysogynist
 

Tensuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
117
you're creating a strawman.

I said: "there's no reason on why you would be interested in content around violence against feminists ('read: women) unless you were predisposed to committing violence against women"

Just like nobody would be interested in playing Red Dead Redemption unless they wanted to emulate being an outlaw cowboy. Because you are dense to context, please understand that a reasonable person would not presume sociopathic tendencies from wanting to play as an 19th century outlaw.

And per your example, you would in fact be pretty fucked up in the head if you spend all day in any of the GTA's killing exclusively prostitutes for no damn reason. Just as if you went around killing exclusively black pedestrians for no damn reason. That's not fucking normal.

If you're on youtube and you are interested in gratifying yourself with content around exclusively harming feminists or women or black people or jewish people or gay people, you're fucked up in the head. You probably have sociopathic tendencies. And you're probably predisposed to violence tendencies against whatever group that you are subjecting yourself for viewing pleasure.

Nobody gives a damn if you shoot the woman in the game during that mission, nobody cares that Rockstar gives you the option to do so. But if you create multiple videos where you go out of your way to kill this NPC in game for no damn reason other than "hey look at me killing this FEMINIST", you are fucked up in the head. If you find yourself browsing YouTube and are interested in consuming content about the aforementioned, you are fucked up in the head.

While you mention context, you're still ignoring the context that these are fictional actions against fictional characters in a fictional world. You're right about wanting to *emulate* being an outlaw cowboy. But I don't have a predisposition to actually being a cowboy and committing crimes, do I? People don't play games strictly because they *want* to do those things *in real life*. Nobody played Burnout because they *wanted* to create a huge pileup crash in real life.

It's not normal to kill prostitutes or black people, not in real life. That would make you fucked up in the head. Wanting to do it in a video game? Where it's not real? No, that doesn't make you fucked up. Sorry. You're confusing real world morality with video game morality, which aren't the same thing.

It works the same way with consuming content. Some movies (like Saw or Hostel) can be called "torture porn". There are people that like those movies. Are they fucked up in the head? Do you think they're all predisposed to violence and secretly sociopaths? People that watch YouTube videos don't want to act out everything they see.

This is not a new accusation and it doesn't have any more merit now just because you feel strongly about the subject matter.
 

Deepwater

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,349
nobody is saying you're bad for driving around Vice City, Liberty City, or Los Santos and indiscriminately killing people.

You're probably a fucking weirdo if you go around looking to specifically kill prostitutes.

While you mention context, you're still ignoring the context that these are fictional actions against fictional characters in a fictional world. You're right about wanting to *emulate* being an outlaw cowboy. But I don't have a predisposition to actually being a cowboy and committing crimes, do I? People don't play games strictly because they *want* to do those things *in real life*. Nobody played Burnout because they *wanted* to create a huge pileup crash in real life.

It's not normal to kill prostitutes or black people, not in real life. That would make you fucked up in the head. Wanting to do it in a video game? Where it's not real? No, that doesn't make you fucked up. Sorry. You're confusing real world morality with video game morality, which aren't the same thing.

It works the same way with consuming content. Some movies (like Saw or Hostel) can be called "torture porn". There are people that like those movies. Are they fucked up in the head? Do you think they're all predisposed to violence and secretly sociopaths? People that watch YouTube videos don't want to act out everything they see.

This is not a new accusation and it doesn't have any more merit now just because you feel strongly about the subject matter.

You fail to grasp the importance of context so I hope that failure does not creep into other areas of your life where you might otherwise need critical thinking.
 

blitzblake

Banned
Jan 4, 2018
3,171
I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!
I mean, like anything, there are radicals that take it to the extreme (aka naked white women with body liberation messages written on their breasts in red lipstick). These people tend to smear the feminist movement as a group of radical crazies with ear rings made from used tampons or something. but the message is pretty simple; equality.

To be anti feminism is to be anti equality.

However judging by the rest of your post, you defs seem like a raging misogynist who deep down thinks he's gods gift to women and they should be lucky to have you.
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,055
Appalachia
It's not normal to kill prostitutes or black people, not in real life. That would make you fucked up in the head. Wanting to do it in a video game? Where it's not real? No, that doesn't make you fucked up. Sorry. You're confusing real world morality with video game morality, which aren't the same thing.
If you intentionally seek out black people and prostitutes, specifically because they are black and prostitutes, specifically to murder them, then yes you're fucked up.
 

psychowave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,655
It's not normal to kill prostitutes or black people, not in real life. That would make you fucked up in the head. Wanting to do it in a video game?
why would you want to specifically kill women and black people in a fictional setting

edit: to elaborate on this, i'm kind of weirded out by people who play these games and go around murdering NPCs, but i can see that maybe it's cathartic or a way to let out steam for some people. i'm not super comfortable with it, but okay. but when you go out of your way to find a specific type of people to kill? then yeah, you've got issues.
 
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Deleted member 4037

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's not normal to kill prostitutes or black people, not in real life. That would make you fucked up in the head. Wanting to do it in a video game? Where it's not real? No, that doesn't make you fucked up. Sorry. You're confusing real world morality with video game morality, which aren't the same thing.
If you are specifically seeking out a certain type of person to kill them, yes you are fucked up. You are going out of your way at this point
 

Deleted member 5596

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dont like feminists either. Am I a misogynist?
Should I be banned. If we are going to have a game industry where free speech and free expression is celebrated then we are going to need to lighten up. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I hate. And WE HAVE KILLED hookers in GTA for 20+ years can hookers get love!

1. Maybe not a misogynist, but it makes you a sexist.
2. This guy didn't make videos of "not liking feminists", he made videos of killing and abusing them in horrible ways. Is glorifying violence againts women.
3. Free speech/expression, dosn't shield you from negative opinions or reactions and certainly dosn't shield your accounts of privated owned sites.
4. The article dosn't blame the game because of it. So don't worry, your precious game is safe.
5. YOU have killed hookers in GTA, personally I never did. And yeah, that's was something that was brought and worth discussing maybe, but don't worry you still and will be able practice violence against women safely in your virtual world.
 

Jessmo24

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
753


1.So wait what ever happened to I might not agree with what you say but I'll fight for your right to say it?

2. Me disliking feminists has more to do with the methods in which they do things rather than rights being excluded. Am I all for women's rights? Yes. Do I believe there are double standards? Yes.

3. Are there any YouTube videos With GTA 5 hooker killing. I'm sure some exists. Which basically makes this a sensationalist article at best. A huge **** stirring exercise at its worst.
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,290
Youtubes algorithm seems to be based around commonality. It "polls" a selection of vids to users of a certain base (lets say the topic is RDR2), and identifies which ones led to the most clicks within the group and thus recommends it some more. I also don't think the groups are set either: if there's a subset of RDR2 viewers that are fans of lets say hunting in video games, then it my recommend popular RDR2 hunting videos to that subset.
See that's where you're wrong. The algorithm doesn't distinguish. It says "Oh you watched a RDR2 video, you probably want this video about killing feminists, just like you want videos of the ending."
 

ynthrepic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
633
1.So wait what ever happened to I might not agree with what you say but I'll fight for your right to say it?

2. Me disliking feminists has more to do with the methods in which they do things rather than rights being excluded. Am I all for women's rights? Yes. Do I believe there are double standards? Yes.

3. Are there any YouTube videos With GTA 5 hooker killing. I'm sure some exists. Which basically makes this a sensationalist article at best. A huge **** stirring exercise at its worst.

When you say "I don't like feminists" you just seem confused as to the meaning of the word. That or you have spent too long on certain parts of the internet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
828
Man, I must hang out with some of the most boring feminists ever. The worst they've done is engage in a series of lengthy, pleasant conversations with me where they explained to me their perspective and in return I actually kind of learnt something extremely valuable. Their methods, I tell you. It was unimaginable horror.
 

MOTHGOD

Avenger
Dec 8, 2017
1,016
Buttfuck Nowhere
So to be clear, the issue wasnt that he killed a feminist character in the game, but it was because he glorified it and shit on the feminist movement with his video titles and shit he said in the video?

If that is the case he deserves every shitty thing coming his way.