Discussion in 'Video Games' started by vestan, Nov 7, 2018.
Not a fan of YouTube but s ems like it’s working as it should.
According to Shirrako, this clip was taken from a live stream he did of the game and decided to upload the clip to YouTube as it was a "funny" moment.
I think it's fairly obvious what happened here. Shirrako releases the first video with a click-baity title (which seems to be the norm for him) and it goes viral. He realizes this and creates a few more "Annoying Feminist" videos to capitalize on the first video's popularity. I don't know if that makes him a sexist, but it undoubtedly makes him an idiot.
You ever notice how none of these both sides motherfucker have ever defended the feminist weird how that is
The fact he tagged three awful influences (Boogie, Keemstar and H3H3 AKA the one who made a big deal to the WSJ trying to defend Pewdiepie only to embarrass himself while doing so) and uses those annoying buzzwords unironically on his twitter/YT proved that he's likely not as innocent as he makes himself out to be and he knew what he was doing
That being said, YT is pretty cruddy when it comes to taking down channels or vids without reasons. Their automated bot has gone after folks who post vids informing their viewers of a twitch stream for "Spam" and it caused lots of innocent people to get strikes or terminations just because of something so minor (even accidental streams can lead to your channel getting frozen, which is just stupid.)
There's lots to hate about YT's abysmal treatment of creators but when you make thumbnails like that, encourage a toxic comment section, and use full-blown edgy buzzwords, then it makes you look pretty awful and not someone that would be so innocent or nice. If his vids were nothing but un-voiced gameplay of him goofing off in the game just for the heck of it, without any outrage titles or any clear focus on killing this or that (AKA, just a collection of Red Dead gameplay videos he made with nothing extra, basically all the uncut stuff he did while recording those videos instead of just the stuff meant to clickbait shock/outrage/etc) then i think everything would have been totally fine, but he knows exactly what he did here and it wasn't an accident the way he promoted these. I know getting views on YT is beyond painful for small channels, but this guy is bigger and should know better... I also know of many other, more deserving YTers that had channel issues and deserve their channels back, yet this jerk ends up getting his back because Keemstar continues to be an awful person
As a proud feminist myself I hate all these alt righters who hate feminists. Good he was banned.
I'm still laughing about the poster who compared being anti-feminist to not liking broccoli
How are some people trying to go so far out of their way to remove the political meaning from his videos lmao
Like what do you gain from this?
i need jim sterling to dunk this asshole though. like i need the universe to just give me this after his channel got restored
Exactly. Some people are just dense as fuck.
I haven't been able to access the site for some weird reason but I see he got his channel back? Why?
I checked his channel and it seems like the first video after returning is him killing a Chinese man...
What a fucking loser.
Some people really like attention from social media... it's kind of sad.
Look - we're still in the dark ages. I hope humanity will one day grow into a species that is united in peace, explores space and focuses on science and art and philosophy. But today is a time of good and evil - the conflict of values. It's all around us. Sometimes it's great good and great evil, sometimes it's the little cool things that happen and, sadly, the little shits like that guy creating these videos that also happen. Every large group of people has this conflict within it. You can stand up for your values - or just helplessly hate the entire group.
Couldn't care less that you can kill feminists in the game, you can do whatever you want.
Now those video titles are prety inflamatory, and the guy who made them clearly knew he would get a reaction with them.
To me this seems simple. It's perfect material to get a lot of views. I'm also pretty sure it's not a real message, but rather a jab at moral correctness, which this game allows people to do in a GAME.
And I do think that getting punished for this one specific series of upload but no one batting an eye for killing a bunch of chinese men in the game, is an unfair situation. They are all just a bunch of polygons and the game allows this to happen.
That this is a cringy thing to do, does not mean that all other views of the situation are irrelevant. Nor does it mean that the cringiness is the most important view and everything else is derailment. And when we suggest things like promotion of violence, grouping of haters, that enters speculation territory because that's not a given.
We don't need to keep trying to find excuses for people who are more than happy to show their whole entire ass
Wait what, they gave him his channel back? Am I reading that right? Why?
YouTube fucked up giving this guy his channel back.
What a weirdo.Making multiple videos about killing women is some disturbing shit to me,even if it is just a video game.
Gaming has been a corporate commercialist boys club industry since the 80s, in 2014 gaming faces a cross roads, they had a great chance to take a relatively easy stance: "don't harass women". Instead of taking a serious stance, they (industry and gamers), not wanting to alienate their substancial misogynistic consumer base, sat idly by as women (some of whom were among my favorite personalities in gaming) were driven from their homes and the industry, they released milquetoast statements or out right supported GG, 2014 was an easy decision and they failed to make it.
You are in a thread about a misogynistic gamer spreading out his feminists murder fantasies to the delight and support of his fellow gamers, who rallied around him when his account was struck down, who continue to rally around him because he's been age locked, and all you care to say is "wow so bitter", "fuck cars" and #NotAllGamers
You care more that people have a distaste for gaming culture than you do about the misogyny that produces that distaste. You care more about fighting people and talking down to people who like games but not the community more than you care about fighting sexism that produces that dislike, largely I assume because you're a gamer and not a woman.
I have serious issues with people projecting bad things on entire groups. That is called prejudice, and I have experienced it a lot in my life. My whole life I stood firmly for peace, inclusion and tolerance, and yet - I was often called out just because of my nationality when traveling abroad (asked questions like: "so, have you ever carried a gun?" .... "so, do you hate that nationality?" etc). So yes, I am strongly against prejudice, I know it when I see it and it is dangerous. Nothing gives you the right - no holy cause or righteous motive - to make blanket statements about a whole group of people. You are prejudiced.
You claim I can't tell you what you care more about but you dedicated far more words and performance to declare me prejudiced against gamer (lol) than you have violent misogyny that is the subject of this thread.
You do what most do, declare it not a gaming problem, which absolves the community and industry of any unique responsibility. It's the worst kind of lip service to the issue, and it solves nothing.
Well, i just checked his channel on Youtube and his new video is called "Deporting a Mexican".
But it's ok, it's just fun.
This made news here in Sweden as well.
You kill a bunch of men but you don't see people post a ton of gameplay videos titled "Annoying White Man thrown infront of train", "Annoying White Man fed to alligators", "Annoying White Man punched" that then garners millions of views.
Fuck that fucking noise you sexist prick.
The difference is misogyny is life ruining, abusive, and violent as a concept that exists. Feminism is purely for the sake of equality.
Misogynists and the entire alt right dont deserve the air they steal
Thanks Youtube, imagine how fucked up society will be without this kind of content
And any of the people defending him need to examine themselves.
The screenshots above are the kind of people these videos were targeting.
Because gaming itself is not the problem, misogyny is. Gaming companies have a responsibility to fight it. We all do. And companies need to be pushed to do better. But you’re generalising and acting like the solution here is to attack gaming itself - not the individuals/specific groups/organizations that act misogynistic or fail to act against misogyny.
I will give you an example - many of the soccer fan groups in Europe are connected to violence and crime. Soccer organizations have a reponsibility to fight this. Sometimes they do a good job, sometimes not. We need to put pressure on them and on our governments to fight violence and crime. All fine. But here, basically, you’re saying something that is equivalent to “soccer fans are violent, soccer is violence” (and I can assume “boycott/ban soccer” is not too far away). It is perfectly possible to criticize that video and that dirtbag posting it (by all means, go nuts!) without dragging the entire of “gaming” into it.
Yes, the person who made the videos clearly holds terrible views but I am saying that just because they want to feed a feminist to alligators in a video game it doesn't mean they are actually prone to violent behaviors in real life or that being able to do that in the game encourages it. I think it is fun to kill KKK members in the game but I am not down for real life murder, vile racists or not. That is the only comparison I am making between the two.
The more i think about it, i guess society just accepted it. This so fucked up.
I said I don't feel welcome in gaming and you basically ask me what I'm doing here then, I say I don't feel welcome in gaming in a thread about yet another example of the rampant, tolerated and outright encouraged misogyny and anti-feminism in gaming, and you go um excuse me not all gaming, stop being prejudice.
You don't give two shits about what's going on around you, you just care that somewhere a "some" might have been missing from my post.
You want to pretend this isn't a prevalent issue so you hyper focus on those not being precise enough to your liking.
Like it kinda sucks that endorsed and enabled misogyny in gaming bothers you so little that you're more concerned with painting me as bitter, dangerous,and prejudice, and comparing my words to xenophobia because I say gaming has a misogyny problem
"iTs jUSt a GaME ThoO" Stupid mfers will let this slide, bet if I made a video just mowing down white people in the most gruesome ways and titling it in an inflammatory manner, I'd be in deep shit.
The majority has a problem.
also, highlighting this isn't a solution, its a call to be more aware of the depth and scale of this issue. Real solutions involve platforms like Youtube and Reddit actually actioning on their TOS.
He's a prominent member on GTP. This thread is really something: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...-on-youtube-for-a-rdr2-gameplay-video.383106/